Except we’re laughing at our own upcoming hardship with shortages of products in the coming weeks. We’re all losers in this deal, even if we knew it was coming and others did not
I remember when they screamed that covid lockdowns (always voluntary in America, not China) were hurting business, and now Trump the covid-denier is hurting business.
China is refusing to have its products hit with US 145% tariffs.
Other countries can buy from China, without tariffs.
So goods transit through another country, before reaching US.
Canada does impose 100% tariffs on Chinese electric cars, though.
Chinese products will enter the US from Third party countries like the UAE or Vietnam, Thailand etc. China will ship to those countries and those countries will put the products in new boxes and then they will enter the US tariff free.
Do you mean that since there aren't enough orders from the US, given the tariffs, they're using them elsewhere? Like, vessels once dedicated to the US route?
Not exactly. Ships have been rerouted to other countries, to avoid Dump's 145% tariffs. Goods from China might make their way to US from another country than China, which means that a lesser % of tariffs would be applied.
I mean, I would think only things that have been ordered would be shipped to any country, including the US, so wouldn't rerouting them mean those orders go unfilled? I also think perhaps cargo manifests might get in the way of trying get around the tariffs by using a different port to ship from, no?
I understand how tariffs work & that was part of my point. You said something about avoiding tariffs & I'm saying tariffs are on the product itself, so how does a ship coming from somewhere else w/ Chinese goods do anything? That's what it sounded like you said might happen. Maybe I got that wrong.
Trumptards: "tArIfFs aRe gOoD, hIgH PrIcEs aRe aWeSoMe, EmPtY StOrE ShElVeS ArE ThE BeSt, UnEmPlOyMeNt iS GrEaT, uNsOlD SoYa bEaNs rOtTiNg iN ThE FiElDs aRe nEcEsSaRy"
I know but didn't Daddy Trump go on live TV and say this was good? You know cause now there is no deficit. If there is no trade there is no deficit and this is a good thing. bahahahah
Trump “this is a victory for our policies. If we are not buying stuff from them, we are not wasting money on things like whatever it is you put babies in”.
Only half the story: How many ships/trucks/box cars are leaving the US with US products? Canadians aren't the only ones boycotting US goods, travel or moving $ out of the US
Yep, the same tracking maps that Faux News uses to deceive the maggots with “ships are still coming” also allow you to click on the ship. You can see its class, and destination.
They are all going to Vancouver, Canada, or Mexico. It just LOOKS like they are headed to Seattle or San Diego😂
Well, the orange shit stain on humanity did bring us the pandemic, so why is everyone so surprised the fucking asshole is going to bring us the great depression 2, this time world wide.
She's a lawyer. Why isn't she suing Trump as a Public Nuissance ( like some opioid makers) for taking our enjoyment of our 14A rights of citizenship by his threats & actions that extort $ from companies & emoluments from foreign countries. Remedy by divesting his family's businesses that power thid
Why do Black folks always have to fix white racism shit? When are white people going to step up and say this is not right? When are YOU going to do what’s right?!
All because one old, fat ignorant ass pig of a man decided to tank the economy, so he could blame Joe Biden. Where are the guardrails? And why isn't Congress losing it's collective minds?
Congress isn't reacting because they're all fully stacked with all of their necessities. We, the people, will be the ones to have to learn to do without when the shelves are empty. It's beginning to seem like the government just doesn't give a damn about us. None of them care!!!
.. I'm just wondering which will be first ... The People "Find Out" in a few weeks when the shelves are empty any everything you can "buy" is twice as expensive.. Then freak out .... Or .. Traitordonny finds some excuse to Declare Martial Law and Democracy ends there ...
I think the MAGAs finally FO and join the RESISTANCE. Regardless, donny and his entire team will probably be removed in a violent REVOLUTION when Congress refuses to impeach!
This is what happens when you have an @$$hole running the country. This is a VERY hard lesson that it matters who is in charge. A narcissistic sociopathic racist is NEVER the answer. Hard lesson indeed.
Hope ya have all the jeans, electronics, sneakers, patio furniture, toys & strollers, shirts & dresses, machine tools, pots & pans, utensils, soccer balls and ball gloves, exercise bikes & pretty much everything you find at Walmart that you’re going to need the next couple of years. +#Recession
When we have OUR CANCER IN REMISSION, would you talk to your co-owners about making us your 11th province or 4th territory? We’d be honored to have an intelligent person leading us again! It’s been 6 months of CRAZY!
This hasn't hit home quite yet, as there is still unsold inventory. But as people become aware, they will begin hording goods, and scarcity and black market prices will develop. Every real world economist predicts this,and I think it's just common sense. If you can't have a cookie, you want it more.
