morons are increasing, but have been a good chunk of the demographics for decades. the problem is failsafe to prevent morons from casting wrong ballots was removed by the chief justice.
I was born and raised in Ohio, you are correct, they are morons! I left over 30 years ago and I will never go back. My dad made me promise to never go back there. My dad was a democrat.
Crazy. I wonder why the “egg” temporary hardship didn’t get more of a following. I mean these are the people most likely to have their own chickens and yet they were bitching the loudest over egg prices. #CherryPickingForTheStupid
I haven't had a drink, with the exception of a beer with my daughters at a hockey game last year, in six or seven years. But I'm with ya! I'm thinking about picking up a fifth.
Hang in there, just fight a new fight day by day.
Take mental health breaks & enjoy old or new hobbies.
The admins purpose is to overwhelm everyone with lies, dismantling of agencies & Tariffs. Find a group of people who share your goals and meet every week or two if possible.
Patriot radio is a right wing secret weapon. My MAGA brother quotes from the shows constantly. Obsessed with trans people even though he never knowingly met one.
I work with a sales guy who thinks Elon is a genius, racism is fake (even though he’s dropped the N word on me), and all “woke” women are just man haters. He hasn’t sold a damn thing and is about to lose his job. He’ll blame me for his incompetence. Go Patriot radio, breeding victims everywhere.
They are hearing it now, but not yet truly experiencing it. We’ll see if it sticks when they’ve lost the little they still have. When you do not have math skills, you cannot anticipate a home budget reduction.
Exactly! My neighbor is all in on the pain this reset is causing. I asked him what was so wrong with the previous economy that we needed to totally blow it up, and he had no answers.
While they enjoy a safe home and community, clean water, fresh air, an abundance of food, and opportunities much of humanity can only dream of, they want you to know how awful and unfair life has been.
I drove through Delta this week - plenty of “This is Trump country” banners. They talk about it not being safe - there’s literally nothing there. No one is coming to Delta, so if it’s “not safe” it’s because of them! Exhausting reading these “Trump voter in a diner” pieces.
Sorry Mary Miller (see article) hard-working Americans won’t be working if Trump gets his way:
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on the US trying to take chip manufacturing from Taiwan: “Why can't those be made with ROBOTICS in America?” (Business Insider, April 3, 2025)
This is what you see with all of them. The selfish mindset which has been cultivated by fox and maga cult is going to be tested when they suddenly find themselves on the receiving end of everything.
In that moment I don’t even think they would blame trump either.
These victims of the purposeful propaganda that has been promoted, yet online media, influencers and politicians aren't held accountable for spreading the lies. Laws exist that should have existed for lies that caused mass panic years ago with more severe consequences than a misdemeanor.
A better case for teaching financial literacy in schools couldn’t be made; tariffs are a regressive tax since goods cost the same for everyone and the rich pay a smaller %. Income tax is progressive since the more $ you make, the more you pay.
It’s all a ploy to save billionaires more $
#TodaysGOP
Not sure how they will feel when snap benefits, social security and Medicaid are gutted but most of them will probably still hold out hope for a pittance from their king.
I keep asking MAGAts about how they “were getting screwed” personally by this trade imbalance and none could give me an answer. None of them stopped shopping at Walmart. None of them stopped buying imported goods. They were all actively participating in it.
They will never have an answer because they don’t really want to understand the underlying facts. They just parrot everything Trump says which are lies. The lies are then reinforced in the right wing media ecosphere.
Remember to go back and interview these same ppl when business’ in their county,town start closing up bcuz of this
“little pain first” bullshit.Play the tapes back to them of their full support of a little pain.JUST CAN’T FIX STUPID!
A pity that in the endless postulating & handwringing as to why the Dems struggle to get votes from ppl who benefit from Dem admins and are damaged by GOP admins, it's a third rail to address that one reason is the stupidity.
We used to go to Ohio every year for a swim tournament. We would stay in Newark. You could see the remnants of a once prosperous little down town. A few businesses were trying to keep it going, but two minutes outta town in was sad and depressing
I’m hearing this too. From my class mates from high school. Who live in Michigan or smaller towns through out the country. All retired too. Don’t think it’s a bad idea.
Still trust Trump and dislike Democrats. It’s unfortunate.
Apparently, not only did the felon create some totally made-up dumbass "formula" to calculate his tariffs, he did so only about 3 hours before announcing them.
This is all looking more and more to me like deliberate destruction. Ruin all of it, let the vulture capitalists (oligarchs) move in.
I smell a flavor of trauma bonding.
