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Not aware of any but best to ask the club as it seems the there is a time limited window to make the change prior to renewal with ID verification. If you get an issue with this please copy ISLO into the email @islo-must.bsky.social
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We continue his work today inspired by his warm, compassionate nature and the widespread affection and respect by all those whom he met & we drive for a brighter future for Manchester United Football Club.
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He always looked at the bigger picture & had balanced views based on wanting to know all the details.
Ian Stirling left a legacy through the many hours of work and determination he did fighting on behalf of many reds in our fanbase on various issues and campaigns to better our football club.
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10/ But until the questions are answered, our optimism about plans to make Old Trafford the biggest and the best again will be restrained by caution about what the consequences for fans might be."
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9/ If they are able to produce a new stadium as stunning as the plans suggest without harming the atmosphere, without hiking ticket prices and without harming investment elsewhere, then this could be very exciting.
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8/ "We look forward to further consultation with supporters and discussing these vital questions with the Club.
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7/ Will it add to the debt burden which has held back the club for the last two decades? Will it lead to reduced investment in the playing side at a time when it is so badly needed?
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6/ Whilst investment is much-needed and welcome, fans remain anxious about what it means and what the consequences will be.
"Will it drive up ticket prices and force out local fans? Will it harm the atmosphere, which is consistently fans’ top priority in the ground?
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5/ So now that decision has been made, fans will need to be consulted all along the way on the key features that impact match-going fans' experience and atmosphere.
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4/ "As our own and the club’s consultations have shown, the answer to whether United fans want to refurbish Old Trafford or build a new ground depends entirely on what the consequences of the decision are.
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3/ But against the backdrop of uncertainty around next year’s ticket prices, continuing poor performance on the field, speculation around sales of key young players, and the recent financial results, the news probably does beg more questions than it gives clear answers.
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2/ Everyone wants the biggest and the best for our Club and the visuals look both stunning and exciting.
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1/ Commenting on the announcement of a decision in principle to build a new stadium, a Manchester United Supporters Trust spokesperson said:
"The announcement of plans to build a brand new stadium adjacent to Old Trafford is clearly very big news for United fans.
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3/ £18.8m in debt interest payments over six months, taking the total interest costs since the Glazers’ leveraged buyout to more than £1bn
Without the INEOS cash injection of £80m, the club would be down to £15m cash.
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2/ Amongst the low-lights revealed in the figures are:
A pre-tax loss for the three months of £38m
The Club spent £14.5m on giving Erik Ten Hag a new contract and sacking him four months later.
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1/ Commenting on today’s financial results released by Manchester United, the Manchester United Supporters Trust has issued the following statement:
Today’s financial results lay bare the scale of the financial mismanagement we have seen at Manchester United.
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This is the sort of negative malicious and inaccurate nonsense that we're referring to in 18/ above.
A minutes research would have enlightened them.
If you're attacking other United fans you're part of the problem. Best not to engage - ignore and crack on.
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21/ He deserves that chance and our support deserves better - we need to go circle the wagons and adopt the siege mentality of Sir Alex. The only enemy is outside - we are United!
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20/ And we need to get behind the team for the remaining matches of this season to reclaim what we can and give the manager the best chance to turn things around.
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19/ We need unity amongst our fans and that requires tolerance of different tactics but support wherever that is possible for anyone and any group who shares the same objectives.
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18/ That is the approach we believe is in the best interests of our supporters and our football club and we won't be deflected from that regardless of the negative voices.
Those negative voices need to be ignored if they can't see they are damaging the interests of all fans.
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17/ So we'll continue with that dialogue but as we always have, we will also continue to support our fans' right to protest and publicise those efforts including those led by other groups.
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16/ It can only be achieved by a dialogue where the other side is prepared to listen to the arguments you are making.
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15/ It can tip into discontent and even rebellion in the stands. That's an impossible environment in which to expect players to perform and could spiral downwards into an irrecoverable tailspin.
That argument needs to land with the decision makers.
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14/ Customers demand value for money and if they don't get the "product" they expect they complain - loudly. On the streets and in the stands too.
Losing the fans doesn't just lose that inspirational support that can push the team for that injury time winner.
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13/ We impact the team performance and can make the difference between a win and a loss. But if you treat fans like customers then don't be surprised if they start to act like them and stop playing that role of support - getting behind the shirts unconditionally.
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12/ Not just because that's an obvious injustice but also because it is counterproductive even for the owners and will cost more than the small benefit it brings in short term revenue. The supporters bring far more value than the simple collective ticket revenue.
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11/ We know there is a lot of pressure on club finances due to past decisions. But we don't believe the fans should be paying the price for that.
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10/ So any price rise or policy is seen as a failure but they don't see just how much worse things could be with no voice at the table.
So we need to continue that dialogue to work to get the best outcomes we can, both for our football club and our supporters.
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9/ So while we know we can't dictate the decisions the club and owners make we know that we can influence them and get a better deal. Perhaps the most frustrating thing is fans only see the final decisions.
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8/ Our fans were left without independent representation - without a voice at the table with the club. We got it wrong but those of us who made those choices have learned this the hard way and we aren't going back to make those same mistakes again.
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7/ And at the end of that 8 year war of attrition the owners were still there too.
We've seen this movie before. Those 8 years were wasted. That personal sacrifice for those who gave up their STs was wasted.
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6/ From 2005 when some of us took the difficult decision to give up our season tickets and continue a hostile protest against our owners, to 2013 and the re-opening of dialogue around 8 years later, we had no influence over decisions that affect us as fans.
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5/ We know from history that that will not happen without dialogue as part of that strategy.
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4/ So it's horses for courses but ultimately we all want the same outcome. Owners who care about the club like we do as fans. Owners who don't take from the club but give to it just as we do.
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3/ Not surprisingly your opinion carries less weight if you hold a private conversation trying to persuade the merits of a certain course and then you step outside and slate those same people you are trying to persuade.
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2/ There needs to be some separation for that dialogue to be credible & influence decisions.
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1/ It's not a matter of dialogue or protest. Both have a role to play and we've used both tactics at different times over the last 25 years.
But the most effective strategy is when they work in tandem.
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10/ And no doubt a unified front from our supporters is crucial at this time.
We need everyone United on this.
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9/ You can read our position here set out publicly in an open letter but that is exactly mirrored in our discussions with the club:
imust.org.uk/Blog/Entry/a...
Dialogue in tandem with peaceful protest is no doubt our best chance to persuade the club to take the right decisions.
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8/ That will generate far more income than short term revenue from unpopular ticketing decisions now.
We've put those arguments to the club at every opportunity.