One of my favorite types of post will always be someone being like “you seriously think this show is for kids? Then how do you explain this” followed by a clip of a show that aired on Disney Channel or Nickelodeon in which a character says the word die - ThreadSky

ladyemily.nebula.tv • 192 days ago

One of my favorite types of post will always be someone being like “you seriously think this show is for kids? Then how do you explain this” followed by a clip of a show that aired on Disney Channel or Nickelodeon in which a character says the word die

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uzumakiclan743.bsky.social•192 days ago

Seriously. I’m going through one of those right now with kids shows that I didn’t remember finishing growing up/ hearing secondhand (currently the Disney Afternoon.) While the sensibilities in the humor and writing is defo for kids, the animation and sense of adventure has been enthralling 2 c as an

uzumakiclan743.bsky.social•192 days ago

adult.

americantoast.bsky.social•192 days ago

I don't understand the subculture of people who only watch things made for children or young teens but refuse to acknowledge it. At least if you admit it that's fine but people who try to make things more "adult" than they actually are just kinda confuse me

i-am-erk.bsky.social•192 days ago

Heck yeah. Sometimes adult shows are obnoxiously edgy and emotionally tiring. There's no shame in wanting a chill time watching fun stuff and not thinking about death. There is a little shame in not being willing to admit it

kuuga.bsky.social•192 days ago

It's insecurity. Whole population segments who have strong attachments to all-ages media but limited experience with adult drama, especially adult drama outside of science fiction and fantasy. They need their consumption patterns/tastes validated.

aboxofspoons.bsky.social•192 days ago

Even if you do fan stuff going more adult than the source material ever would, just have some damn self-awareness and understand that’s what you’re doing.

It’s like the inverse of saying the stuff you liked as a kids sucks because you’re insecure about having liked it.

pagodrink.bsky.social•192 days ago

People do sadly shit on others for liking childish things. There was a autistic tiktoker who's special interest was Bluey and a bunch of comments were saying she was "infantilizing" autism.
(Video here: https://youtu.be/_2C7GOOHZa8?si=LHLUYDnAjpSQrTIT)
I think that's why people try to justify it being more adult.

redcomets.net•192 days ago

This is why I love calling Gundam "my silly robot cartoon" and "my favorite toy commercial" it keeps me humble

cookietheconqueror.bsky.social•192 days ago

"This pokemon is so messed up! How did this make it into a kids game???"

*pokedex entry that says the word 'shoot'*

sirilyan.com•192 days ago

The one exception is that episode of Teen Titans Go! that was about building an inventory of rental properties to generate passive income.

angelgoodwin.bsky.social•191 days ago

Not to mention in TTG!, using the idea of chili peppers as drugs and milk as an antidote in one episode...

It would be used to show how addiction can lead to overdose without explicit visuals, but clear that overdoing something can result in consequences.

Both kid and adults can learn from that.

pennockty.bsky.social•191 days ago

Or when Ned’s Newt stopped and asked, “what if it was Keyser Sozé?”

garbagedog.bsky.social•191 days ago

Children aren't inept like people seem to think, they're just lacking in knowledge and maturity

haloeightbky.bsky.social•192 days ago

Me in 6th grade talking to my friends about Dragon Ball

ameliarosewrite.bsky.social•191 days ago

"Another dimension"

ladyemily.nebula.tv•192 days ago

As someone who loves all these shows, this is how people talk about Clone Wars, Transformers Prime, Gravity Falls, She-Ra, and any other cartoon that happens to have a large fanbase outside of kids

kapenguin.bsky.social•192 days ago

Pokemon too, very much so.

miscu.bsky.social•192 days ago

I think people forget how often kids seek out way more twisted stuff than is on TV, e.g. my sister becoming a fan of jhonen vasquez's comics or me looking at horror movie plot synopses when we were pretty young. kids love weird and scary things

f1ngerless.bsky.social•192 days ago

this is my theory about five nights at freddy's and skibidi toilet. disturbing imagery that kids love without any explicit gore that would make parents yank the ipad out of their kids hands.

