Remember when the Democrats were in charge and the Republicans were not the least bit fearful of pushing for a government shut down because eventually it’s party and power who pays? Why can’t Democrats read the room? - ThreadSky

piperformissouri.bsky.social • 72 days ago

Remember when the Democrats were in charge and the Republicans were not the least bit fearful of pushing for a government shut down because eventually it’s party and power who pays?

Why can’t Democrats read the room?

Comments

spinny.bsky.social•72 days ago

If there is some grand strategy at play, the least they could do is maybe let us in on it.

I know war metaphors are overplayed right now; but one of the most dangerous situations in any battlefield is generals who work from one truth and soldiers who work from another.

bouldervoter.bsky.social•72 days ago

Pushing for, but even McConnell backed away from actually doing it, after the first time. Dammit, I think it's all still driven by 'internal polling,' consultants and pundits.

baddog64.bsky.social•72 days ago

Fuck the senate democrats ‼️‼️‼️‼️ America is going to hell where it belongs.

eveg2015.bsky.social•72 days ago

Agree 100%. Republicans would have voted no. Why democrats have to give in??? Stay united and determined. Stay strong. This is not the old times GOP. We need a strong Democratic Party to stand for American people! GOP will blame Dems regardless. They will do what they want if Dems don’t stop them.

gourls.bsky.social•72 days ago

And when Dems are in power, they're so concerned with optics and "building coalitions" or whatever else as opposed to, like, brute forcing progressive policies through. "The Rs will do that too if we try it!" Bro, they are gonna do that anyway.

jadedmillenialmom.bsky.social•72 days ago

THIS is why we lost - this lack of backbone. This capitulating. They did not match the energy of the hate being put off by the MAGA party. We have to be LOUDER than their hate and shove the facts in their face until there is nothing left to do but accept them or GTFO.

m4rco3.bsky.social•72 days ago

Democrat "leadership" is perpetually concerned about appearing to be the 'BAD GUY'.
Also terrified of upsetting the status quo.
Fucking cowards.

vehementlytina.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because Chuck Schumer and a few others are afraid of their stock portfolio tanking.

marginalsc.bsky.social•72 days ago

Enabling Trump seems like a funny way to do that given his track record to date.

vehementlytina.bsky.social•72 days ago

Never heard of pump and dump?

riseupresistnow.bsky.social•72 days ago

Oh you mean the REAL reason these ON/OFF tariffs are happening? Nope, neva heard of that fucked up and illegal trading behavior.

Same with insider trading...what's that?

marginalsc.bsky.social•72 days ago

Need a pump for that.

vehementlytina.bsky.social•72 days ago

Yes, happened right after he won. https://www.marketplace.org/2024/11/06/why-stocks-jumped-after-trumps-election/

brettmccabe.bsky.social•72 days ago

It starts with a Capital P and it kind of rhymes with…..

danipayson.bsky.social•72 days ago

Wussy?

donald-trumpshka.bsky.social•71 days ago

Trump would've had no incentive to open the govt again--ever, and would've had control of which aspects to open as essential. Martial law would surely have followed--how else to maintain order? There would've been no courts to constrain him. It would have been the end of democracy in America.

danipayson.bsky.social•72 days ago

I wish I knew. It’s so disappointing 🤬

cassandra9.bsky.social•72 days ago

Awful feckless “leadership” 😤

piperformissouri.bsky.social•72 days ago

We can’t afford to give Trump and Musk what they want. Stand firm or get out of the way.

ecu-alum.bsky.social•72 days ago

Hey Chuck...

piperformissouri.bsky.social•72 days ago

*in power* ugh…

baddog64.bsky.social•72 days ago

Fuck America the world’s newest dictatorship 💀💀💀💀💀

bluepointer.bsky.social•72 days ago

Unlike you, I live in a state where we have the caver-in-chief, and a waffler. These two have & will choose the wrong side of this deal. If they can’t say “no” to this, they won’t say “no” to anything that follows. Debt ceiling? Declarations of war on Canada/Panama/Greenland? I can see it coming.

kmoyle.bsky.social•72 days ago

And to think that Schumer was surprised that he should be replaced as minority leader after the election! This is why!!!

susaneisenberg1.bsky.social•72 days ago

!!!

themidlifemedium.bsky.social•72 days ago

We will primary and vote out every single Senate Dem who does not stand with We the People.

