And if Canada decided that they weren't saying sorry to us anymore and occupied the US, then put all of Boston, New York, Chicago, and LA into an open-air concentration camp for two decades with multiple incursions and bombings over the period, you'd feel a certain way about that.
IDF routinely bombed and shot people in the humanitarian corridor. They've cut off supplies β including humanitarian aid from the US government β from reaching civilians in the north of the Strip. War crimes, and actions that under US law, should force the US to stop sending weapons but hey.
I posit that this whole conflict is contrived to provide a thin veneer of legitimacy to the ethnic cleansing happening in Gaza right now. IDF destroying civilian buildings is a war crim, and they're on video unnecessarily shooting at or demolishing people's homes. This is but one of many.
This would be like the rest of the developed world cutting off ties to the US because Trump won. It's ridiculous. And when the Israelis only answered Palestinians with bombs, of course it was going to be a feedback loop. Sooner or later, direct action was going to happen. Israel had to know this.
The people of the Strip felt that the PLO wasn't advancing their interests because of this situation, and Hamas took advantage of that gap. Israel's response was to cut off any possibility of working with the government there, punishing a βwrongβ political decision.
This is what has happened in the West Bank and the Strip. Israel has slowly encroached on those territories with settlements, and there have been multiple military offensives into those areas under the guise of security, each time turning the proverbial screws more.
It's the fault of the guy 2 doors down for joining a boxing club and having lots of mates who will back him up. If the boxing club didn't expand into the neighborhood, I would not have been provoked into annexing your land, blowing up your shed and garage, killing your son and raping your daughter
Too many contradictions with the Rt. wing, even LIES. Ukraine is settled. We entered into a Treaty with Ukraine. You can get the word out, I've been trying, nobody is doing it. Our Treaty with Ukraine, they need help, we help. Putin reneged on the Treaty, hence war. Are you a LIAR and BETRAYER?
It's not actually a whataboutism, if the person asking cares about both Ukraine and Palestine. It's just trying to keep the energy of emancipation and self determination going to all people's.
It's not equivalent. Ruzzia accuses Ukraine of "attacking russian speakers in Donbas" (completely fabricated Kremlin BS). Ukraine never had an October 7 moment against russia.
So this topic needs to be handled separately and not used as a distraction.
Well I'm not exactly a right winger but if somebody came into my home uninvited. They'd leave with a few extra holes in them. And before any of you go well what if you're sleeping my dogs will react before they can get to the door. And I never leave my wireless hole puncher out of reach.
I've tried using a similar argument. How would you like it if your neighbor one day just decided to start building an addition on to their house and it stretched halfway into your yard and they knocked down your garage or something? I guess that would be cool, but it's different when it's them
aww who wouldn't want a murder camping out in the living room legally? π prepping to finish the job. good luck sleeping.
we all really dropped the ball with crimea but i think that's sort of the way the west/democracies work. "hmm it's bad but...do we have to do something? let's wait a bit..."
Right wingers always talk about repelling an invasion of occupiers, not losing their culture, and arming the citizens against tyrannical governments. They're describing Ukraine. Yet they're too scarred to follow through on their own ideals.
Sad thing is it would actually have to happen directly to them for them to consider caring. To them life is like SchrΓΆdinger's Cat, it exists in a state of either experiencing it personally or it never happens/doesn't matter.
John don't forget a shout out to the ultra left Democrats who "stayed home" on election day because they couldn't bring themselves to support a candidate that wasn't as radical as they were and oh, let's not forget all the "minorities" who protest voted and now face deportation.
Be honest, John.
Pbbbttttt bullshit question. Werent mah kid to begin with, and I don't give a shit what they do to mah sister. Plus it's mah momma's trailer that aint got but two rooms and ones fer momma's night work.
And fer starters, no wait I said that already. Where's that goddamn booklet I fergot mah lines.
Or you could grow up and realize that those two groups of religious savages are not going to stop till one has killed off the other. They have been trying it my whole life and they will never stop till one "loving" religion exterminates the other "loving" religion.
