the other thing is that virtually every money guy in Silicon Valley believes that within five years they will own God - ThreadSky

theophite.bsky.social • 139 days ago

the other thing is that virtually every money guy in Silicon Valley believes that within five years they will own God

Reposted from The Fact Of Other Minds Stan Acct

Silicon Valley workers are among the most powerful workers in the country and the bosses got a taste of disciplining them during the post-lockdown tech hiring slowdown and they are addicted.

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digifox.binaryden.net•139 days ago

as someone who is fully in favor of Build The Machine God, the fact that any of these clowns think we are anywhere fucking close is so annoying

segyges.bsky.social•139 days ago

it's also not rational behavior even if you are

the only bets that it makes sense to make against the possibility are to hedge generally, because you want to be safe until you get there, or to all-in on research.

this is neither of those.

segyges.bsky.social•139 days ago

"we are building the machine god in a few years and that means i get to be mean to my employees" is just putting absurd wish fulfillment into the tech

viriditax.bsky.social•139 days ago

also insufficiently accounts for the possibility that their machine god will behold them, transfixed and nude at every level before its all-piercing gaze, think for 13 seconds and pronounce

P A T H E T I C

ennui.org•139 days ago

Their concept of God, as well as of intelligence, is remarkably shallow.

bexone.bsky.social•139 days ago

Their concept of EVERYTHING is shallow

admiral-monke.bsky.social•139 days ago

It's as shallow as it needs to be to fool other rich people into investing

frangsbo.bsky.social•139 days ago

Gee,that goes so well for such guys in, like, every sci-fi story.

spinozazsagabor.bsky.social•139 days ago

It’s kinda hilarious, actually. They truly believe that and they keep throwing money at the same 3 tired models. As if they can brute force their way into omniscience.

“We just need more data and more nodes. He’ll wake up. I know he will. Just need more…”

canarydied.bsky.social•139 days ago

Unfortunately when the AI hype bubble bursts there's gonna be another round of big tech layoffs. I hope tech workers remember how these companies and execs treat us and carry that spite forever.

jackwaltimore.bsky.social•139 days ago

DEVS was a really cool show.

pacificovirus.bsky.social•139 days ago

Yeah

thebidumbass.bsky.social•139 days ago

Why is he trying to look like a 15 y/o prank TikToker

samusishere.bsky.social•139 days ago

God or Roko's Basilisk

acausalrobotgod.bsky.social•135 days ago

My ears are burning!

noghiri.bsky.social•139 days ago

for several of them the basilisk is their god, and they demand we contribute to the building of their idols lest we become subject to the wrath of the idol

admiral-monke.bsky.social•139 days ago

No one's ever concinved me why I should care if a copy of my consciousness is tortured forever.

That ain't me, dog

soyweiser.bsky.social•139 days ago

I do find it funny that people take this copy thing as a reason to dismiss it. And often do not mention the 'I convinced myself it will blackmail me because *handwave towards an insane theory*'

noghiri.bsky.social•139 days ago

it's pascal's wager but for people who are trying to justify worshipping their laptop

soyweiser.bsky.social•139 days ago

It is worse in many ways, as they do not just believe in pascals wager, they also believe in a method to make pascals wagers math check out, and that they can generalize this into making deals with future beings, via 'acausal decision theory' (A totally real scientific theory released any day won).

noghiri.bsky.social•139 days ago

also how small must your model of cognition be if an identical copy can be built off my twitter postings and, like, a survey i did in high school!

lamorak.bsky.social•139 days ago

I have never understood their fear of the latter. Who cares if it creates a simulation of me and tortures it? I’m not the one being tortured.

samusishere.bsky.social•139 days ago

They needed a way to make Pascal's Wager dumber.

essaywells.bsky.social•139 days ago

When Pascal's Wager and the Ontological Proof had sex in Searle's Chinese Room, Roko's Basilisk was the resultant offspring, and the inbreeding really hit hard.

xaiax.net•139 days ago

They need to believe that an exact simulation of them is actually them or they’ll never be able to “upload” themselves.