Malcolm Nance said it on the radio back in late April. He said the last of the pre-tariff ships from China are due in May 10. Those arrived today in L.A. and Long Beach. The other ships have been diverted to Mexico. After that, I'm not sure what happens.
Yeah, I just watched some ass hat GOP congressman on CNN telling everybody this is hurting China more than the United States. China is laughing at the United States and Trump in particular. Trump lowers the tariff to 80%, well China is just looking and going “we got time”. Fuck Trump
People in China aren’t living on cheap American stuff. People in the United States thrive on stuff made in China. Things are about to change but sadly, I don’t think the right people are going to be hurt by this.
Remember when all those reichwingers were mad during covid because they couldn't get a haircut? Wait until they can't get the latest greatest flatscreen tv to watch reruns of the apprentice on.
I wonder what they tell themselves they're sacrificing for. Are they all eager to wreck their budgets so billionaires legally don't have to pay the taxes that they will just cheat on anyway?
I’m sure it’s fun if you’re a maga billionaire taking bets on how many Americans will die from this tyrannical government’s policies in 2025. I don’t doubt this madness is their version of Squid Game. 🤮
Whoops.. make America.. well the US an ‘island’.. I say that cause the administration/his cabinet/cult followers couldn’t pass a geography test or a civics test that a person being naturalized would have to pass.. US is on a continent, I think Americans forget that
My father used to tell me, "Remember, if the average IQ is 100, that means there are as many people with IQs of 80 as of 120." If I think about this a bit more, the likelihood is that there are three times as many people who have IQs of 90. They voted. Those folks can't begin to understand this.
I've written a LTTE of our weekly paper, encouraging folks to buy their gifts from local crafters and artists. Many of them use supplies they can find nearby. There is an economic storm coming, and by supporting our neighbors, we can all better weather it.
I'm looking forward to truckers joining us in the protests outside Rep. Ciscomani's office! They often toot their truck horns, but I'm looking forward to seeing them tote signs.
and it’s gonna be all the republicans running rampant around town with their shotguns stocking up on shit which leaves us the ones who voted against all this with nothing.
Fear not, Trump made it so you can eat a Mercedes or Rolls Royce ( yes you have a choice pick option ) for Christmas brunch!! Enjoy one and all tis the season of joy and another campaign promise kept!!!
Americans will see product shortages first. When store shelves start looking the way they did in 2020, hoarding and price gouging will ensue.
As small business begin to fail and people become increasingly desperate, the US will devolve into a nation where guns become more accessible than food.
During the height of the pandemic, this man from Tennessee was caught hoarding goods and price gouging on EBay/Amazon becoming the most hated man in America for about a month.
I remember that. That’s insane. I just pick up 1 or 2 extra items when they go on sale. I’ve been doing it for about a month in anticipation of what’s to come. I worked in BB during the pandemic. People were mean as hell. I had to talk my team off the ledge multiple times.
I remember when they told us “we’re all in the same boat” but that unraveled quickly as employees were forced to risk death by returning to work while their rich bosses sought isolation at Lake Tahoe and the Hamptons.
That’s when everyone realized we were in very different boats.
Instant economic pandemic in 100 days. Diverting tax money to rich people by eliminating services and infrastructure.
We keep saying we don’t have kings, but we can’t push back against this one.,
Well, that is on us then. We have treated Presidents like Kings long before Trump and we wonder why it ends up this way? His overarching and suffocating executive power is a result of multiple Presidents from both parties. Along with our constant deference and reliance mentally on the executive.
I remember when Obama signed a slew of executive orders after the Sandy Hook shooting, and conservative through a fit. But content matters, bud. Most of those were enforcing gun laws already on the books, including appointed someone in charge of the ATF, which was run by another agency head.
But Trump's EOs are on a whole other level of overreach. You can miss me with your "both sides" BS. This is all thanks to Project 2025. Trump's just slapping his signature on them and going golfing.
Fuck your "both sides" bullshit. That's a cop out post. We've had some bad moves by Bush Jr and Cheney, but they pale next to Elon and the orange fucktoad.
and you got nothing. So you can cuss good for you big boy. Sounds like you never opened a history book that went past 20 years ago. Big boy do you know what a third-way democrat is? Do you know the difference between a Reagan Republican and Rockefeller republican? You prob don't. So go play,
How one reeks of condescension. Fuck that. And yes to all your shit questions, I know the difference. And it still doesn't negate or undercut what is going on now.
It's a massive car pile on the interstate, & you're arguing about the color of the pavement and lines. Useful as ice cubes to a peguin.
If someone, anyone, other than Trump was president now, we would not be in this present situation, so no, that's not on us. This hasn't been done in 80 years. Most could be leaders are smarter than the lunatic who is president now, even if they are horrible in all other areas.
