Whenever I hear people "moderates" talk about being in-between 2 "extremes", it really bothers me. Because I don't see it that way. I feel like everybody is falling victim to misinformation on a massive scale. The American left is not "extreme" at all.
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It's all part of the divide and conquer, misinformation political game.
Same with most of the other minority communities.
The straight white blue collar folks want their time in the sun again and will vote Republican if it seems threatened.
It's especially horrible that we're all just fighting different heads of the same hydra and acting like they're different monsters.
Moderates only think of themselves.
Prove me wrong
What does it even mean? 50% of the population deserves a living wage and healthcare?
"Radical libs/extreme left" (bullsh*t, we're more right than ever)
"Remove DEI" (whiteness only)
"Antifa" (anti-fascism)
"mental institutions" (political refugee seeking asylum)
Continue, ad nauseum
the right is a bunch of 4th branch bullshit.
the center is all money
That is an extreme position. That is not coming out of the mouth of anybody who is actually running for office.
This is one of the craziest things about the discourse and media to me. It's an open secret that most progressive policies are very popular even among presumably conservative electorates. But major outlets won't just say "Democratic policies are popular".
The Democrats are significantly to the right of many liberal / left parties in other nations.
Surprise, surprise! By ruling standards an imperialist capitalist nationalist is a “moderate.”
Obviously this has a way of warping our understanding
The United States is WAY BEHIND on most social programs.
And with the current king CUTTING EVEN MORE,
we are pretty much a dictatorship that only cares about PROFIT for BILLIONAIRES.
It's just sad, really.
Moderate as an eclectic mixture of rational and effective policies without regard to ideological purity can be pretty nifty.
When people throw a political temper tantrum and don’t vote because they didn’t get everything they wanted on every issue, the way they wanted it, they fucked over the rest of us (and the world) by allowing a dictator to seize control of America.
That seems extreme to me.
It’s obnoxious.
The Dems not being willing to shift their stance as the electorate shifts their expectations is a mistake on their part. Not selfishness on behalf of voters.
The right at least can vote as a block and stands for something. Even if that something is insane stupidity and bigotry.
I’ll see myself out
Centre right and extreme right.
And this is from somebody whose beliefs fit into anarcho-communism territory (so I compromise, cos even for Britain I'm too extreme in believing in UBI etc).
My goodness, people ... Pay attention!!!
What’s moderate between these two?
And you are right that this misperception is the result of people falling prey to propaganda. Additionally, that propaganda has, over the years, actually driven folks on the left further and further to the center and the right.
there is nothing more hateful or extreme to white America than asking them a share even one penny
-nothing-
We need to be able to call out the entire Republican party for taking this country to 1930s Germany.
Right: Sit down commie!
Moderates: I like it, but... Sit down commie!
Republicans have been dragging the American Overton Window rightward for decades.
Pretty sure the only indecision among voters is whether they'll bother each time.
Believing laws exist is Maoist revolutionary communalist praxis.
/Gestures broadly
After a humiliatingly negative outcome you go with, "Think this is a clear sign to double down."
The opposite equivalent of bigotry is to enslave or kill all the bigots, but that is considered extremely radical only because the bigots are in power.
I suspect you will find some answers in communication of left and moderate elites and in truly listening and connecting with folk from all rungs of society.
All I am asking is to look inward and to recognize that all political actors are responsible for the outcomes. Not for the _actions_ of a government once elected but for the electoral outcome they are.
Who is responsible for that?
You can point at people missinforming. You can point at career-demagoges. You can point at the gullible. Heck you can point at "the past" and people long dead.
Doesn't help a bit.
Rather call out and move those you can, help them learn. Foremost yourself.
Even idea of universal health care considered radical left.
So, taking care of each other is radical idea, apparently.
rebuild&renew growth trajectory.
The fact tht U don’t see that,indicates U R in t extreme left grp tht is UNAmerican& AntiAmerican,tht seeks 2…
Those groups hate each other.
We are so caught up in all the individual lies, we miss the larger, overarching lie.
My fave Politics prof in undergrad told us on the first day of class, “She who controls the agenda, controls.” So much truth.
Coke vs Pepsi and we need water.
All the downsides, none of the benefits.
Much of the discourse there (here?) seems dominated by a.) Literal avowed Nazis, and b.) Literal anarcho-communists--all anonymous.
Leads people to believe those extremes dominate "both" parties, when that's only half true.
The right goose-stepped WAY the hell over.
this shit is exhausting and i wish it was easier
But the lie has been repeated enough.
Good thoughtful people don't like brute repetition because it sounds crass.
But it works and we need to do it.
The contrast is between empathy and antipathy. Anyone who is a moderate on that spectrum is a bad person because the midway point between kindness and hate is APATHY.