“Trauma bonding occurs when a victim develops an unhealthy emotional attachment to their abuser, despite experiencing abuse. “
But what EXACTLY are they basing their "devotion" on? Is it a masochist element that's been established in the MAGA cult? If they aren't uncomfortable, they aren't being "loyal" enough? Sounds like a demented religion to me.
“Miller, a three-time Trump voter, believes other countries haven't played fair on trade. And like many here, she prefers to buy American-made goods.” Except for cellphones, televisions, laptops, her POS terminal,chocolate, vanilla,clothes, shoes.
I buy American made goods, they are expensive. I can easily pay $35 for a plain Tshirt. I want to get some sheets, but made in the US can easily run you $200 for just a twin flat sheet. Red rural/small town America shops at Walmart, Dollar General and Amazon, they aren’t going to buy $200 tw sheets
If you drive through Ohio, most of it feels stuck. No growth in the infrastructure, no real development. Not desperate, just static. Their FOMO is from failure to launch. Everyone leaves, but power in the US is land based not population based, so their political capital is real.
I love that these idiots are contained in one place. A place to avoid at all costs. They’re about to find out just how bad it’s going to get.
No sympathy from me. I hope it burns like fire.
Oh, there's a deep resentment in those places, as the factory jobs faded away, and they're pleased to have found someone to blame. "Foreigners" are especially appealing scapegoats. Trump is exploiting those feelings; he didn't create them. When things don't work out, that anger can be turned.
Trump supporters in general across the whole country, small towns and big cities, have one thing in common. They have to have someone to blame for their failures and misfortunes in life. They refuse to take any responsibility for bad things that happen to everyone in life.
I would pay money for a monthly subscription service that updates stories like this and so lets me know when the dimwit candy store owner loses her business because of the coming recession.
Lived in town for four years is not open for four years. A feature story in a local newspaper in 2023 points more toward opening sometime in 2022 or 2023.
Good point. With the post-pandemic money that restarted the economy. In fact, I wonder how many new small businesses were initially funded that way, with the owners cheering on the felon.
I haven't lived in this kind of town, but many relatives have and still do. A shop of handmade candies there is a luxury, and will find it tough to hang on in the coming recession. Whatever - she voted for this, so it's hers to deal with.
For sure, we'll see how her "walk through the fire" goes with no food in her stomach or place to live after her business goes under...totally agree with you that a candy shop in a rural town like this will be among the first to go when her neighbors lose their jobs.
I can imagine the trump goon squad coming for her business and smile sucking on the sweets and stripping her business of everything. Thats what’s ultimately what’s going to happen. Jared Kushner and co and Vancey boy taking the business and land for a knock down price.
They don’t understand tariff till they experience it in the coming months through higher prices and possible job loss. Fox tells them everything is booming and we’re punishing other countries.
Sounds like the pain hasn't hit yet. No company is going to build factories in the U.S. unless they can be guaranteed that the ridiculous tariffs are permanent and we can't even be sure that President Chump won't change his mind in the next 5 minutes.
I just can't muster up the empathy needed to feel sorry for any of them. We warned them over & over. Their racism, bigotry misogyny & hatred for "the others" drove their vote. Now they will suffer & lose their jobs, homes &/or businesses because they couldn't vote for a woman of color. FAFO
This comment by Mr. Wellman does not reflect at all what those in the article say, so could you please elaborate on what you mean? Because they’ll still all in on Drumpf.
I live in Ohio, and this doesn't surprise me in the least. We're probably getting on par with Florida. A large number of people are shockingly, mind-numbingly stupid.
This country has a lethal combination of gullibility, civic/historical ignorance and willful cruelty to fellow citizens.
I’ve watched my generation throw away their infrastructure inheritance for “lower taxes” and NIMBYism. I see very little hope.
My uncle is a retired veteran that spent 20 years in the military. He is an unshakeable Trump supporter, but he's also an asshole, so it's not too surprising.
Same with my idiot brother who lived outside Columbus. Marines then a union with, at the time, Ameritech. Living off those pensions and voting to destroy his impending retirement once Social Security goes belly up.
He,backed by his scoundrels want to institute fear! They are pretty much saying Constitution be damned!
“Fear has a way of being contagious.When one person has fear,it has a way of spreading to those around them and spreading. And we are witnessing that,no doubt…But..also,courage is also contagious”
I remember back in 2018, when I went back to the Mahoning Valley, their was a billboard thanking Trump for saving whats left of the steel industry, with tariffs. You had some thinking he was going to bring back the mills, that were long torn down. This was about the time Lordstown GM plant closed.
Looking at the products for sale in the Trump supporter’s store it appears most of them are made in Asia. She is going to find this out sooner rather than later.
