baroquespiral.bsky.social
major league language gamer. professionally extremely online. producer @ Andata Express, novels in Holohaus, researching rationalfic & litRPG @ UWO. Comiket Communist. actual chuunibyou. nobledark ★
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what kind of thing do you want to build & contribute?
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ACX’s “Moldbug Sold Out” post is about how Trumpian populism is exactly what he predicts as the worst failure mode of democracy
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for all the left has negatively polarized against EA the same impulses - particularly that behind GiveDirectly (the moment directly at odds with the paternalism not only of stereotypical util-counting but of the traditional charity model) - are very much alive here!
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Babylon 5 is abusive, A Goofy Movie is abusive fascist dreck, Balinese tv shows are abusive, dieselpunk is generally abusive, goblin mode is abusive. Masscult under Post-Leftism is inherently abusive. Sorry to spoil your 'fun'.
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tbc, I didn't even mean to imply that there *definitely isn't* either of those things - I worded it as a question for a reason! - my point is just that since it's unresolvable you can shift to that frame when you need it to do things (including *for* the frame where "we" and "deserve" exist)
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the guy in question isn't even American!! he can't even vote for Mamdani! he's Swedish!
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yeah I basically just don't think this entire widely held ontology of posting-as-power is correct - it can't account for the distinction between its own successes and backfires, other than by appealing to fate
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yes, I'm often willing to point this out when people claim various kinds of subculture norms aren't enforced bc they're not mass ones. but again, you're already positioning yourself against Normalcy even within the hyper-localized context of *this conversation*
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the axiom of punishment imo extrapolates from the elevation of personal anger to a categorical imperative through this kind of misapplied game theory.
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"normalizing" is as much a phantasm here as it is for the people who do what you're objecting to for the exact same ostensible reason. materially not only does it not mean anything but it *shouldn't* as revolutionary action shouldn't be dictated by "normality" anyway
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right but you currently don't even have the numbers/coordination to unperson (in part *because* you jump into this mode at the first opportunity) - neither side of the conversation is even agreeing with you
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but you're not doing that, you're being annoying at a random stranger.
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as objective and impersonal as you're trying to frame this, how are you distinguishing it in this context from the logic of "punishing evil" you're so (rightly) opposed to, if you are neither a) conducting actual material/collective action nor b) helping any of the affected parties in real time?
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my positive-valenced alternative word for "wokeness"/higher-order progressive values, derived from Samuel Delany's Stars In My Pockets Like Grains of Sand - explained further here
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nyoron~
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what if there's no "we" or "deserve"
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(if that's not already a bigger factor in agedep than anyone wants to talk about). also I have flat out never heard of someone cutting off their parents bc they weren't "set up for a career" - I'm sure it happens in the Hamptons, but that's something parents obsess about to *avoid* the other stuff
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ofc, in a culture where the Sygn collapses onto narcissism, a lot of people aren't very good at this, want it to apply to other people and not them - see also the ubiquitous tendency to politicize your breakups. I suspect many millennial parents will end up having horrible estrangements themselves
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(of course, bc none of these things actually make people happy, and indeed are covers for deep unhappiness - but until the frame shifts the unhappiness will continue to be blamed on lack of control)
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it's like breaking up in a relationship, which is also something in Sygn culture we expect to be able to do *without* implying a moral condemnation, a breach of social contract, or punishment for its own sake. if the *kid* can handle it on their own, the *parent* should be able to as well
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it does *not* necessarily or even usually mean they hate the parent, want them to be miserable or die, or don't appreciate the genuine effort that went into raising them. that's the *parent's* projection that allows them to put the inertia of the relationship over their own needs *or* their child's
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I think what current politics oriented toward a goal this simple/complex needs to be, that's often mistaken for "simple", is *flexible*; i.e. you can't let your participation in anything be predicated on a complex sequence of desired actions or outcomes
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this doesn't rule out any particular form of violence, but I don't think complex politics is at odds with that; unfortunately the more simple (at the scale of human desire) the goal, the more complex the solution (at least as much so as the conditions that produced it)
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the fact that this is split into the "Schmittian liberal" and "dirtbag leftist" factions who basically both want this but whose first immediate targets, or at least main discursive enemies right now, would be each other is another one of the historical ironies of this position
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part of the animus for this, though, and why it's so concentrated in the upper middle class, is this *is* the End of History people were promised - even the public-facing neoliberals like the WEF were promoting ethical stakeholder capitalism and Keynesian technocracy (the whole "Great Reset" thing)
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yesss also really good. was in my reality/acc thread
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if they’re actually doing some kind of deep cover thing that would make them hands down the most committed old school AI X-risker of all time, I’d have to respect it. probably just a standard Young-Boy value inversion thing though