Yeah, it is on us. For electing the wrong people over consecutive decades. Being misguided by the myth of money and those who make it and letting it be involved and toxify every aspect of our daily lives. We have only been managing decline since the 80s while almost always buying into the wrong shit
So that is a no to any of those questions then? Cool. looks like you learned NOTHING in school. You people reveal your intellectual laziness by sitting there with insults.
Tell me what was the Washington Consensus? How did it impact the working class and how did it also turn democrat strongholds into maga strongholds? Can you answer that? if not go fucking play.
So another turd who doesn't know history. Go play sweetie. An adult is talking. If you have no room for actual debate and instead hurl insults go fuck off you child. You have the intellectual ability of a frog.
Can you answer what the washington consensus was? Can you also answer why democrat strongholds that were strongholds for decades have turned into MAGA strongholds the past 10 years? Can you actually answer anything or you just going to keep playing like an elementary kid?
Obama and Biden needed to rely those powers because Republicans had stopped legislating and turned to irrational opposition.
McConnell filibustered his own bill when he found out Obama liked it and would sign it.
What's trumps excuse with Senate, house, and scotus in his camp?
Trump is symptom not the disease itself. You think the polarization just came onto the scene in the last 10 years since Trump? This stuff goes back to at least the mid 90s with the Gingrich Revolt against the old guard republicans who actually did work with dems. Then each side dug in accordingly.
Next time do us both a favor and just call me a piece of shit instead of assuming what you don't fucking KNOW. You think i would suggest oh yeah lets work with the GOP because they are such great guys? I am appalled at your assumption.
So I would just like to say fuck you all. You made me think you all actually could comprehend shit and listen to reasoning instead of assuming who I am because I bring up some shit about ACTUAL fucking political history. Jesus fucking fuck you people for real.
and bro this not me saying work with them. What are you fucking stoned? i am saying this is the result of something. then you people start insulting me like fucking children when I am saying we need to examine how we got here. Not work with these fucking people.
It should also be noted that between 1954-94 the democrats controlled the house of representatives. So, most of what Reagan got done during that decade had their support. This in turn helped develop the Washington Consensus towards things such as trade which helped turn tons of places into dust.
Reagan was also a result of something. Reagan was the result of Nixon being speared by the left and essentially this helped lead the way for the Reagan Republicans to take the reins from the Rockefeller Republicans. The new deal democrats were laid out in the 1980s leading the way for the third-way
The system was broken long before Obama and Biden came onto the scene. As well the executive had too much power already before they came on the scene. The era you are referring to is such recent history it is just affirmation of my pt. Not a counter to it. My view is in decades not the last 3 terms.
We should look at this a bit differently then "what recession happened under what party." We have been losing economic primacy for DECADES. And this is what we are debating? Both parties are responsible. Since the 1960s we dropped a full two percent GDP growth and never recovered.
In the 1960s our avg GDP growth was 5.2 percent. By the next decade it had dropped to an average of 3 percent then 3.15 and 3.36 accordingly in the 80s and 90s. Now we jump for joy at a 2 percent growth. It is drowning us in lack of wage growth and economic primacy. Toxifying our pol system in turn.
I think he is saying the Reagan on were treated that way. When you study what they have gotten away with and how people looked the other way, you can see how this was slowly escalating.
and this is not me justifying it. This is me pointing out history and how we need to be honest about it or we won't understand how we actually got here nor how to fix this failing paradigm.
Is it? Did Lincoln not suspend Habeas corpus? Did he not totally shred the constitution? The difference is in the purpose and abuse of that purpose. FDR was the same way. he overrode so many parts of the constitution adding more and more to the executive power.
And for the stupid MAGA CULT folks: it's not just California not getting their "stuff", the entire country is not getting their stuff, and truck drivers, trains and planes don't deliver empty containers... and if they don't have anything to deliver they don't have jobs!
Hope magats have enough bootstraps to pull themselves up with, because I'm sure not sending any federal tax dollars to support the red states anymore. Fuck it! I'll pay the penalty when democracy rules the land again, until then zero federal taxes paid.
I made that suggestion in February or March thinking about how badly I did not want to send a check to the feds based on the way they were destroying our government already! It would have been great if we could have gotten as many people protesting to not pay their fed taxes!
I refuse! Fine me if you must, but I'll still not pay. I just really don't care anymore. I'm still paying into social security, Medicare, and state taxes. The fed government stole our money plain and simple. The moment I can stop paying into SS and Medicare I will as well. Make the billionaires pay!
Invite the current inhabitants of the whitest house to Los Angeles ports to count the ships and containers.