Youβve obviously never been to Israel. I wonder if you could even find it in a map. Although it does exist, religious extremism is not the norm in Israel. I wish I could say the same for Israelβs neighbors in the ME.
It seems to be the norm right now. This whole slaughter is because one side thinks God love them more than the people down the road. Both sides are killing children because they believe they are more loved by God. It is blood for their blood God.
Absolutely not. But I understand that innocent people unfortunately are killed in wars, especially when βleadershipβ starts a war and then uses their own people as shields to defend themselves.
You're one obtuse idiot obfuscating one for the other. Bibi netahoe (whatever his bitch ass last name) is very complicit of what has been happening in Israel/Palestine.
Start the #resistance in your city, gather friends and family. Organize a march or a protest.
Remember to remain NON-VIOLENT.
Use your voice and your pen.
Teach the girls how to fight dirty. (YBMC)
Teach boys to respect/protect women.
There is no time to lose! Start NOW.
Great analogy! Although, when I started reading and saw the word, βrapedβ, I thought this was going to have something to do with Trump. Why do you suppose that is? π€·π»ββοΈ
An invasion is an invasion, in your home, in your neighbors, in Ukraine. When is it too far away for you to care; When is it so far away that wrong to no longer wrong. Putin is an invader a multi-home invader.
Our countries should be doing more to stop evil from growing.
If itβs their pastor or a Republican they like they would divorce their wife and put her on the street for seducing the man and forgive him for killing the kid because accidents happen.
I'm a Republican. This site angers me bc y'all just pass the same propaganda & block any diff of opinion, even if it's civil. I'm not MAGA.
ABC didn't cave. It was a smart move. George messed up. They'd be dragged for months as network of misinfo & lose in court anyway. He said the wrong thing.
Wait! Arenβt many here trying to insulate themselves after the left X / Twitter whatever? And, republican here and no fear whatsoever of engaging in rational, intelligent conversations. BTW, I am of the opinion that name calling has no place in intelligent conversations.
Let's believe in our Pro-democracy movement and start working right now to elect state and local pro-democracy candidates. Let's organize now to prepare to win the midterms in 2 years! No time to waste!
Make Trump a lame duck asap!
Let's believe in our Pro-democracy movement and start working right now to elect state and local pro-democracy candidates. Let's organize now to prepare to win the midterms in 2 years! No time to waste!
Make Trump a lame duck asap!
And everyone can see that he's running out of road. Syria just fell. Cuba can't fuel planes. His recruiters are going after migrant workers because no more Russians want to fight. If Trump decides to capitulate, Europe and NATO should tell him to fuck off and keep the pressure up themselves.
Amen! #MAGAFascists actually want the American military to be shit! They're going to try to make it that way. He's gonna ban transgender & let #Nazis in!
The people of Ukraine have been through hell. They didnβt ask for any of what happened to their free country. They have fought for their freedom. Putin is an evil dictator who should have been stopped. There is NO excuse for ever believing otherwise.
Let me get this straight: russians under Stalin literally replaced Ukrainans in Donbass, became the majority in that region and now they want tΓ² separate from Ukraine. Ok seems legit...
Now hear my proposal: russians get the fuck out of Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea and let Ukraine be ruled by itself
"They persecute Ukrainians nazis"? I'm tired to hear this bullshit propaganda. Putin putain invaded Ukraine only because he wants control over Donbass resources. I'm tired to hear you pro-russian rats.
More likely they will be hunched over their computer/phone re-posting anything from Space Karen or the Cheeto, whilst cackling about "owning the liberals".
We are literally being asked to bring murderers and rapists into our sanctuary communities every day. Sounds like if you hate Putin's war, you should oppose forced integration of illegal immigrants into our society.
You do know the vast majority of murderers and rapists in the US are home grown. You may be quite comfortable believing the lies you've been fed, but don't embarrass yourself by regurgitating them.
Howabout instead of being the thing you hate you try this instead.
Dear rightwing American. There is more that unites us than that divides us. We're all worthy of respect. Put aside your hate and fear and come join us while we eat the rich.
Nope. They had their chance to be normal humans with values, ethics, and morals and theyβve failed miserably and repeatedly. Fascism must not ever be tolerated.