HOLD THE LINE OR RESIGN

stephgabz.bsky.social•72 days ago

They lack leadership and any sense of direction. They WILL REMAIN ineffective as they are now. Fight back and fight hard.

findyourpeace.bsky.social•72 days ago

Stupidity? Timidity? Schumer wants to go on vacation or plug his book? It defies my imagination. He should round up enough Republicans who are not fond of this dirty CR either and pass a 30 day extension, send it to the House and make the 'lil imp call his folks back or shutdown is on them.

ver68.bsky.social•71 days ago

They were and are still cowards. When the leader of the democratic congress, gave his fellow members a stern talking to about their behavior in congress, we were doomed.

cajunasfuck.bsky.social•72 days ago

jgieseke.bsky.social•72 days ago

There is a difference in not being able and not wanting to.

motleycruising.bsky.social•72 days ago

This! All of this!

iconoglass.bsky.social•72 days ago

Right now I think there are two who are YES votes?

cdfchrispost.bsky.social•72 days ago

Merrick Garland, the stay at home closet Democratic misogynistic white racists, anti-vaxxers, Jill Stein waste my vote voters, the "but her emails" crowd, Mitch McConnell and the GOP, and now Chuck Schumer own this shit show. Hope you're all happy. It's time to pick a side.

philrandomthoughts.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because unfortunately most elected Democrats are cowards who are there simply to collect a check and absorb as many "donations" and kickbacks as they can.

msmsfit2022.bsky.social•72 days ago

From Satan himself

poetphilosopher.bsky.social•72 days ago

👍

cliftonh.bsky.social•72 days ago

We just convincingly reelected a game show host and coup leader. You that sure the Dems can pin a shut down on them by convincing the public? Seems to me the room full of Dems huffing the fantasy that some magic vote stops the fascists is a problem.

birdiebean.bsky.social•72 days ago

Honestly.. it’s always about compromise, which the gop has never done. Why do the dems continue this weak ass behavior?? We need push back. We need fight. Not concession

beefunwellington.bsky.social•72 days ago

They can’t politics.

hay-for-tttt.bsky.social•72 days ago

i'm starting to think they just can't read, period. otherwise they would be able to see what everyone is saying and understand what the right course of action is.

fakemrpopo.bsky.social•72 days ago

When government fails the people step up.
Spread the word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeIi3z0OYMQ

danhawkins11.bsky.social•72 days ago

Democrats need new leadership at the top!
Mark Kelly
Chris Murphy

lea3193.bsky.social•72 days ago

I honestly don't know what he's thinking. Too set in his ways? Afraid of what his donors will say? Wanting this over so he can enjoy his book tour?
No matter the answer, he is not the person for the job. We need new ideas and a willingness to fight for the people. He has neither.

heywatchthis3.bsky.social•72 days ago

Its easy for us to cry for blood but, the reality is a good shepherd protects the flock at ALL costs.
I believe, if we pushed to a shut down the republicans would welcome it and millions more people would suffer. After all, maga is actively trying to kill government agencies. Thoughts?

plutoniary.bsky.social•72 days ago

We can’t know for sure. I think the danger that during/after a shutdown the regime will conduct many nefarious activities and may indeed just never reopen the many agencies they don’t like. Schumer isn’t crazy to suggest this possibility. But I still think the Dems need to show they won’t capitulate

heywatchthis3.bsky.social•72 days ago

The need to fight back is clear however its a thin line to walk when seen through the prism of people’s suffering.
I’m open to all suggestions.

snoop-mogg.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because they're afraid of consequences

kymgrosso.bsky.social•72 days ago

We must have an organized boycott. DO NOT DONATE TO DEMOCRATS until they change leadership in the house & senate. They do not listen to constituents.

gigglybeth.bsky.social•72 days ago

That's what I have been saying, too. The R's have no problem voting along party lines and shutting down the govt.

I'm absolutely disgusted at the lack of backbone right now.

ckuebler.bsky.social•72 days ago

Media is not covering the protests. But they are huge.

#resistance #protest #50501movement #fucktheking #fuckmusk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wOZEEARFbc

modulous.bsky.social•72 days ago

Exactly. Republicans are willing to fight to the end and Dems aren't. Its an asymmetry that Dems can't ever win.

renegade-07.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because those rich corrupt politicians are benefiting from the system that got them there. Why would they want to turn off the gravy train just because some angry constituents? We need to cut their leadership off.

next-x.bsky.social•72 days ago

cut em off with something other than a butter knife

wyrdandnerdy.bsky.social•71 days ago

*SOME* Democrats *can*.