Never mind. He'd count backwards from "so many" and come up with "a lot"
Way to go, Donnie Diapers. That will show them. 340 million people in the most powerful, wealthiest country in the history of the world being ruled by a 350 lb. demented, intellectually disabled toddler with tertiary syphilis. Great job, America.
It's here y'all. Everything we tried to warn about happening IS happening. I take no pleasure in doling out "I told you so's." I just hope that we can undo this mess sooner rather than later.
And the sad part is that there are a lot of Maga morons in my part of the world that have no clue this is going on. I was standing in a group of them who were saying that things were about to get better. I pointed this little fact out to them. Utter silence.
Yep. They aren't going anywhere else either. This is how you win the trade "war". They can't eat that shit so this is why they are folding. Hide and watch.
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Hey blue ..... is that a clue
This is squarely on him….and everybody knows it.
What a disaster.
He's a fucking idiot.
No wonder he bankrupted 6 casinos.
Welcome to Dump's world.
Is US great yet?
Other countries can buy from China, without tariffs.
So goods transit through another country, before reaching US.
Canada does impose 100% tariffs on Chinese electric cars, though.
Yikes.
They are all going to Vancouver, Canada, or Mexico. It just LOOKS like they are headed to Seattle or San Diego😂
My $194 worth of items at CVS cost $156 after the discounts and coupons were applied.
I was unaware that aluminum-free Dove deodorant comes from Canada!
#VerifyTheVote
#election #TruthMatters #SecureTheMidterms
#Iowa #SwingStates
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He’s told us that has a PhD in Maritime Affairs and assures us that this is not happening.
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-118.4/centery:33.6/zoom:9
I am so glad we choose wisely with PM Carney and have a sane country to live in.
I am so sorry you guys have to go through this - it is really awful.
I will consult with the co-owners. 😀
‘Please, please. It’s too much winning. We can’t take it anymore, Mr. President, it’s too much.’
‘No it isn’t. We have to keep winning. We have to win more!’
Still waiting...or he's got a really weird definition of it.
I still wonder if that is the plan?
The enemy within
How much of the economic damage attributed to the pandemic was actually just Trump?
GET THE REAL FACTS AND PUT IT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF EVERY NEWSPAPER DAILY UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION!
EXPOSE THE CORRUPTION FOR ALL TO SEE!
EVERYONE, LET’S DO THIS!
I wonder what they tell themselves they're sacrificing for. Are they all eager to wreck their budgets so billionaires legally don't have to pay the taxes that they will just cheat on anyway?
There should be no tariffs. If he understood how they work it would maybe help.
When these voters in the south lose their low volume only store in town Walmart I’m going to be absolutely giddy over it. FAFO
Was good
Biden Took 4 years to create/build the best economy, the envy of the world.
tRump took 3 years to destroy it, down to chaos, he’s the inept 🤡 of the world.
0 x 145% = 0
The stable genius is at it again.
As small business begin to fail and people become increasingly desperate, the US will devolve into a nation where guns become more accessible than food.
I remember when they told us “we’re all in the same boat” but that unraveled quickly as employees were forced to risk death by returning to work while their rich bosses sought isolation at Lake Tahoe and the Hamptons.
That’s when everyone realized we were in very different boats.
Apparently heads are up own asses
We keep saying we don’t have kings, but we can’t push back against this one.,
It's a massive car pile on the interstate, & you're arguing about the color of the pavement and lines. Useful as ice cubes to a peguin.
Fine people on both sides
Issue. Shut up for fuck sake
Where the hell did you come up with that from?
You can't answer shit.
McConnell filibustered his own bill when he found out Obama liked it and would sign it.
What's trumps excuse with Senate, house, and scotus in his camp?
It came out in the open during Obama. Read Dr Heather Cox Richardson, it started with Reagan courting the evangelicals.
Yes, yes, how dare the democratic party not work hand in hand with the party that will fail the country just to spite the opposition.
Never mind. He'd count backwards from "so many" and come up with "a lot"
NOT Trump Recession.
Because Republicans in Congress could’ve stopped this, but bent over for Trump abandoning their duty
#RepublicanImportTaxes
NOT Trump import taxes aka tariffs
Republicans could’ve said no but didn’t so they OWN it
Don’t let GOP weasels off the hook
Morons to power!
So unfuckingbelievable
Says it’s great
https://www.myshiptracking.com/estimate?sort=TIME&page=1&pid=279 , you'll see a list of ships inbound. Picking a random candidate, https://www.myshiptracking.com/vessels/ym-upward-mmsi-636013691-imo-9337468, from CN, due in in about 9 hours.
“Why weren’t you wearing my MAGA hat”.
Trump is going to ask Xi for help.