Wait, but this goes against everything Conservatives stand for. Republicans and Tories also honor, cherish, protect and help relocate pedophile Christian Priests to new communities so they can harm more children and call their parents instigators and liars.
They're saying what they're told to say. Notice how MAGA never has a bad thing to say about fascists and nothing good to say about democratically elected leaders who want to help the people they serve.
Let me draw you a picture. The Russians are bad guys. The Republicans are bad guys. They are allied. They are predators looking for prey and they think we're it. They aren't stupid. They are evil.
I'm sending a lot of bravo. Now nobody can't say he didn't "understand" (on which side the crime is or blood flows). But what to bring the urgent change needed in this war? To deliver ALL WEAPONS AS ALLIES TO UKRAINE?
If you haven't acknowledged the Budapest Memorandum by now, and you have zero appreciation for Ukrainians who fight the ruzzians who want to kill you, then you're intentionally helping on the side of a genocidal oil mafia named ruzzia.
You didnβt even read articles within the list that you provided. You are relying on Wikipedia editors which there is a particular bias for Georgia. This is from the CIA talking about Georgian chauvinism & they predicted considerable violence erupting periodically in 1990. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0005424739.pdf
Georgian chauvinism was a problem that was reported in the early 1990s causing problems for non-Georgians. The left bank wanted to administratively separate in 1990 from Moldova SSR but were denied by Gorbachev the same year. These have nothing to do with Putin.
Along with Russiaβs invasion in 2014 of Ukraine. The conflicts that erupted into wars in the 90s had more to do with Stalin & the administrative lines of the union republics didnβt come out well for everyone.
You have 1990s conflicts that you blurred together with Putinβs reign. You talk about homework when you have done none. You threw Tajikistan in which Russia did not attack all of Tajikistan. It was a civil war between the old communist leadership and the Pamiris & Gharmi wanting representation
democrats treated liberals like crap for 40 years to get trump. And now they want to make being hamas a death sentence, while they call us hamas for not being genocidal maniacs. harris has the demeanor bearing and values of a fascist prosecutor. you have to start by running liberals
In politics, there have to be compromises, unfortunately. I wish the Democratic party were more progressive, but there are an awful lot of people out there who are not on board with progressive policies.
40 years democrats promised us justice for the war against hilary, then they turn nazi at the last mionute and cheat for trump to shut us up. Now their answer is they are too scared to think. Well im not scared, i think theiy are fakibg and all their credibility is gone. No compriomise
I haven't seen the slightest hint of compromise from trump. In fact he doubles down. Then wins.
Did you notice the best polls dems got before the election? When Walz doubled down on progressive policies and Kamala was going to look into price gouging. When that disappeared so did the voters.
That was also simply the time before Trump consolidated media messaging against Harris and Walz. As soon as all the media outlets began parroting Trump's absurd criticisms of Harris, she lost the messaging war.
I mean anybody who refused to vote for Harris is at fault for giving us Trump.
trump wasn't able to consolidate messaging is bc Harris and Walz plus likes of Buttigieg were beating him to the punch. It was the first time the fight was brought to him. Then changed tack, no Walz, all Cheney and centrism. Pressure released on trump and he took over again. Epic strategy fail.
If russia invaded Alaska and claimed it,
would the US concede it just to stop a war?!
Look in your own back yard, people!
The state of Alaska is a small jump for russia. Canada shares an arctic border with russia! If it goes unchecked, It CAN happen here! Wake up! Ukraine is just the beginning!
What if Mexico decides to invade and take back what was previously theirs?Occupy all the Spanish speaking border States, propogate their disinformation, educate,steal kids,set up their own elections,killing thousands upon thousands of unwilling Americans w the help of Iran, China, Nk?π€
Thereβs a bit in Red Storm Rising where an American tanker is surprised the West Germans are fighting the Russians for every little town, and heβs asked if heβd give up New York to retreat to Pennsylvania. Left unsaid is thatβs exactly what Washington did in 1776 - after fighting for NY.
