CEO of AI Music company says people don’t like making music "I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.” 🔗 www.404media.co/ceo-of-ai-mu... - ThreadSky

404media.co • 138 days ago

CEO of AI Music company says people don’t like making music

"I think the majority of people don’t enjoy the majority of the time they spend making music.”

🔗 https://www.404media.co/ceo-of-ai-music-company-says-people-dont-like-making-music/

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bettevcollins.bsky.social•137 days ago

What a soulless putz.

kyle-culver.com•138 days ago

Mikey's the kind of guy who eats cardboard and says "oh, god, yes, more please!"

urbanaid.bsky.social•138 days ago

The Western civilization is Not based on Music Culture. It is steeling people energy & prompts to make money from it 🤷🏻‍♂️ The prompt is Art. #Ai is not

urbanaid.bsky.social•137 days ago

Schade dass man hier auf #bluesky gepostete Posts nicht nachträglich editieren kann cc @bsky.app 🤷🏻‍♂️

paddler50.bsky.social•137 days ago

And this clueless guy runs a *music* company?

peculiarsusan.bsky.social•137 days ago

Make that “music” company.

paddler50.bsky.social•137 days ago

Nope, emphasis, not quotation. Standard internet symbol when no other formatting is available.

peculiarsusan.bsky.social•137 days ago

lwr3628.bsky.social•136 days ago

what a dimly lit bulb lol. what a sad life to live, imagine being this wrong about something. couldn’t be me!

sidcale.bsky.social•137 days ago

"yeah we're totally destroying music as a human pursuit but people don't like doing it anyway so i don't have to feel guilty about it, i can just count my money, i'm not a garbage person"

frankieface15.bsky.social•137 days ago

Then they aren't meant to be making music, HELLO!!!. I am literally DRIVEN to make art. I can't help it. I'm not happy if I'm not making something, even if nobody sees it, or buys it, etc. I've been drawing since I could hold a crayon. Ugh.

benryanwriter.bsky.social•137 days ago

Methinks he would fail the marshmallow test.

lindsaygoldwert.bsky.social•137 days ago

I swear these people are hatched full-grown from Y Combinator test tubes

misctakes.com•137 days ago

So I went to this "entrepreneur boot camp" at my college once (didn't lead to anything) but stg one day one of the coaches there shared her harebrained theory that wasn't too far off from that

misctakes.com•137 days ago

something like they were using YC to collect data on the founders

lindsaygoldwert.bsky.social•137 days ago

There’s something there but I don’t exactly know what it is?

misctakes.com•137 days ago

yeah me neither

lindsaygoldwert.bsky.social•137 days ago

But it’s got skull and bones vibes

aloysiustheband.com•137 days ago

Every time I sit down with my guitar I’m like, gah I wish a robot was mediocrely playing this thing instead of me. Dreams do come true

libramonkee.bsky.social•138 days ago

ymartin.bsky.social•137 days ago

Poor guy.

charliegermano.bsky.social•137 days ago

This CEO is a grown ass man and goes by Mikey.

FOH with that, Mikey.

xoxo,
Someone who enjoys making music even though I I never intent to make a penny from it.

therealjimsanto.bsky.social•137 days ago

lockers were invented to push this dweeb into

deirdremeyer.bsky.social•137 days ago

What an idiot

artphobos.bsky.social•137 days ago

absolute clownshoes thinking.

leopazz.bsky.social•137 days ago

Owner of slaughterhouse says most cows don't like living

buckfastball.bsky.social•137 days ago

💀💀💀

aloysiustheband.com•137 days ago

Guy Who Convinced VC to Give Him a Bag of Cash Thinks His Idea is Good, Actually

vegetablegremlin.bsky.social•138 days ago

its like talking to an alien

totallynormal13.bsky.social•138 days ago

"So we dumbed it so far down a chimp could do it. Creativity is hard and tiring!"