rubigb.bsky.social•192 days ago

Meanwhile, Neon Genesis Evangelion was technically children's programming in Japan, airing in the same timeslot as Ninja Turtles

dacworkshop.bsky.social•192 days ago

On that same tangent, the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine and others of their ilk are explicitly aimed at "young boys" but it doesn't stop the comics in there from being very graphic. Shoutout to Sakamoto Days having a guy get decapitated with a bow string *in this week's issue*

jonathaneilbeck.bsky.social•192 days ago

Animals of Farthing Wood was a British kids show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pypyDDPmIQ

ladyemily.nebula.tv•192 days ago

Like it’s consistently really funny like lol okay

jehyyc.bsky.social•192 days ago

Curious how people would react when they realize that they’re exhibiting Brony behaviour when they do this 🤣. It’s fine to love material outside of your demo but this rhetoric is hilarious. You don’t need to convince me that the source material is “adult” when you’re writing a Bluey fanfic

gummybearlover.bsky.social•192 days ago

Let’s normalize not having to justify why we like things even if the intended audience was a younger demographic

queenshiki.bsky.social•192 days ago

They would not survive animaniacs

soobaloo.bsky.social•192 days ago

The more I see these kinds of memes the more I think about how people don't take children seriously and think they can't handle anything other than super innocent media with no deeper meaning.

homebodyhime.com•192 days ago

How 16 y/o's talk to preteens

boredompeejeterson.bsky.social•192 days ago

You think BAMBIE is a movie for kids?!

bigcheddarss.bsky.social•191 days ago

Clone Wars in particular it crosses the line from “haha isn’t it crazy this is here” to kinda frustrating because the show will gesture broadly in the direction of the Jedi Council arming & training the space mujahideen or something and then never explore the implications of that.

greatereremily.bsky.social•192 days ago

These felt really validating when I was 10 I will say that.

matrixman124.hellthread.vet•192 days ago

I am now a Ninjago fan I guess because I watched all of it with my kid and I do like it lol

pazuzuonline.bsky.social•192 days ago

I'm not a fan because last thanksgiving my cousin's 5 year old had a meltdown because his brother called him a Ninjago

matrixman124.hellthread.vet•192 days ago

It's not even what anybody is called in the show

It's the name of the world they live in and the ninjas yell NINJA GO when they use spinjitsu

pazuzuonline.bsky.social•192 days ago

Maybe that's why it upset him so much

golda.bsky.social•192 days ago

Ok but that Korra one was still pretty damn brutal for a kids show.

arentios.bsky.social•192 days ago

'Oh so you think shonen manga is made for young boys?'

ceremus.bsky.social•192 days ago

Like there weren't whole generations of actual grade-school children who were regularly read things like Grimm's Fairy Tales

asothecrow.bsky.social•192 days ago

I think this comes from insecurity tbh

filmfreak1994.bsky.social•192 days ago

Kids love gratuitous violence and dark themes as much as adults. Where do they think adults learned to love it?

midnightmass.bsky.social•192 days ago

we need to leave room for "i saw this as a kid, understood what was going on, and went woah 🤯"

jacobpeterson.bsky.social•192 days ago

Something something, "The dark lore behind the Gummie Bears!"

petalcharite.bsky.social•192 days ago

love that the last one was specifically gendered LMAO

saul365.nextia.space•192 days ago

Then when people say don't let kids watch "the amazing digital circus is not for kids" say all cartoons are for childrdn

lumpawaroomd.bsky.social•192 days ago

Children want to be treated like adults. That's why kids media often has more mature elements. If you are an adult you don't need people to tell you that the kids media you enjoy is actually for adults. You are an adult! It came for free with your becoming an adult!

violetsalazar.bsky.social•192 days ago

Which is why kids loved Artemis fowl and a series of unfortunate events

voncornhole2.bsky.social•192 days ago

"political terrorism"

linkara.bsky.social•192 days ago

A lot of people just don't have respect for kids or media intended to engage and excite them. They don't recognize that kids can handle stories that sometimes deal with SLIGHTLY more mature subject matters and in fact serve as a great way to introduce them to such things.

