Some folks are just *so* so close to saying "we need to let men do whatever they want to women, otherwise they'll hold our whole society hostage," but they keep getting tongue-tied and it comes out as "male loneliness epidemic"
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I was saying this exact thing just yesterday. It’s like, they’re simultaneously SO CLOSE to either saying “we should let men commit crimes against women” or having the epiphany that it’s weird that so many men in positions of power turn out to be scumbags.
They are so close to the understanding that men actively choose to ignore the thousands of male and female role models that do exist in favor of the worst of the worst. No one in good faith can actually say that there are NO good role models for men.
Lmao, it’s true! I saw someone make a compilation of polls on Twitter/X where they asked both men and women to pick which they found more attractive between either a really buff dude or an ‘average’ guy that just doesn’t work out/scrawny dude/or a dude with a bit of chub.
Almost every time they guys picked the buff guy and the women picked the not-movie-model option. They were so convinced the bug buff dude was so much more attractive that the women had to be lying. It’s like, dude, it’s okay.
When we say that gender norms or body expectations are BS, we mean that for men too. Starting to wonder if mmmaaaaay they might want to re-evaluate whether they wanna BE the buff guy or wanna be WITH him if they find him so attractive? 🤔
I gave up the ‘opportunity’ to see the chippendales (magic mike 80s style!) to hang out with my Nan and it was the best choice I ever made! My first pin up was Boy George and my teen one was Prince! Buff dudes 👎🏽 interesting dancey dudes 🙌🏽
(IMO) Men are lonely b/c they were raised into toxic masculinity where "emotions can't be shared with other men (that's "gay") and gentle emotions are "gay" unless you share them ONLY with women, BUT women are also evil & manipulative." And women are tired of bearing men's entire emotional load.
So women are less likely to drop everything for a guy who, more and more, seems to think sharing his feelings with her makes her "his" and she now owes him sex and devotion. So women avoid those men. And those men blame women for it.
Yes, I remember not too long ago if a girl did that - was emotionally available and kind to a man but rejected his advances - he was able to loudly shout about being friendzoned.
So women no longer want to be friends like that, and we are blamed, again
That's haaaard.
It is the same group who wanted a too added to BLM because they needed to be included, but fight against "inclusion".
Punching down is easier. For men to push for male needs to be addressed over women's is an easier win than dismantling the patriarchy (which benefits everyone)
Like there's arguably a loneliness epidemic among women too, but the result is like... cool music and really complex poetry. Being lonely does not automatically make people hold entire societies hostage - there's another factor here (it's patriarchy!)
The inability and unwillingness of the public discourse in the US to seriously engage with hierarchy and power dynamics of any kind is what keeps this alive, imo. If we did this entire line of thought would be terminated before it got to any headlines of major publications.
I mean, they basically can already. The max charge for DV in MI is 93 days in jail. Better to get them on an entirely different charge. Impeding someone from calling 911 is up to 2 years. 🤷♀️
In school, boys shld be told, look, most violence against girls is done by boys. And you all need to keep your hands to yourselves. And we’re gonna talk about this every week for the next 12 years.
Girls carry an unearned shame when we are raped. Can’t boys carry an unearned shame talking about it?
It really is just time to take the reins away from men. They have failed to make a just society that works for everyone and its clear they have no interest in doing so.
Article 3 - Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany
(1) All persons are equal before the law.
(2) Men and women shall have equal rights. The state shall promote the effective realisation of equal rights for women and men and shall work towards the elimination of existing disadvantages. 1/2
(3) No one shall be discriminated against or favoured on grounds of sex, descent, race, language, homeland and origin, creed, religious or political opinion. No person shall be discriminated against on the grounds of disability.
2/2
US law said that too - still says it in most cases - but here we are, regardless, because fascists are patriarchal shitstains. And there are fascists trying to claw their way back to power in Germany too.
The patriarchy continues, regardless of the law, because laws and people are separate things.
No doubt. But it will be a long time before we are irrelevant and will require massive amounts of effort being poured into reshaping the global order, which I'm not really sure will actually happen.
I want to blame insecurity, but then the question becomes “why do insecure men respond by blaming women and insecure women have such a different response?”, and the only workable answer I have to that returns to “patriarchy”, so I’m still depressed.
Yeah. However, it’s interesting to see them KIND OF turn on each other and blame mens behavior on the supposed ‘lack’ of positive role models for men. Like they’re still making a nonsense excuse to infantilize men to absolve themselves of consequences,
And the reason there is a supposed lack of positive role models for men is....
MEN
Yet they blame us for not raising them right.
FFS, so tired of this, at this 60 years and our marches, our protests, mean spit now.
As if there isn't a ton of men in limelight who offer positive role modelness. Like I don't wanna name names but there are plenty. It's like the whole "men aren't allowed to be emotional" when noones stopping them except themselves.
I refer you back to insecurity and ingrained habits from patriarchy.
Can’t show emotion is an understood thing, but it’s also not real. (Except maybe right wing politicians? They might actually have failure states from showing emotion well)
Am male. When I first heard about this "male loneliness epidemic" I thought to myself, self, What in the made up misogynistic problem victimhood is this bullshit?
Most of us men, we're just fine being on our own, well, with adult supervision, we're men after all.
I say that's both ends of an extreme. Replacing one negative stereotype with another is not particularly helpful. People need to be more mindful of each other, be more considerate of each other. Regardless of gender, sexuality, age, race it any other factor.
The solutions are simple. Treat others the way you want to be treated and think before you speak or act. Just do better! Why would anyone want to be around someone who is toxic and thinks of women as objects? A man’s ego and worth is not a woman’s responsibility. Stop making it our problem!
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They can’t have that.
SO.
LAME.
So women no longer want to be friends like that, and we are blamed, again
It is the same group who wanted a too added to BLM because they needed to be included, but fight against "inclusion".
Punching down is easier. For men to push for male needs to be addressed over women's is an easier win than dismantling the patriarchy (which benefits everyone)
The "let us hurt you or we'll hurt you" argument of male supremacy
Patriarchy's founding myth.
Absolute bullshit.
Girls carry an unearned shame when we are raped. Can’t boys carry an unearned shame talking about it?
Just saying.
Patriarchy didn't start in the US and it doesn't end at our borders. Wish it did though.
(1) All persons are equal before the law.
(2) Men and women shall have equal rights. The state shall promote the effective realisation of equal rights for women and men and shall work towards the elimination of existing disadvantages. 1/2
2/2
The patriarchy continues, regardless of the law, because laws and people are separate things.
But that will take decades.
Trust is quickly destroyed and difficult to rebuild.
I'm a dude and not lonely. That's because I have a family that loves me and normal relationships with the women in my life.
MEN
Yet they blame us for not raising them right.
FFS, so tired of this, at this 60 years and our marches, our protests, mean spit now.
Can’t show emotion is an understood thing, but it’s also not real. (Except maybe right wing politicians? They might actually have failure states from showing emotion well)
Most of us men, we're just fine being on our own, well, with adult supervision, we're men after all.
Arm all the women. Disarm all the men.
A tad radical, I know.