Dems stopped really connecting with people like this years ago. Trump talks to them, offers “solutions echoed by right wing media,” and they buy it. Dems have no one else to blame but themselves for losing these people and their votes.
Believe me when I tell you that people in Delta Ohio are some of the dumbest people you ever want to meet. If you ever find yourself being forced to drive through the town - don't stop, even for gas. You might end up being an inmate in one of Ohio's many penitentiaries.
And it is officially morphing into a death cult before our eyes.
I am tired of reading about these clowns and what they "think" about any subject since it's never enlightning. They will continue to double down - even after they are eating dirt, they will try to convince us it's the best dirt ever.
Let them enjoy their economic suicide = natural selection.
On the other hand, for everyone else make your voice heard today at the #handsoff rallies all over the country. I’ll be at the 4pm protest downtown #LosAngeles https://www.mobilize.us/handsoff/event/765507/
This is a classic example of how Trump ran on grievance and hate towards the “others.” Interesting how the store owner said Trump is at least trying and how the other people (Democrats) weren’t trying to fix their problems. Totally ignorant of how much Bid spent on passing the infrastructure bill.
Proof that people are gonna give up their jobs, money , groceries prices for their idolatry of Trump, they would all rather wallow in their hate, bigotry and self righteous attitudes instead of admitting Trump takes the economy , tariffs are gonna amp up the recession we’ve been fighting since 2020
These people are unreachable. They are ready to die for him at this point. One lady couldn't even say out loud that she doesn't trust Trump??? And then had to agree with someone when she was overheard? That town is already in full blown "report your neighbor" mode. Rural USA is terrifying.
They might not lose sleep over what's coming, but they'll sure as shit lose jobs, houses, healthcare, access to affordable food and access to emergency medical care. So sleep tight sheep.
I hate it here.
On the other hand, if Dems were smart, they'd pay big attention here. These folks are telling them everything they need to know to win the next election....if we make it that far.
They can be shown how they have been tricked and many people have been tricked - not just you. It’s not your fault but you can help fix things now. Something I saw on bsky recently.
I have absolutely no problem watching these people lose those future benefits and jobs.
A little pain and suffering for the cult cause is the right way forward isn’t it ? I’m sure they won’t mind a little bit of pain when they realise the cult has come for their savings and health care.
The place in this article immediately reminded me of the Bill Hicks routine where he’s in a Waffle House and the waitress asks: 'Hey, whatcha readin' for?'
So the same concept here but with protesters not protecting their identity. They have no idea they are being screwed but they are. MAGA will agitate and use it to blame protesters for violence. The fences are already at the white house. Mark my words.
What if they DO understand, and also aren’t afraid of the consequences?
One of the defining characteristics of Gen-Z is that they have never been afraid to show their faces. “Masking” is very unpopular, and authenticity + vulnerability is valued, because they know we love them for who they are. 💙
I don’t think they’re stupid. I think they trust that they’re supported in a way that lets them be unafraid of tyrants. This sounds like the reality I wish I could be in 24/7, but I’m surely not. I did, however, TEACH my kids how to live fearlessly and show their faces proudly no matter what.
That's fair. The whole of those people aren't stupid. Intelligence isn't static. It is variable over topic, content, temperature of the intelligence around you, etc.
It's more accurate to say the idea is actually remarkably stupid to not protect yourself. They can be smart and have stupid ideas.
Unfortunately this actually IS stupid. It isn't as if Hitler was ALLOWED to do these things. He just did them. Do you think Trump will behave any differently? He will hunt every one of them down privately after the protests and giving them a straight line to yourself IS stupid. Crazy stupid.
Fun fact - this is definitively a historical accounting of happenings against Jewish people and the book is a very unyielding and gritty recalling of actual events. It is not fiction.
Older uneducated white people who feel the world has passed them by and are afraid. Clinging to some false hope that 1965 will somehow come back - willing to buy elixir from the slick talking snake oil salesman.
Exactly this. And not realizing how the 40s 50s and 60s had high tax rates for wealthy people and that it funded things like landing a man on the moon FFS
When we’re sitting on top of the scrap heap that trump policies have delivered, these people will happily struggle to make ends meet. There just is no getting through to them that it didn’t have to be like this.
They have zero understanding of how this really works, they know what Trump, state media Fox and the GOP social media influencers tell them. In a few months when this starts affecting them they will have already been “ taught” to blame somebody else, my guess it will be the unions
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Their cars are 10 years old or more, they are largely DIY, they don't care about avocados, so they get hit last.