To them, kids' media is...

linkara.bsky.social•192 days ago

...just happy fun time empty sugar without anything deep or challenging when of course like ALL media it has its various ranges and tones.

ladyemily.nebula.tv•192 days ago

Yeah like that’s the thing, as a kid I gravitated towards stuff like Invader Zim and Clone Wars and Teen Titans BECAUSE they felt like they took my seriously and introduced a lot of fun and interesting concepts to me. Kids like mature, dark stuff, and it’s cool when kid media can strike that balance

rainbowsixpatriots.bsky.social•191 days ago

Same here, I enjoyed shows like Hey Arnold because they didn't talk down to kids and treated them with respect. Contrast that with vapid garbage like Teen Titans Go that treats kids like drooling idiots with zero attention by putting in obnoxious voices and sounds and terrible lazy jokes.

cowchunk.bsky.social•192 days ago

All TV is either Teletubbies or Game of Thrones with no inbetween whatsoever

superdarklightz.bsky.social•191 days ago

Isn't stuff like this why so many kids and teens gravitated to anime?

vincentmarie.bsky.social•192 days ago

I've been watching GRAVITY FALLS since my 20s & it's been one of my favorite comfort shows ever since.

These Youtubers are the kinds of people who'd make Top 10 Naughtiest Jokes in ANIMANIACS or ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE if Top 10 Lists hadn't gone out of video vogue.

elfdragon12.bsky.social•190 days ago

Yeah, watching TFP for the first time as an adult, it's very clearly for kids. Beast Wars covered darker topics. (And, with all the love and adoration, was still for kids.)

frankentrotsky.bsky.social•192 days ago

This is an anxiety I feel is particularly strong among teenage fans of these shows.

broken-vessel.bsky.social•192 days ago

I agree with most of those, but Christ does GF have some dark moments later. Like yeah most of it's chill but Weirdmageddon? Torture? Eldritch horrors? "I've got some children I need to make into corpses"? (also how the hell did Alex Hirsch get away with that but not "bottles will be spun"?)

rubigb.bsky.social•191 days ago

Americans are much more chill about exposing kids to violence than to anything remotely sexual

sirkofwander.bsky.social•192 days ago

I always found the "THIS IS FOR KIDS?" comments really funny as it feels so scandalized over minor stuff.
I grew up on Digimon & death happened all the time. There was several moments which had the kids grasp that they were killing living beings... & thats not even touching on the 3rd Season!

sirkofwander.bsky.social•192 days ago

Kids seek out darker stuff a lot. Its why horror stuff is so popular with kids from Mascot Horror today to Goosebumps when I was a kid. I really don't understand why modern adults seem to approach children with bubblewrap kids gloves in regards to that. Kids love monsters and dark stuff.

therealjarkes.bsky.social•192 days ago

Yeah, even with some of the awkward censorship in the old Digimon dubs, they didn't completely shy away from death.

sirkofwander.bsky.social•192 days ago

yeah I remember in season 02 during the Daemon corps episode where the new kids had to kill the Daemon Corps digimon. Which given it was done in the real world, it was a permadeath kill. Which really mucked with the new kids up a bit.

AND THEN THERE'S TAMERS--

therealjarkes.bsky.social•192 days ago

Or for that matter the whole reason Wizardmon was a ghost in season 2 was because his death was a real-world permadeath.

filmcriticmaybe.bsky.social•191 days ago

I love Gravity Falls deeply and has a lot of layers but a its core it's KidzBop Simpsons with some cryptid and Twin Peaks-esque narrative conventions for flavour

kaiafterkai.bsky.social•192 days ago

Hell yeah Transformers Prime is for kids. That show was the shit when I was 11.

historysraven.bsky.social•192 days ago

I just start throwing copies of "Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark" and point out they are "children's literature".

mgcsleepycat80.bsky.social•192 days ago

I do remember that through much of the mid to late 90s Nickelodeon had a prohibition on the use of the word dead (i.e. Chucky's mom on Rugrats was just "gone").

angelgoodwin.bsky.social•191 days ago

They have slipped up at S&P on Hey Arnold, allowing mild language and of course death, dead and died were part of the words that slipped into the show.

mgcsleepycat80.bsky.social•191 days ago

As I recall, it went into effect somewhere around 1995-96 (there were episodes of shows that were produced before that where "dead" was used). It then got relaxed in the early 2000s as an episode of As Told by Ginger used it.

mgcsleepycat80.bsky.social•191 days ago

I remember reading it on a Rugrats website that had a massive "History of Nickelodeon" section on it.

angelgoodwin.bsky.social•191 days ago

They also had, oddly enough, a prohibition on the word "pregnant" at Nickelodeon, but that, too, slipped past S&P on Hey Arnold.