Can't feel good about AMERICAβ’
lately. Politics is a septic tank, sports
is still a Roman circus and we make
movies celebrating villainy more than
heroism (Joker 2, Kraven, Venom, etc).
I've seen America abandon the Black
Community, the LGBTQ, the poor,
Women, now reason itself is abandoned?
No, itβs not the same at all. Thatβs what politicians want you to believe so that you will support the violent deaths of millions human beings and the wasting of billions of dollars.
This Trumper still sleeps in his childhood bed? I would think that was Russell Brand, but I'm sure he could afford a better bedroom situation than this.
Hahahaha, I have that photo for many years but never paid attention to the bed before, LOL! It's a bunk bed, right? You can attach a second one on top of it!π€£ And also that #RusselBrand reference deserves a follow!
This is a bit I don't know, like a straw-man. NATO made maneuvers which Russia severely did not like, and Russia responded aggressively, its more-so a tragedy than a clear belligerent bad guy, is Putin bad? Yes. Are the politicians who gain money from this bad? Definitely. Is it only Russia? No.
Do I think they should join NATO, yeah why not, would that incite a war? Yeah. The citizens of Ukraine certainly have suffered the political movements between NATO and Russia, the only winners are the people at the top.
I'll break it down into the simplest terms since you don't get what I'm saying - Ukraine is a former member of the USSR, NATO was formed to fight against Russia, Russia views Ukraine and other former USSR countries as its own, NATO claims a former USSR country, Russia attacks. Can be prevented.
The USSR is no more. Ukraine is an independent country and can do as it wishes.
NATO has not made any claim to Ukraine at all nor any other country, NATO doesn't claim anything.
Putin is the aggressor for his own agenda.
You not understanding that changes nothing.
Well I mean they did, they knew Russia would invade when they made a move to make Ukraine join NATO, I don't see how as soon as NATO begins the process Russia immediately reinforces their forces in the border, it's simply the way it is.
In fact the opposite is true. Ukraine had asked about NATO mbshp several times sice '08. It had neither been given nor promised. There was not unanimous support in NATO.
Putin gave Ukne ultimatum to spurn plans to join, Ukne refused. Putin attacked bacause Ukne WERE NOT in NATO 1/
Because if he wanted an illegal land grab of Ukne territory knew he had to do it before they joined NATO, because NATO has an 'all for one' policy - if he waited he'd get anihilated.
So he attacked specifically because Ukne is not in NATO.
What? Your second statement is in complete dissagreement to your first, you say there was no plans for membership in ukraine, then you say putin gave an ultimatum to ukraine so that they stop having plans to join NATO, which is exactly what im telling you
There was support within NATO, there was not support within Ukraine, Ukraine itself called for a national referendum to stop themselves from joining NATO, now why would they do that? US also supported ukraine joining NATO, just take a look at this article. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/02/nato.georgia
Excellent points. All Putin really wants is his Soviet era country back. If he keeps bombing nuclear power plants he wonβt be able to feed his county with irradiated wheat.
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Adolph Hitler, after being given Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland.
All war crimes.
I use the same analogy when I hear idiots talk about how Ukraine is being unreasonable by not seating and negotiating with Putin! π
They got the South Korean soldiers to stop watching porn long enough to get themselves killed for Putin.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/17/several-hundred-north-korean-troops-killed-fighting-ukraine-says-us-official
Apparently
That's called Whataboutism and it's for cowards
Thx
So this topic needs to be handled separately and not used as a distraction.
Ukraine is kickin Putin's A$$ right now. Maga better cash in their rubles.
we all really dropped the ball with crimea but i think that's sort of the way the west/democracies work. "hmm it's bad but...do we have to do something? let's wait a bit..."
Love @johnfugelsang.bsky.social
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We promised to defend Ukraine in return for them giving up their nukes.
End of fucking story.
Be honest, John.
And fer starters, no wait I said that already. Where's that goddamn booklet I fergot mah lines.
Replace the word βPutinβ with βHamasβhere, and be wary of your position at the bottom of the horseshoe. https://study.com/academy/lesson/horseshoe-theory-meaning-history-examples.html
https://i.imgur.com/Df1aAqA.jpg
https://youtu.be/cQDCRLJHRTc?si=CXNpphJ2PA7KDQsB
Remember to remain NON-VIOLENT.
