davidgunkel.bsky.social
Professor - Northern Illinois University (USA). Award-winning author of the books The Machine Question, Robot Rights, Person-Thing-Robot, Of Remixology, and Deconstruction. https://gunkelweb.com
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Thanks...I look forward to checking it out. This'll be fun.
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Nice! Thanks for sharing that. And in the spirit of giving, I can provide you with this: gunkelweb.com/BigDada/
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Irony is dead.
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You offered an opinion about an article that you clearly misread and from which you expected something that was simply not there. You then followed that performance by passing judgment on and complaining about a number of books you have not read and clearly have no intention of reading. Brava.
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Yep...and yet another book that you will judge by the title without even reading the synopsis.
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I DO NOT PUSH FOR ROBOT PERSONHOOD.
THAT IS NOT MY ARGUMENT.
HOW MANY TIMES CAN I SAY THIS?
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You don't know the first thing about the "core of my argument," because you have not even read the argument. You are making assumptions based on titles and a quick read of one magazine article. You talk a good game about ethics and respect, but your actions speak undermine your credibility.
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I have researched this subject for over 2 decades. The results have been published in three peer-reviewed books from @mitpress.bsky.social on this excat subject. I refer you to these resources, but I cannot read them for you
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If you are going to comment on research that you have not read nor are familiar with, at least prompt #ChatGPT to do a summary for you. It's the least you could do.
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Are you really going to judge a book by its cover/title? In this book, I do a complete and grounded cost/benefit analysis of opportunities and challenges of expanding legal personhood to machines and argue--for numerous moral, legal, and political reasons--how and why this is a VERY BAD IDEA.
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Suffering is unfortunately a poor benchmark for making moral and legal decisions about who counts and what does not. This particular capacity or property of the individual has problems with determination, definition, and detection. Full analysis available (you guessed it) in the book.
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Curation is a creative force...just talk to a DJ. Or read all about it here: mitpress.mit.edu/9780262546539/
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Sorry...don't know him.
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Great. I totally agree with you. What we need is a "moral upgrade"--though I call it a "New Moral and Legal Ontology for the 21st Century and Beyond." If interested you can get the book (the third in The Machine Question trilogy) as an open access title from @mitpress.bsky.social
bit.ly/Gunkel-PTR
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Thank you for these comments. I would say that both reading and writing have become (and maybe have always already been) a "curatorial art."
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No. This framing does the exact opposite. And many of the things you mention and value do in fact deserve much more than a footnote, which is why they are not relegated to the footnotes but are the subject of entire chapters.
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Correct...and all of that is fully developed in the book. At this point, we should just send you a copy. If you agree to do a review, the publisher will provide one gratis. You clearly are looking for more than what this one essay can possibly provide. But we do cover all of this in the book.
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Because the essay is not about "AI and authorship." It is about the "death of the author" as that idea was developed in 20th century literary theory and how that work can inform the way we make sense of and critique the technologies of the 21st century.
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It's a short think piece designed to motivate thinking and debate. It is not a text book for classroom pedagogy in the age of AI. Why do you assume that a 2000 word essay can only be successful if it is an entire curriculum for k-12 education? Yeah, that is needed. But this thing is not that.
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Please do read what has been written. "The death of the author is the birth of the critical reader." What replaces the old authority figure of the author is the reader. But not just any reader, a critically minded and informed reader. Cultivating critical thinking and reading is job #1 for education
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Again...these harms and their mitigation is part of what we do in the book. This short essay simply did not have the literary real estate to do EVERYTHING.
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This is one short essay. It cannot cover all of this in its 2000 words. My suggestion is that you get and read the book that it is based on. There we had 50,000 words to play with and therefore address number of these items.
www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?b...
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These machines are not intelligent, they are not conscious, and they do not speak. Yet despite all this, the are able to generate legible sequence of words. This interrupts everything we knew or thought we knew about human language, requiring a full philosophcial reboot.
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Roland Barthes - Death of the Author (1967)
Michel Foucault - What is an Author (1969)
Jacques Derrida - Of Grammatology (1976)
Gatratri Chakravorty Spivak - In Other Worlds (1987)
Trinh T. Min-ha - Woman, Native, Other (1991)
Donna Haraway - Simians, Cyborgs and Women (1991)
etc. etc. etc.
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I am not referring to to this at all. This is not an essay about or grounded in the research of early childhood education. That's not my field. This is an essay about literature, literacy, and literary theory.
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I never said "must end." Instead I lean on the literary critic Roland Barthes who announced the "Death of the Author" in his influential essay on the subject from 1967.
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Literary history, philosophy of literature, literary theory, semiology, history of communication, media studies, etc.
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The algorithm does not speak. It cannot speak, for it is not human.
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It is you who have made this declaration. I never wrote nor did I use the words "meaningless" or "oppressive."
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Again--even if your heart is in the right place--the available research on these subjects do not support these generalizations.
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You mistakenly accuse me of writing propaganda for Silicon Valley tech bros, but your argument reasserts the power and privilege of the patriarchy.
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These sacred texts were attributed to the "hand of God"--the original model of all forms of patriarchy.
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Unfortunately this opinion--even if it "sounds right"--is not supported by the evidence and research.
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Voice, authority, continuity and accountability are all part of the phallogocentric privilege that is the hallmark of Western metaphysics....aka "white boy thinking."
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The concept of author is not a natural kind. It's a culturally specific construct (the product of European modernism) that is raised to the standpoint of a universal by colonial conquest & religious conversion. What Barthes identified with the "death of the author" is the termination of its hegemony
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You have misread the essay. It does not "reposition human authorship in relation to machine output." Quite the opposite. It uses #LLM #AI as a mechanism to demonstrates how the Western philosophical concept of authorship is already a prejudicial ethnocentric construct whose days are over.
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I'm really confused by this comment. There is nothing in this article that concerns moral standing in any way, shape, or form. If you do not mind, I would like to ask: "Did you even read it? Because I simply cannot see how anyone could have drawn this conclusion from this particular essay.
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To those Analytic Philosophers who never bothered to get up to speed with poststructuralism : )
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Yep...that's my argument. The "death of the author" predates this technological innovation; #LLMs just make it legible.
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@drtiffpetricini.bsky.social very much likewise! It was very nice to meet and talk with you during the Communication Ethics Conference at @duquesneuniversity.bsky.social Thank you for this photo.