teothebaldo.bsky.social•192 days ago

Besides the obvious "i need to pretend this is adult or else i'll feel embarassed to admit i like it" effect, i think there is also a "i underestimate how much a kid can absorb about complex life topics even tho their brain is made for learning"

bflgriffon.bsky.social•192 days ago

It always reads as someone who is insecure in their taste when the simple fact is yeah, a lot of media intended for kids is really cool

lilmissemchick.bsky.social•191 days ago

Or a bad fanfic that the fandom clings too

gibbsmoryss.bsky.social•192 days ago

I was ... let's say bemused by the couple Adventure Time segments I've seen. Then I remembered having fun with Ren & Stimpy, Animaniacs and Rocko's Modern Life back in the day.

waitingforthetrade.bsky.social•191 days ago

That’s pretty silly. Kids’ shows deal with all of sorts of stuff, doesn’t change their target audience. I mean, Bluey’s mom had a miscarriage and that show could not possibly be more for children.

wimpyimpy.bsky.social•192 days ago

And it's always people who watched said show as kids, trying to act better than everyone else.

windupangelwings.bsky.social•192 days ago

there's a reflex in people who just don't want to branch out their media diet to make it seem like the stuff they like is actually for them, "shows made for adults icky and bad, the kid shows are for real grown-ups" because otherwise they have to contend with admitting they only watch stuff for kids

windupangelwings.bsky.social•192 days ago

while there's *some* merit to the notion that this stuff can sometimes be more genuine and less jaded, or spell out its themes in more clear terms, because of the target audience, it often just boils down to "i don't wanna watch grown up stuff, the owl house is the REAL grown up show"

eldritchhorrors.bsky.social•192 days ago

This has always been so interesting to me. It's like in their minds kids don't deserve complex storylines. Do they expect all kids programming to be as deep as Caillou?
I'm glad I got to enjoy AtLA and TCW as a kid, and they're still enjoyable today.

jay-holopainen.bsky.social•192 days ago

Same vibe as “Animation is not for kids”

(Images of four movies meant for kids)

turbohotdog.bsky.social•191 days ago

Well I was holding off on posting the hardcore sex scene from the Bionicle show but if you insist

amandawtwong.bsky.social•192 days ago

You are correct

robotpigeon.bsky.social•192 days ago

I think Tiktok non-ironically caused that shift

craigstaley.bsky.social•192 days ago

Oh my goodness! What will we do if children discover that people can die? I was hoping they would believe that people were immortal until they turned 18!

thatzommy.bsky.social•192 days ago

imagine being so insecure about enjoying a well-made piece of art that you feel driven to convince people it's actually very Mature and Adult and Not For Kids. couldn't be me (it has been me)

homestar.bsky.social•192 days ago

One of my favorite types of post will always be someone being like “you seriously think this game is for kids? Then how do you explain this” followed by a picture of a Kirby game in which the final boss is an eye or something

elephant.kim•192 days ago

I feel like the whole thing of "Kirby games start off so fun but then the final bosses are EVIL and FUCKED UP GODS" got way worse as people who don't play the games started doing it, the actual sensible Kirby players know it's usually just cool and sick as hell

homestar.bsky.social•192 days ago

Anyway Kirby is awesome we stan Kracko in this household

towndarling.bsky.social•192 days ago

kirby is rad! it has really cool endings and lore but it’s not because it’s a fucked up game for grownups it’s because kids like cool shit too

towndarling.bsky.social•192 days ago

i’m a dedede fan myself

homestar.bsky.social•192 days ago

Dedede is legitimately one of the contenders for one of my favorite characters in everything, ever, he's just so well-balanced between being an entertaining antagonist and heartfelt friend guy

Also he has the best personal theme song in like all of video games

towndarling.bsky.social•192 days ago

i’ve been playing forgotten land again and that final cutscene with him losing the mask, recognizing Kirby, and throwing the waddle dee into the elevator is just perfect, i love how much characterization they squeeze into about 45 seconds

chipklip.bsky.social•192 days ago

Reminds me the extra super boss version of Marx from super star ultra was supposed to be in the original but they cut him for being “too scary” meanwhile he’s just swagged tf out

snazlazzle.newgrounds.com•192 days ago

any sort of fear i felt when seeing 02 in kirby 64 instantly went away when i found out how fucking boring and easy the fight is and how the "fake" final boss is actually more mechanically interesting and difficult

blizzic.bsky.social•192 days ago

gdmilkman.bsky.social•192 days ago

I think I'm glad I have no idea what you're talking about.