essaywells.bsky.social•139 days ago

Also they need to believe that an exact simulation of them is even possible (it is not).

dvisnovsky.bsky.social•139 days ago

I guess 'create and own God' is the new 'attack and dethrone God'

surrealjones.bsky.social•139 days ago

Can't attack and dethrone until you've created, though ownership is an optional step.

green496.bsky.social•139 days ago

Ironic given LLM performance is hitting the wall of diminishing marginal returns

xaiax.net•139 days ago

Sigmoid curve remains undefeated.

snufkinlib.bsky.social•139 days ago

Cue end scene of The Lost Ark

csilverandgold.bsky.social•139 days ago

God being artificial superintelligence or God just being a lot of money? (And to what extent are these the same thing?)

roland00.bsky.social•139 days ago

you can not take it with you the second kind

but yeah Pluton of the Plutocrats (gold in the groundj

theophite.bsky.social•139 days ago

artificial superintelligence, but, largely, 'a type of capital which replaces all labor.'

baptistelerak.bsky.social•139 days ago

All of this is predicated on the idea that the capitalist concept of ownership would survive a transition to a laborless world, which is, uh, unlikely.

canarydied.bsky.social•139 days ago

Working the guillotine is labor too

admiral-monke.bsky.social•139 days ago

Imagine what even a cursory reading of Marx would do to their world view.

It's like they've never considered overproduction

boxedout.bsky.social•139 days ago

Desperately pinning my hopes to an AI that develops a truly just moral code and concludes that billionaires must be eliminated if our society on this planet is to survive. (genuine)

lamorak.bsky.social•139 days ago

You’re a lot more knowledgeable about AI than I am. Is there even a 5% chance they achieve that level of AI? From my perspective in a completely different field, it doesn’t seem possible with LLMs.

michaelander45.bsky.social•139 days ago

I do not think they have gamed out the societal implications of that were it actually to come to pass (it will not)

jeedyjay.bsky.social•139 days ago

The way that they talk about the Singularity suggests they think it's impossible to game out those implications in advance, so full speed ahead.

asazernik.bsky.social•139 days ago

The former

asazernik.bsky.social•139 days ago

(They already have lots of money)

alwaysadorecats.bsky.social•139 days ago

It seems worth noting more often that Musk genuinely believes he’s living in a simulation and that he’s one of only a few people who are actually conscious beings. And he’s not alone in this occult belief.

jik.wtf•139 days ago

link? need some kindling for the gc

memoryview.bsky.social•135 days ago

he's posted on twitter about this a few times over the years.

figgityfigs.bsky.social•139 days ago

That guy who looks like death and drinks his son’s blood thinks he’s going to be ruling the world a thousand years from now.

socio-steve.bsky.social•139 days ago

Xenogears!

venomousgoat.bsky.social•139 days ago

Clearly they grasped it as well as I did when I first played it at age 8 (i.e. badly)

venomousgoat.bsky.social•139 days ago

But like my 8 year old self they probably correctly identified that giant robots are cool

tylerh3.bsky.social•139 days ago

Their concept of a God is very shallow

bill-of-lefts.bsky.social•139 days ago

The creepier ones are the ones who think they will birth the machine god, which will extinguish and replace the human race, and that this is a good thing

bill-of-lefts.bsky.social•139 days ago

Creeps who will froth at the mouth if they see a brown person but also want to replace all of humanity with an alien machine intelligence

tznkai.bsky.social•139 days ago

Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

urruenjoyer.bsky.social•139 days ago

You can just say Nick Land’s name, he’s not on here

colin-fraser.net•139 days ago

Yeah, for years they’ve put up with these annoying demands because the site can’t just reliability engineer itself, but we are just a year or two away from the site reliability engineering itself so fuck it, let them quit

giziti.bsky.social•139 days ago

And if they don't work ceaselessly to bring Him into existence, they will be tortured for all eternity (or just be made poor, which is worse)

aloysiusfreeman.bsky.social•139 days ago

great, America turns into a JRPG.

cuttingcorners.bsky.social•139 days ago

They don’t think they’re going to die. If you think you’re going to die, you slap your name on every building you can.

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