Imho it's been enough time now to see which few Dems are actually willing to *fight*. (e.g. AOC, Sanders)

As for the others? Screw 'em.

I mean: for as long as they're in office, we have to make them wish they weren't in office. But other than that, they should be ignored.

stupidshouldhurt.bsky.social•72 days ago

I wish you had won your election. You are what the dems need. Everywhere.

babasburfi.bsky.social•72 days ago

Schumer has messed up big time.

antifa-operator.bsky.social•72 days ago

Yeah it's like they have absolutely no survival instinct. Like have some agility dudes. Government Shutdown - Dem President: bad. Government Shutdown - fascist president: good. This is very simple.

battlebee55.bsky.social•72 days ago

They didn’t though. Except for the times when they did and they got pummeled in the next election, right? And wouldn’t this make it easier for the government to be dismantled? I don’t know. It’s so confusing.

adewright.bsky.social•72 days ago

Corruption and or Cowardice

next-x.bsky.social•72 days ago

I want to know what do they have on Chuck?

captspacepants.bsky.social•72 days ago

Reading is what?
Fundamental

paulkentallen.bsky.social•72 days ago

Schumer can’t read the room because he hasn’t updated his bifocals in 30 years.

jillc.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because they’re chicken shits

llfregede.bsky.social•72 days ago

Too many old men in charge!

basketcase4ever99.bsky.social•72 days ago

Exactly

fawkseymoron.bsky.social•72 days ago

Like we're currently ushering in a literal fascist regime and the Dems are STILL afraid pushing back might hurt?

It cannot be more clear that there is almost no runway left to even fight back at all, yet they're still trying to adhere to a DNC playbook from 2 generations ago.

imamandajo.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because they're still trying to bring a plastic butter knife to a gunfight.

dj-lys.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because they know the billionaires backing the Republican play will put Democrats on blast on TV for 32 days straight blaming them for what Republicans are doing.

Corporate owned Democrats are completely worthless at standing up to republicans, because they idolize Republican greed.

mayamedia.bsky.social•72 days ago

Remember, this is very much NOT the first time @schumer.senate.gov has stabbed us in the back. This news article is from the 1st Trump administration.
Schumer’s deal to fast-track Trump judges makes progressive activists furious
https://www.vox.com/2018/8/30/17797770/chuck-schumer-trump-judicial-nominees

gototown.bsky.social•72 days ago

There's a stark difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans want the government to shut down. It's their dream come true.

peterlion.bsky.social•72 days ago

Has anyone checked to see if there are any new EVs in Chuck's driveway?

lazydazie.bsky.social•72 days ago

3. Not that i dont agree with a shut down - i do but there is nothing good going down either way. They have all lost their freaking minds. Souls were gone long ago. Hearts - never had them.

lazydazie.bsky.social•72 days ago

2. Dems - we are fucked either way because repubes simply dont care just as trump and musk and maga dont care. They are all insane and so beyond corrupt. They have no intention of giving US anything. They are just set on taking it all

lazydazie.bsky.social•72 days ago

1. think the difference here is the republicans are now trumPUSSIans no longer republicans. They enabled and empowered this every step of the way. They could have stopped it at any point even with a handful of them and not even a hiccup … they are traitors. They sold out the country - sold US out

avendarien.bsky.social•72 days ago

The dems have to be forced to realize we have entered into a period of political warfare. Appeasement is defeat.

deanthedoggo.bsky.social•71 days ago

House Democrats did their job knowing full-well that the House had no power to do anything. They were counting on back-up from Senate Democrats who DO have that power. Senate Dems agreed to back them up. They broke that agreement. How does one give credit where it's due, yet still call out the rest?

retiredwhitelady.bsky.social•72 days ago

Also, Rs chose a CR because they couldn't agree on a budget...they are not in a position of strength. If they were, they could choose to do this through reconciliation, but they don't have enough of their own votes to do that.

rebecca63.bsky.social•72 days ago

We’re making a list, checking it twice. Gonna find out who put in the knife then we’re gonna run’em out of town.

yvettejr718.bsky.social•72 days ago

Stubbornness & an inability to change with the times (Schumer).

gonzoinhouston.bsky.social•72 days ago

Because they don’t want to face the fact that this time it’s different. This time the fate of democracy is in the balance. The republicans are at war with democracy. Time to support and defend the Constitution .

randypitler.bsky.social•72 days ago

Stunning lack of leadership. He’s too old school, focused on keeping the government running, ignoring that this is not about the actual CR. The fight is about the fight.