So immediate tariff price changes won't affect them at all.
Take mental health breaks & enjoy old or new hobbies.
The admins purpose is to overwhelm everyone with lies, dismantling of agencies & Tariffs. Find a group of people who share your goals and meet every week or two if possible.
https://www.mundoamerica.com/news/2025/04/04/67ef9725fc6c834f078b45ae.html
Fun Fact: NYC is filled with diners. Every big city is and nothing.
BBC could have popped over to Toledo and talked to working class people there. Lucas County went for Harris.
Crickets.
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick on the US trying to take chip manufacturing from Taiwan: “Why can't those be made with ROBOTICS in America?” (Business Insider, April 3, 2025)
At the same time, however, it has asked for an exemption for the raw materials it needs, such as scrap metal."
Perfect
In that moment I don’t even think they would blame trump either.
It’s all a ploy to save billionaires more $
#TodaysGOP
Translation- “Most of the shit in Mary’s little shop is made overseas.”
I wish this fucking reporter went around the shop, made a list & then asked Mary again what she thinks of tariffs.
It is the path of least thought & resistence.
Where fact & theory collide.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
- Mark Twain
But that propaganda nonsense has thrown gasoline on the fire, for sure.
Meanwhile, MI suffered as well. Purple with all statewide offices held by Dems.
So, yeah. Ohioans are just stupid.
“little pain first” bullshit.Play the tapes back to them of their full support of a little pain.JUST CAN’T FIX STUPID!
NYTimesPitchbot can take the day off.
THIS is the problem, along with the demagogue huckster.
Still trust Trump and dislike Democrats. It’s unfortunate.
This is all looking more and more to me like deliberate destruction. Ruin all of it, let the vulture capitalists (oligarchs) move in.
“Trauma bonding occurs when a victim develops an unhealthy emotional attachment to their abuser, despite experiencing abuse. “
Dante Alighieri
No sympathy from me. I hope it burns like fire.
And the target has to be both specific in description and transgress, while being vague enough it's hard to disprove.
https://sweetenerusers.org/the-u-s-sugar-industry/
https://www.toledoblade.com/a-e/toledo-magazine/2023/01/08/life-sweet-delta-new-candy-shop/stories/20221225011
It's been around since Abraham.
Uh-huh, I'm sure she does. Until she sees the prices.
They’ll say, oh, he’s helping us, he doesn’t need to suffer
Right?
I’ve watched my generation throw away their infrastructure inheritance for “lower taxes” and NIMBYism. I see very little hope.
Surprised they didn't say they wouldn't talk to anyone but Fox Spews.
Noah- “There’s going to be a terrible flood. You should prepare.
MAGA “Nah. Wipe your lib tears you woke stooge.”
Noah (on his knees) “ God. You are right. Wipe them out.”
We don’t speak and haven’t for years.
“Fear has a way of being contagious.When one person has fear,it has a way of spreading to those around them and spreading. And we are witnessing that,no doubt…But..also,courage is also contagious”
stupid is forever....
stupid is the result of lazy
These people are fucking hopeless potato brains.
You're on the right side ha ha
THEY ARE FOOLS
I am tired of reading about these clowns and what they "think" about any subject since it's never enlightning. They will continue to double down - even after they are eating dirt, they will try to convince us it's the best dirt ever.
On the other hand, for everyone else make your voice heard today at the #handsoff rallies all over the country. I’ll be at the 4pm protest downtown #LosAngeles https://www.mobilize.us/handsoff/event/765507/
There is no more Arsenal of Democracy.
There are no more leaders.
There are only larger animals.
RIP 2019
On the other hand, if Dems were smart, they'd pay big attention here. These folks are telling them everything they need to know to win the next election....if we make it that far.
By baseball bat, I mean ballot box.
A little pain and suffering for the cult cause is the right way forward isn’t it ? I’m sure they won’t mind a little bit of pain when they realise the cult has come for their savings and health care.
https://bsky.app/profile/jonrademacher.bsky.social/post/3lm2yd3tlis2p
One of the defining characteristics of Gen-Z is that they have never been afraid to show their faces. “Masking” is very unpopular, and authenticity + vulnerability is valued, because they know we love them for who they are. 💙
Chapter 14 of this book happened. They all were executed and they knew exactly who they were.
https://open.spotify.com/show/3mtSwUbjdXfSLmb2Q2r5Tn?si=dwQ_BxmtTGuAG8OyCxQ87g
I’m offering a perspective. 💙
It's more accurate to say the idea is actually remarkably stupid to not protect yourself. They can be smart and have stupid ideas.
You're poor 'cause China ripped you off.