Isn't the US base there only in place under NATO's agreement? If the USA were to leave NATO, surely they'd have to pack up and go back to their own country? They're tolerated there for mutual defence, nothing more.
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It's a separate agreement between the US and Denmark/Greenland since 1953. US has responsibility for external security on Greenland (as they requested) and has since the start of the Cold War. One of the ways in which the rhetoric makes no sense.
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I'd assumed that the NATO framework would have been the main reason of that, more of a private agreement to use someone else's driveway, with Greenland being a stop off between the two continents.
It still makes no sense to invade an ally, break up NATO and sow distrust.
100%. If the US were functioning normally, this wouldn't be on the cards. Only makes sense if Trump wants to sell off the resources there to wealthy supporters.
Trump's a greedy playboy with an infantile worldview and a failed education. He's shopping, not governing and his mentality is win/ lose with no understanding of compromise or mutual benefit. The status quo has been maintained because intelligent and well advised people were in charge. Idiocy reigns
No the base is there under a 1951 defense treaty between Denmark and the USA - “Agreement between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Kingdom of Denmark concerning the Defense of Greenland”
Thanks. Someone corrected me on that. Nevertheless, expanding that arrangement unilaterally in the USA's favour would presumably be an act against all NATO members by one, and admittedly the biggest, of their own. Similarly, pulling out of NATO and threatening to invade would also galvanise NATO.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to “re-correct”. For us in Denmark and Greenland it is important that you know that the US can have more bases and military personel in Greenland if need be. An invasion is not necessary. Your government knows, but appears to be obsessed with “territorial growth” or Lebensraum.
No apology needed. I'm British so I'm almost impartial with a concern as to who's next.
Their aim isn't more tactical positioning, it's empire building and expansionism for the sake of resources. It's what Europe did to Africa, Asia and the Americas in the 16-19thC, today almost classed as robbery.
Well, I think the Americans will have to do that themselves. What we can do is the let Trump and Musk know that we are not bending over, accepting their disturbed view on the world and basic democratic values. In this, Europe must stand as one -together with likeminded.
That's my point. If they leave NATO as they've threatened, any encroachment on NATO member's territory is an act against NATO (which doesn't need the USA to remain in force). Every NATO member would then be compelled to defend its ally against the aggressor.
They've not thought it through, typically
If the US leaves NATO could Greenland evict the US military and close the base? Because they should tell them to GTFO since the U.S. is basically threatening a hostile takeover.
That's a perfect analogy. It's business terms from a failed toxic brand merchant.
I doubt there's any oversight of what goes into that base. Full planes go in, empty ones may leave.
Frump hasn’t sold me. I need the FrumpGreenland video. Then I’m on board. Not the military one that’s going around. What a drag. Give me something with kids making snow men etc. Frozen on steroids.
Those bases are there to hold the line, to defend west from east. Actively bullying or attacking an ally, costing up to the same enemy they're there to counter, and expecting to have strategic holes to fly fighters and bombers from and ground troops? No chance. They're an active, entrenched threat.
Yes. The only reason the US is allowed to have that base there is because of a NATO agreement. If the US were to leave NATO, there is no reason for them to stay
Technically, it would be like the US allowing Japan to have an airbase in Hawaii in 1940
NATO allies have a very different understanding of history and the geopolitical climate during WWII and after than 🇺🇸. NATO allies fought on the ground in Europe, the 🇺🇸 entered WWII years later and continue to claim victory. NATO ALLIES VIEW 🇺🇸 as opportunistic, self-serving & untrustworthy.
At this point Canada has a case for having NATO members step in against the US due to its threats and actions to economically weaken Canada to force an annexation
Trump is following Putin’s playbook when he invaded Ukraine
US has bases all over the world. The cost alone of dismantling the NATO ones in Europe…
This is why we will never leave NATO: the cost to pack up, the loss of private contractors (who run the govt as the oligarchy), and US will be strategically at a disadvantage.
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It still makes no sense to invade an ally, break up NATO and sow distrust.
Their aim isn't more tactical positioning, it's empire building and expansionism for the sake of resources. It's what Europe did to Africa, Asia and the Americas in the 16-19thC, today almost classed as robbery.
I firmly think they should relocate the UN building to a country that isn't on a "do not travel" list for many of its members.
Allies simply do not threaten with invasion.
The big question is how we get rid of them.
Trump (and by extension the US) has threatened ALL of them
They've not thought it through, typically
I doubt there's any oversight of what goes into that base. Full planes go in, empty ones may leave.
BTW, Finland and Norway share borders with Russia. You’d lose bases there, as well as Germany, France…
Technically, it would be like the US allowing Japan to have an airbase in Hawaii in 1940
Trump as Emperor of North America
Putin as eyes are cast west as well as east
China through destabilisation of the West.
Trump's on first name terms with one of these (and he refers to himself as 'Trump').
Trump is following Putin’s playbook when he invaded Ukraine
This is why we will never leave NATO: the cost to pack up, the loss of private contractors (who run the govt as the oligarchy), and US will be strategically at a disadvantage.
Trump just runs his mouth
We should ask them to leave. Give them a week to pack up…which is rather generous when we think about the threats made.
Some kind if resource we are looking to steal.
But yeah Europe was foolish to allow us economic and military supremacy and here we are.
The monsters…