Please nobody educate me on others' dumb internet opinions!

gurdim.bsky.social•191 days ago

... uhm a show goes out of the "for kids" field cause there is the word die? :O

nurayattila.bsky.social•192 days ago

‘This is for kids? Explain this’ the Disney/Nickelodeon existential moment. But C’est Pas Sorcier? It taught me the joy of discovery—a gift I now share with my daughter every day. 🌟 #CuriosityForAll #CestPasSorcier #SingleParentChronicles #KidsShows #WonderInLearning”

reflectionpool.bsky.social•192 days ago

"Piglet's Big Game is a game for kids" "Okay, then how do you explain all the heffalumps and woozles lurking in the shadows?"

reflectionpool.bsky.social•192 days ago

Also, maybe the show runners wanted to make something that, while primarily intended for kids, could be enjoyed by parents/ older siblings too. So many cartoons have jokes or innuendos that make no sense to an 8y/o but the parents will get it and it lets them bond over the show together.

justin91.bsky.social•192 days ago

People have such low standards for kid's media these days that doing that legitimately is amazing to some of them

killertune41.bsky.social•192 days ago

On top of people feeling insecure about liking children's media, it also shows how adults seriously underestimate children and what they can or can't handle.

vanoreo.bsky.social•192 days ago

at least amphibia had a child get stabbed directly through the chest on screen

civilianlillian.bsky.social•191 days ago

I recently started watching Transformers Animated from the 00s and I heard someone mention cancer as in the illness and first I thought to myself "bold move for a kids show" and then had to question my life and how I got here.

My only viable excuse is I grew up on 4Kids-dubbed shows.

farlas816.bsky.social•192 days ago

baro.bsky.social•191 days ago

"it's not for kids, a couple episodes were actual rated PG-13" my brother in Christ what do you think the 13 in PG-13 stands for?

janego.bsky.social•192 days ago

You're laughing? A piano just fell on Bugs Bunny, replacing his teeth with piano keys and you're laughing?

tonicky.bsky.social•192 days ago

I want someone to do this with adult shows like "Are you telling me this show is for adults" and then showing a scene of Star Trek where characters learn a moral lesson.

mintzbuck.bsky.social•192 days ago

sleepysteve55.bsky.social•191 days ago

"Die"

-Pikachu

funnyletter.bsky.social•192 days ago

As someone who ugly-cries at episodes of Bluey with disturbing regularity, I want everyone to know that it can be FOR kids but also contain a lot for adults.

ameliarosewrite.bsky.social•191 days ago

Phineas and Ferb was the master of this. They managed to do an episode where the subtext was that Doofenshmirtz was having an affair, and one where he was definitely deeply stoned, and they did it in a way that was funny for kids but REALLY funny for adults

vindalf.bsky.social•192 days ago

ReBoot was just fine. 🤣
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZwTQzEe6QQ

nillbewton.bsky.social•191 days ago

I perform in kids cartoons and we sometimes get told we can't say "gosh" because it's too close to the word god 🤦‍♂️

lunasy.bsky.social•192 days ago

for kids: die
4kids: destroy

ryfangor.bsky.social•192 days ago

The people would lose their dang minds at The grim adventures of Billy and Mandy

tomboypepsilove.bsky.social•192 days ago

Aside from the obvious of ppl wanting to validate their interests as adult or mature, I think ppl also severely underestimate what kids media is allowed to get away with while still being for kids

Kid horror books are a big thing and ppl die in them, but that doesn't stop them from being for kids!

spacy.gay•192 days ago

people recently have gotten this obsession with justifying anything they like or dislike in the most "objective" way possible and i don't get it. Like, it's okay for the kids cartoon to be a kids cartoon, and it's fine to like a kids cartoon

hazelazureus.bsky.social•192 days ago

the original transformers movie involved the horrific wartime deaths of every character everyone liked within 4 minutes of its opening sprawl

and it fucking ruled

primarylupine.bsky.social•191 days ago

I still get weepy when I hear Vince DiCola's music for Optimus Prime.

