Needs another pass:
-Forgot Kullervo, the most important proto-Elric. Bigger influence than Conan
-Guts is an Elric even if Griffith has the looks
-"Hates family, except sister/female cousin that he loves" important bullet point, also comes from Kullervo. Would qualify Killua? maybe Sanji from OP??
oh my god
it is true
guts is an Elric more than a fucking conan
by far
by far
the whole point is that guts has to learn to be a part of a fucking dnd party MULTIPLE TIMES while Conan is gregarious and PARTY HARD
I should read more moorcock, actually. Jerry Cornelius shit is always fun
I got to Moorcock through Morrison
it was through morrison self insert in invisibles
who has a fictional self insert
who is just
jerry fucking cornelius
ive seen people compare guts more to corum than elric, given the commonality of losing an eye and hand, but corum and elric are incarnations of the same thing, so it still leads back to more or less the same place
Griffith also came from Elric. The bishonen archetype has its roots partially in theatre but the modern version was accidentally synthesized by Amano when he drew the Moorcock covers in the early 1980s, basing him on Björn Andrésen. Really it's Amano's Elric->Amano's Severian->All other bishonen.
I'd argue that while there's an aesthetic throughline, the "Elric" role in the narrative is firmly on Guts' shoulders: wayward member of a fallen order, bearer of a curse, brooding, cool named sword, relationships defined by his reticence to get close to others due to past trauma
I would argue that "sister complex Elric" is also original flavor Elric to the point that it's a signature feature. Dude has such a sister complex that it keeps being a problem for him in other lives
Oh absolutely. One of the things I was tempted to make a bullet point was "negative relationship with every family member except a female sibling/cousin, who he is weirdly close to." I think that comes from Kullervo which might be the ur-text here
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-Forgot Kullervo, the most important proto-Elric. Bigger influence than Conan
-Guts is an Elric even if Griffith has the looks
-"Hates family, except sister/female cousin that he loves" important bullet point, also comes from Kullervo. Would qualify Killua? maybe Sanji from OP??
it is true
guts is an Elric more than a fucking conan
by far
by far
the whole point is that guts has to learn to be a part of a fucking dnd party MULTIPLE TIMES while Conan is gregarious and PARTY HARD
Ironically, the Elric brothers are VERY MUCH not Elrics
I got to Moorcock through Morrison
it was through morrison self insert in invisibles
who has a fictional self insert
who is just
jerry fucking cornelius
who is ALSO an Elric
Kvothe?