Use your voice and your pen.
Teach the girls how to fight dirty. (YBMC)
Teach boys to respect/protect women.
There is no time to lose! Start NOW.
Here have my kitchen and living room said no-one ever when there house has been invaded.
Slava Ukraine πΊπ¦ πͺ
See what the current "left wing" gov't is doing abroad?
Same sh*t!
They're BOTH playing y'all!
We fell asleep when we got spoiled.
Ignore human rights in the rest of the world? You might as well lose your own!
As the grip of narco-militarism tightens around our necks,
We're worried about burning flags.
And pee in jars at work, to keep our jobs.
1/
Do you think your neighbors, would even care?
DO YOU THINK YOUR NEIGHBORS, WOULD EVEN CARE?"
- D.O.A., "Full Metal Jackoff
Our countries should be doing more to stop evil from growing.
Echo echo echo echo echo
ABC didn't cave. It was a smart move. George messed up. They'd be dragged for months as network of misinfo & lose in court anyway. He said the wrong thing.
Make Trump a lame duck asap!
Make Trump a lame duck asap!
Sexism killed Hillary, killed Harris, and killed America.
Now hear my proposal: russians get the fuck out of Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea and let Ukraine be ruled by itself
They built rooms in Ukraine to rape & torture children.
They hurt Ukrainian children, so they would fear Russians far into the future.
Then they kidnapped some Ukrainian children and took them into Russia to make them Russian.
Dear rightwing American. There is more that unites us than that divides us. We're all worthy of respect. Put aside your hate and fear and come join us while we eat the rich.
reasoning never helped with them
Hell, give me the Neocons and Libertarians. I can at least get a handle on that nonsense.
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Get the point?
It will, ever never stop!
Think about it
(zero) right answer!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
Transnistria
Tajikistan
Chechnya
Dagestan
Georgia
South Ossetia
Abkhazia
Donetsk
Luhansk
Putin is a warmongering neo-Nazi thug.
Second Chechen War yes. May have orchestrated the 2008 War to happen together with Saakashvili as both are former KGB to harden everyoneβs resolve
Typical, that a Putin supporter is happy to distort actual reality in order to support his far-right nutjob.
The truth is just a few clicks away:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia
No offense meant, but you need to do your homework on them.
Did you notice the best polls dems got before the election? When Walz doubled down on progressive policies and Kamala was going to look into price gouging. When that disappeared so did the voters.
I mean anybody who refused to vote for Harris is at fault for giving us Trump.
would the US concede it just to stop a war?!
Look in your own back yard, people!
The state of Alaska is a small jump for russia. Canada shares an arctic border with russia! If it goes unchecked, It CAN happen here! Wake up! Ukraine is just the beginning!
lately. Politics is a septic tank, sports
is still a Roman circus and we make
movies celebrating villainy more than
heroism (Joker 2, Kraven, Venom, etc).
I've seen America abandon the Black
Community, the LGBTQ, the poor,
Women, now reason itself is abandoned?
GOOGLE & READ
International reports
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL πΊπ¦22
RED CROSS INTERNATIONAL πΊπ¦ JUNE 22
IAEA September 22
Not 1 accuses Russia
Not 1 in favour of πΊπ¦
π for all civilians, no matter their tongue
then the dumb people think trump is Jesus and Trump straight up threatens our allies, so why care, amirite?
it's fucking disgraceful. We have a president running a mafioso protection racket.
https://i.imgur.com/nIuNh2J.jpg
Putin wants power.n
NATO has not made any claim to Ukraine at all nor any other country, NATO doesn't claim anything.
Putin is the aggressor for his own agenda.
You not understanding that changes nothing.
Stop it.
Those are the facts.
Putin gave Ukne ultimatum to spurn plans to join, Ukne refused. Putin attacked bacause Ukne WERE NOT in NATO 1/
So he attacked specifically because Ukne is not in NATO.
they want to be the guy who breaks into the house.