Fun thing is, Hasbro planned the same sort of thing for G.I. Joe, to clear out "old" characters, and bring in new ones. After seeing how many kids imploded emotionally over Prime, they put Duke in a "coma" for the movie.

wiggirl.bsky.social•192 days ago

There's absolutely nothing wrong with enjoying kids media (I love tons of it, too) but I do think it's a little embarrassing to be like "no don't you get it it's actually for adults". I love pokemon but you'd never catch me saying it's not a kids series.

aboxofspoons.bsky.social•192 days ago

I think a weirdly large amount of people on the internet have trouble with the idea that it’s fine to enjoy something you aren’t the core target audience for. It’s like there’s a pressure to convince people (and themselves) that it actually IS for them specifically.

wiggirl.bsky.social•192 days ago

That said if you're only consuming kids/teen stuff I do think you're missing out on a lot of good things.

dreadwin.bsky.social•192 days ago

I remember bronies trying to prove My Little Pony was badass and made for adults by posting innuendos, out of context clips, and that Tirek fight

lordakiyama.bsky.social•192 days ago

It's interesting seeing how taken aback some folks were with The Lion Guard being all dramatic and rather serious for a show developed for Disney Junior.

alias-wolfgang.bsky.social•192 days ago

People should have some faith in what kids can handle. All of my favorite shows as a kid were for children, make no mistake, but they were the ones that never felt like they were talking down to me. I'd guess it's probably true today that kids still don't like media that treats them like kkds.

i-am-erk.bsky.social•192 days ago

all of these media *do* treat them like kids, anyway. They introduce complex topics through filters that allow kids to process them. Done right, that's what makes a show like ATLA such a classic... not that it's not for kids, but that it does this and *is* for kids.

i-am-erk.bsky.social•192 days ago

Similarly, my kids are into the Wings of Fire books. The books deal with all kinds of topics related to child abuse and narcissistic parents, genocide, death, and war... but anyone who argues they're not kids' books should read some adult books to see how these topics are handled at a higher level.

5007-574in3d.bsky.social•192 days ago

Often, those topics are handled poorly by "adult" books.

There shouldn't be any shame in watching/reading/playing something made for less experienced people. Which is exactly what children are - people who lack experience.

i-am-erk.bsky.social•192 days ago

yes, I meant 'adult books that handle them at a higher level' specifically. Children's media can also do itpoorly, quality is independent of target demo.

I do think though that "this show isn't for kids" implies that the person hasn't read anything deeper on these topics at a higher level (cont)

i-am-erk.bsky.social•192 days ago

(cont) There's certainly nothing wrong with enjoying media like this. I have a stressful enough day life, I spend a lot of time watching and reading YA material to let my mind chill out. The best YA material will always appeal to all ages.

5007-574in3d.bsky.social•192 days ago

That said, just because something is in the style of children's media, it doesn't mean it was made for children.

I definitely wouldn't show Venture Bros. to a kid.

alias-wolfgang.bsky.social•192 days ago

I hate seeing a typo on the literal last word as I am hitting the reply button.

blitzthedragon.bsky.social•192 days ago

Brain absolutely rotted by post-Elsagate keyword automodding.

jennvalfyi.bsky.social•192 days ago

Bring up Quiet On The Set level entertainment industry child abuse and suddenly they'll be "that's just humor. Not everything is that deep."

eagre.bsky.social•192 days ago

Some folks will never grasp that shows being appropriate for children doesn’t mean that they should only be enjoyed by children, so they pretend the show in question isn’t appropriate for children. It’s weird

z66420.bsky.social•192 days ago

Okay but VLD tho. My god.that scene of Pidge crying at her brothers grave is forever etched in my Brain.🥲

csaltplusplus.bsky.social•192 days ago

I feel people mix up real maturity in shows with just dark content and feel the need to justify themselves liking something meant for children. Enjoy that shit I certainly do but stop acting like it’s some ultra dark melodrama lol

thejayofspade.bsky.social•192 days ago

"Object Shows are made for babies"

Okay explain this!

*picture of a cartoon pair of scissors*

dinkydaduke.bsky.social•192 days ago

I think there is something about the maturity of people who primarily consume children's media. If you feel the need to lie about what you watch, maybe just watch something else? I love cartoons and pro wrestling. It's childish as hell, and I ain't ashamed to say it.

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