vegetablegremlin.bsky.social•138 days ago

the thing is, it's dumbed down to a point that no one is doing it

rvwarlock.neocities.org•136 days ago

People like this are broken. They can't even comprehend that many find enjoyment and purpose in creating art. Their brains have been corrupted in the pursuit of infinite growth and pleasing shareholders. Their soul is empty, and they shallowly try to fill the void by increasing their net worth.

jil-enaread.bsky.social•138 days ago

"What a fool believes, he'll see..."

gael-ico.bsky.social•138 days ago

Can someone kill him with a multiclass ranger-bard build (violin arrow)

carefulweb.bsky.social•138 days ago

It’s a PR stunt. Making bold controversial statements is what gets you attention.
There are many creative use of AI in the music making process, but if you hate that process Suno won’t help you :)

marcusmpereira.bsky.social•138 days ago

Well

boomboxes-unite.bsky.social•138 days ago

This POS has no soul

petehotchkiss.bsky.social•137 days ago

AI has achieved one thing above all else. It's proven the existence of the human soul

By showing us what art looks like when you take soul out of it

bawbfromonline.bsky.social•137 days ago

this guy fucking sucks

frozzbot.bsky.social•138 days ago

Spoken like a true CEO.

theghost42.bsky.social•138 days ago

"I don't get music so nobody possibly could either".

donnchristianson.bsky.social•137 days ago

Obviously, this fellow is not an artist and a musician.

bodyartbrandon.bsky.social•138 days ago

Absolutely F*ck anything AI, but especially AI created music

westernzoo.bsky.social•138 days ago

"I think" meaning "I don't know"

kappesante.bsky.social•138 days ago

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bmuzed.bsky.social•137 days ago

Then pay them

niandralades94.bsky.social•136 days ago

@fantano.bsky.social

peteohanlon.bsky.social•138 days ago

I love the act of making music. There's something emotionally satisfying when you come up with a lick or riff that you like, and then you expand and connect it with other ideas for it to become something much more complex.

michaelaldridge.link•138 days ago

“Suno is a music start-up that enables anyone to make the songs they want.” - so develop a fucking DAW, but I guess something as wholesome wouldn’t have snagged a series B round. Whatever the valuation, it’s creatively and morally bankrupt.

michaelaldridge.link•138 days ago

Wonder if that brain dead utterance was the first slide of his pitch-deck.

crackpotartist.bsky.social•138 days ago

Has he ever made music?

datasolidarity.bsky.social•138 days ago

I can kind of understand the point of a chatbot that basically recycles the history of published text for things like explaining concepts or being a friend. But who wants unoriginal music?

snargleplax.bsky.social•137 days ago

Lots of unoriginal, derivative music created by uncreative or cynical humans sells to mass audience; not that this in any way validates his point, but it's probably a hint at how he got there.

reidangela.bsky.social•137 days ago

Because HE can’t make music! Hilarious!!

marcmck.bsky.social•137 days ago

With his CEO salary he could have paid for music lessons, for God's sake...

reidangela.bsky.social•137 days ago

Yes but no. He would rather steal content than have to learn or change.

marcmck.bsky.social•137 days ago

That is also true.

krellend20.bsky.social•137 days ago

Can we stop talking to AI executives please?

ulture.bsky.social•137 days ago

yeah when our ancestors tens of thousands of years ago spent hundreds of hours painstakingly carving rocks into gongs and bones into flutes, they did that to make money and hated every second they spent playing the damn things

chuckennui.bsky.social•138 days ago

Imma hit them with my bass like I'm on the cover of London Calling. Brb.

cosmicolt.bsky.social•137 days ago

marnest.bsky.social•138 days ago

A colleague once told me she could tell which kids would go far on the piano. It wasn’t necessarily the most talented ones. It was the ones who enjoyed the process.

slippytoad14.bsky.social•138 days ago

There really isn't any such thing as 'talent'. There's just passion and the hard work that you put into it. You've got to love what you're doing to get good at it.

marnest.bsky.social•138 days ago

If you want to define away talent, go ahead, but that’s not my experience. Of course, passion and the capacity for hard work are major components of talent. But decades ago I met a Russian concert pianist who told me he didn’t enjoy playing, but it had been his ticket out of factory work.

slippytoad14.bsky.social•138 days ago

So he had a motivation to put his effort into it.

