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Redid my kitchen while refusing any and all assistance offered to me because it would "just slow me down". Am now genuinely excited to go to Home Depot.
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I'm here for it in both a "messy bitch" way and an "I (along with virtually everyone else) was right about this" way
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He's from Chicago though, so it's more like "ope dese jagoffs are sinners. Yous are embarrassments to Jesus, to yer maaas, and to da Bears"
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I mean specifically the terminally online people who never actually talk to anyone in real life. Social media makes fringe beliefs feel way more common than they are to many
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I see that too and agree - can't be both ways. I think a lot of it is these people conflating largely popular ideas in the abstract with firmly held policy beliefs
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The problem with screenshots is that it shows people who are inherently online. Which is a lot of what Jane talks about is online isn't real life. I'm done with this comment chain because I'm tired by now, but we aren't too different in what we want politically. The question is just how to get there
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And the numbers would appear to agree that running further left would not have netted her more votes. I personally wanted her too, but I still voted for her. But I strongly believe her problem was not her stances, but rather her messaging
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And I'm telling you those people are weird and online and ultimately wrong about their importance
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So should she have been less progressive in order to win?
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Not if they're Nazis
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Do you think Kamala was too progressive?
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Reporting this for threatening violence BTW, but no that's not how I'm denoting liberal. I'm using Liberal to mean the generally center-leaning part of the Democratic Party, as opposed to members of the more left-leaning Progressive wing
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Do YOU think she was too progressive?
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And you're refusing to read what was written in the first place: that those people that want to claim that are largely incorrect and insignificant in number. And you're still preoccupied with ignoring the data and blaming them
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Stop attacking me and putting words in my mouth. What you've said has nothing to do with the original article. Her being pro-women's rights is fantastic and also not the reason for progressive hesitancy. I liked her stance on some things and disagreed on others, but elections span many, many issues
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You're completely missing the point of everything I'm saying and continuing to blame people the article that is referenced refutes. I VOTED FOR HARRIS! I had commonly-held, fair criticisms of her and voted for her anyways and was disappointed she lost. I'm sick of being blamed for it though!
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I'm not asking for it both ways! Centrists keep blaming the left for not voting for her and these numbers prove that wrong, thats the whole point. I don't want the party to adopt progressive policies because I think its a savvy political move; I want them because I believe its a positive thing to do
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By a bunch of online weirdos who didn't matter in the polling numbers, which is the entire point Jane is making. Progressives ultimately did turn out to vote for her, even islf she was not our preference. So what would you propose? Her running on more right wing issues?
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Again, based off the numbers in the linked polling those were *not* reasons to not vote for her. We still voted for her! I'm sorry you really want to blame progressives for the election loss, but data is not on your side. There are a lot of reasons she lost, that is the point Jane is making.
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And did not platform those things. Was she a step in the right direction compared to the alternative? Certainly. But if she was so progressive, why do progressives not claim her amongst their ranks? Messaging matters on both ends of the left spectrum, and ultimately her campaign was not good at that
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And that is:
a) way more information than the average voter seeks out
b) not an accurate summation of her politics when it comes to the progressive agenda. The left wants more than just Gaza - things like M4A, Green New Deal, higher corporate tax, etc. She did not campaign on those things fully
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"Most people" is doing a lot of work there. Many people certainly did, as the polls show! But many on the left (myself included) thought she was not progressive enough, yet still voted for her. I think the question isn't "was she too progressive", but rather "why did a lot of people think she was"
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Some, I'm sure. But again this is a two way street: lots of centrists also want to say the progressive wing of the party is miniscule and does not matter, and therefore their opinions should be ignored, and yet simultaneously are the reason the election was lost. For both groups it can't be that way
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I'm asking very earnestly here, but does that not cut both ways? If the left largely did come out to vote for Harris, can Liberals quit blaming us for staying home and causing the election defeat?
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I don't disagree, but it is an appeal to those politics nonetheless
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And I you. Please point out any inaccuracies for me
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She did, by and large. Her main campaign points were a) Donald Trump is dangerous and a tyrant and b) he is going to raise the taxes of the average family by $4000. One of those appeals to identity, one appeals to material interests. Both lost
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If class politics is a losing strategy (voters choosing against meterial issues) and identity politics is also a losing strategy (voters choosing the right because of cultural issues) where is there to go from here? Adopting the identity politics of the right is a non-starter
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The thesis here boils down to, AFAICT, the left needs to realize large #s of the working class are willing to vote against their own material interests because they are race/sex/etc-ist and the right appeals to that identity. Believable enough, but how does that knowledge ever help win an election?
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That's quite the starting DL you've got there coach
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There was a thread on the cooking subreddit the other day in which the poster asked how restaurants always manage to get their scrambled eggs to be so buttery and delicious, and everyone responded "butter"
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Sorry for the double Spencer jumpscare
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Sounds like someone's just jealous she didn't get shown a llama stuffie tbh
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Delete this
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Put the ref in a small blimp that hovers over the field. Give me dirigible ref
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I'll be honest, I'd just start doing "name some guys"
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I said the same thing and look at me now
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I took the next day off work, so I'm actually quite fine with it tbh. I was about to be pissed if it was like 2pm