It's still just time and energy.

marnest.bsky.social•138 days ago

In your previous reply it was time, energy, and love.

zenzuke.bsky.social•137 days ago

Love is just the most likely way for someone to pour untold hours and effort into something, but certainly lust, spite, avoiding starvation... can be powerful too.

marnest.bsky.social•138 days ago

Nonsense. Not everyone can become a concert pianist - in the same way that not everyone can become an NBA power forward. The talent may not be as obviously visible, but it’s still real.

marcmck.bsky.social•137 days ago

nojustdan.bsky.social•137 days ago

Nothing could be more wrong. I write and record several new tunes a month. I would write more but I’m out playing gigs most of the time. I enjoy all of it.

mwriston.bsky.social•138 days ago

Proving yet again that capitalism is defined as the art of debasing oneself in pursuit of monetary gain.

chadlevinson.com•137 days ago

Recently took up piano again after a 30 year hiatus. It’s one of the best things I’ve done for myself in 30 years.

innerlmnt.bsky.social•138 days ago

That's because musicians aren't the majority of people, dickhole

riecks.bsky.social•137 days ago

So that’s one opinion…how does he extrapolate that to a whole industry?

keev.es•138 days ago

Majority of people making AI projects don't enjoy making AI projects ..., but money

afbourque.bsky.social•137 days ago

Just because HE has zero imagination and even less soul, doesn't mean other people are the same.

nojustdan.bsky.social•137 days ago

AI generated music is the audio equivalent to AI generated art. It’s always got too many fingers on one hand.

handlebarorionx.bsky.social•137 days ago

I've heard what "music" AI can make. It's the same flat soulless emotionless slop that any hairbrained son-of-an-industry-exec corborate EDM DJ has been making since 2017. It innovates nothing, understands nothing and makes more generic depressing retail muzak manufactured for virtually nobody!

handlebarorionx.bsky.social•137 days ago

We already have no-name producers making crappy flat and nowadays a bit dated pseudo-EDM covers of 70s 80s and 90s classics that miss the plot and have the same vibe. We already have depressing or list-of-rural-shit country. We don't need AI generating more of this Marshmelo or Morgan Wallen crap!

handlebarorionx.bsky.social•137 days ago

It generates the sort of music that never really was very popular, never trended, but plays all the time at your local Walgreens or casino and has been since 2013. Nobody needs Suno! I don't need a robot making muzak focus grouped for my generaton I already cannot stand and the rest ignore!

pantonson.bsky.social•138 days ago

Ghouls

stacypatrick.bsky.social•138 days ago

CEO of a joyless product for people with vacant souls probably shouldn't be commenting on anything to do with an actual creative process

zespiole.bsky.social•138 days ago

you nailed it 😍♥️

robertcadena.bsky.social•137 days ago

hatpacket.bsky.social•137 days ago

this is really strange!

melissaf.bsky.social•137 days ago

I hate liars

newosity.com•136 days ago

SUNO CEO weeps that lawsuits over theft of copyrighted music slurped into SUNO could deprive users of the pleasure of making AI musical slop with a text prompt.

tinyconstruct.bsky.social•138 days ago

More and more obvious that AI proponents are so impressed with the technology because they are boring, talentless dorks.

mikereinders.bsky.social•137 days ago

Don't look directly into his eyes, he looks like Paul Rudd

idesofmae.bsky.social•138 days ago

lol hey ceo numb nuts

saldemar.bsky.social•137 days ago

I just spent 45 minutes playing kids songs on a tenor saxophone I just got at Christmas. I guess he thinks I'd rather listen to AI do that instead?

Fundamentally anti human, man

tocatchathief.bsky.social•138 days ago

The ceo is really AI aren't they 🤷‍♀️🙄

credtent.bsky.social•137 days ago

Wow, does he know any musicians?

marcmck.bsky.social•137 days ago

jimmytwohands.bsky.social•136 days ago

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masterplan15.bsky.social•137 days ago

What utter horseshit

clipper.bsky.social•138 days ago

I added this quote to the Suno wikipedia page and referenced this article

clipper.bsky.social•138 days ago

I, too, was perplexed by the complete dogshit coming out of this dude’s mouth when I first heard it a couple days ago

artxchemistry.com•137 days ago

I’m profoundly over these clueless, soulless tech bro types who lack any shred of artistic creativity and who just don’t get it. I’m no musician, but the ones I know LOVE making music, same can be said for writers, photographers, painters etc.

artxchemistry.com•137 days ago

Personally, if I could spend more of my time behind a camera or making prints, less of it sitting at a computer writing code for someone else, and still keep the lights on, I’d do it in a heartbeat!

persistentpatriot.bsky.social•137 days ago

I'll take real music made by real artists every day of the week. AI is exactly what it says in its name... Artificial.

metasynthesis.net•138 days ago

Classic example of product vs process confusion. https://synthesis.williamgunn.org/2023/10/21/wheres-the-art-in-artificial-intelligence/

aaronamal.bsky.social•138 days ago

Ummm yeah, that's why we listen to the incredibly talented human beings that do?? I don't love cooking but I watch Food Network. I'm ass at fighting games but I'll watch Daigo train Street Fighter 6 on Twitch. You don't have to enjoy something to enjoy other ppl do it well 🤷🏿‍♂️

sluggishcheetah.bsky.social•137 days ago

He should really speak for himself. In a locked safe. At the bottom of Lake Michigan.

peculiarsusan.bsky.social•137 days ago

Of course he does.

jcastillotan.bsky.social•138 days ago

By this same logic, everyone is better off just taking heroin

virtuo.uk•138 days ago

I'm struggling to find a flaw in this logic

wydamn.bsky.social•137 days ago

This says less about musicians, and more about the type of person that pushes this generative AI crap.

dannydoescode.bsky.social•137 days ago

Look, I'm only a hobbyist musician, but what the actual eff?! Why would I have [not telling] instruments if I didn't enjoy playing them?

saldemar.bsky.social•137 days ago

Go ahead, dish

How many

dannydoescode.bsky.social•137 days ago

2 acoustic guitars, 2 electric guitars (a six string and a twelve), 2 ukuleles, a banjo, a violin in desperate need of repair, several little drum machines and synthesizers, and a bevy of Pocket Operators.

saldemar.bsky.social•137 days ago

2 acoustic guitars (classical and standard), Tele and flying V, 2 handbuilt amps and cabs, V collection, alto and tenor sax, Elektron DT and OT MK2, korg and ZOIA... I feel ya

dannydoescode.bsky.social•137 days ago

We'd form a support group, but the meetings will just turn into giant jam sessions, and we'll all leave wanting to buy more gear.

jamesfoxbr.bsky.social•138 days ago

CEOs are able to say epic stupid stuff to try to attract money.

codingpackets.com•138 days ago

figmentpudding.com•137 days ago

If he doesn’t like music
Maybe he should just not do music stuff

glenb.bsky.social•137 days ago

Well... in a way, he's not. 😉

acinixys.bsky.social•138 days ago

This guy sounds like a blast.

magiskeld.bsky.social•138 days ago

Sorry, not true.

zespiole.bsky.social•138 days ago

oh, yes, I understand, and as a painter, I hate painting, hate brushes, hate mixing colours. I also hate making my own sketchbooks, hate looking for hours at horrible colours in shops, hate everything linked to painting.

dannypires.com•138 days ago

Quick! Someone send him a video of Marc Rebillet!

mrmichaelmiller.bsky.social•138 days ago

These AI bros are the most ignorant charlatans.

xjames.bsky.social•137 days ago

People devoid of creativity hate being creative

samanderic.bsky.social•137 days ago

Is there anyone in AI that isn’t a complete asshole?

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