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Londoner. Husband and father of two. Proud British Jew and Zionist! š®š±š¬š§
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They have been there for a very long time, and the Iranian regime does not permit them to goto Israel or abroad more generally. They are held hostage by an evil regime that hates them. The used to be hundred of thousands of Jews in Muslim countries.
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Too much to cover there. All I will say is that the Middle East isnāt the West. Itās different out there. I want peace, but out there the only thing thatās is respected is strength. Itās brutal because sadly there are religious fundamentalists at the core of this. Itās fucked.
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Israel gave up Gaza in pursuit of peace. And you can get into a whole argument about why Hamas was founded and so on, but Israel along with the US and U.N. have made offer after offer for Palestinian statehood and they refused. The rubble is there because of the choices made by Hamas on Oct 7th.
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Perhaps, but to some degree that does exist in Israel. Jews, Arabs, Christians, Druze, Africans and others have prospered in Israel. I think given the history of the Jews you can understand why it means so much to so many.
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I care for one, and any Zionist would as well if thatās how youāre going to define it.
Iām not saying Palestinians donāt have a right to self determination. I want peace and prosperity for them, without Hamas. I donāt know how this gets solved. Itās a mess.
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Fuck you asshole š
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Bad things? Half of the entire Jewish population was wiped out! Thats more than just a bad thing you prick. And yes we need a home where we are not under the control of some group that could do the same!
And if youāre going to using quotes, quote my own words, not your own bullshit.
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Really? Tell that to the Uyghurs of China. I know there are different Chinese groups but China is not some multicultural or multi ethnic in the same way as Europe or America. They are 90% Han Chinese and they will never match the levels of European or US multi ethnicity.
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Justification is not a requirement for a group like Hamas to exist. They are the Palestinian off shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Their protests were not peaceful. Donāt you think if Hamas said weāre not going to try and destroy Israel and kill Jews, that would be a good start?
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Jews never left the land entirely though. We maintained a presence, and at times it was low, but Jews started to return well before 1948. And it was when Jews started returning that Arabs also came to the land of Israel, for economic prosperity.
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There are ethnostates all over the world. Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, Japan etc. and the truth is that Israel isnāt not an ethnostate. Itās Jewish majority, there are 2 million Israeli Arabs. Itās multi racial, ethnic and religious.
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Qatar alone transferred $1.8 billion since they came to power. The EU gave ā¬1.3 billion in aid. You know some of the Hamas leaders used to live in luxury hotels in Qatar?
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Itās not cherry picking. Ghandi, Mandela, MLK, they achieved incredible success without really using violence. Do you think the Gazans would have a better life if Hamas wasnāt obsessed with killing Jews and trying to destroy Israel? I think the answer is yes!
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Having a right to self defence isnāt the same as having the right to carry out a massacre and take hostages as they did on Oct 7th. Imagine that instead of using all those billions in aid to build tunnels, rockets and weapons they used it for the people!
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Ok, couple of things. UNWRA, as far as Iām concerned is a terrorist support group. UNWRA employees took part in Oct 7th. If you read that page it says that the march has been largely peaceful, so not all of it was peaceful then.
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Yes theyāve suffered but their population has grown massively, and they seem to have some special refugee status that applies only to them. Jews were refugees for millennia and we didnāt get some special status. We assimilated and integrated, and still oppressed and scapegoated etc.
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Have you ever considered what a millennia or so of oppression, subjugation, humiliation, genocides, forced conversion, scapegoating, blood libels, pogroms and so on, might have had on Jews and the psyche of the Israeli people today? Iām not trying to deny Palestinian suffering (1/2)
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Black people in America, Iām sure we would agree, suffered horrific abuses under slavery and segregation, but the civil rights movement was based on peaceful protest. Same approach by Ghandi and Mandela, so donāt give me that crap about resorting to violence.
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The land of Israel was colonised well before the British. In fact it was the Romans that renamed the land from Judea to Syria Palestina in an attempt to sever the Jewish connection to it. Jews had lived in the land well before the term āPalestineā was ever used.
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Have you ever asked yourself why? Have you ever considered the effect the various intifadas had on Israeli society and politics? Israel had just approved a record number of work permits for Gazans prior to Oct 7th. Gazans were able to come and use Israeli hospitals.
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It wasnāt their land though and they had no sovereignty of it, so they couldnāt turn around and say no! There were Jews and Arabs in the land and the U.N. voted to create two states for the two different groups.
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Its absolutely absurd, and now the coward has blocked me!
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š¤£š¤£š¤£ collaborated to save Jews from the Holocaust. How dare they!
Fucking Nazi!
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The Nazis and Hamas do share a common goal, killing the Jews! And thatās all that matters to me.
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Yes, because of the philistines you dumb fuck.
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The only Nazi apartheid colony in the Middle East, was Gaza! Thats was Hamas are, Islamic Nazis, and youāre a big fan of them so well done you šš¼
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Doesnāt change the fact that it was the Romans who named the land Syria Palestina. The reason Herodotus called it a Palestine is because as Greek he would have been aware of the Philistines! Which is also where the Romans got the name Syria Palestina.
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Calling me antisemitic is just pathetic, much like yourself so itās no surprise. I dislike anyone who mooches off the government and doesnāt contribute to society in any country.
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Yeah always been Palestine since the Romans named the province Syria Palestina after they conquered it and attempted to sever the Jewish connection to the land!
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No you fool. It means that all they is get benefits from the government. They donāt really work and contribute all that much, they just get paid.
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Itās Palestine that doesnāt exist. Never been a country.
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What statistic refutes my anecdote? Look, youāve never been to Israel and I doubt you have very many Jewish friends and youāre not a Jew so I would argue Iām better placed than you are to speak on the matter.
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Do you know what the word mooch means?
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My wife comes from an orthodox Jewish family and they all support Israel. I know many other Jewish orthodox families and they all support Israel. Donāt try and out-Jew a Jew!
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Orthodox Judaism is not solely comprised by Haredi/Hasidic Jews you muppet.
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Yeah because they mooch off the state!
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You said Orthodox Jews at first though didnāt you. Because thatās what you thought, and I can tell you for a fact that Orthodox Jews support Israel.
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Youāre confusing Orthodox Jews with some Haredi Jews. Thereās a difference.
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Yeah Iām looking through this and thereās no footage of the IDF killing any Israelis at the Nova festival.
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No itās accurate. 90% of Jews are Zionists!
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This is hilarious! š
So youāre blaming the Jews for savings the some Jews but also blaming the Jews for helping the Nazis milling even more Jews. So itās just blame the Jews for everything right?! š
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The idea that Zionists rescued the German economy is one of the most laughable things Iāve ever heard. Germanys ability to rearm had nothing to do with Zionists! Yes of course, Zionists saving Jews doomed more Jews! š¤£
Talk about a Nazi mindset!
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But if youāve seen it, you can just send me a link, or point me in the right direction. Come on now, this shouldnāt be difficult for you.
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Yeah because you said it was the IDF. Thats why Iām so interested in seeing it!
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The Jews didnāt collaborate with the Nazi effort to start WW2 and carry out the Holocaust you cunt. Accusing the Jews of being culpable for what the Nazis did is just about the most antisemtic Nazi like shit I can think of. Tells me that you are a big fat Nazi yourself.
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Iāve looked and Iāve found no such video dickhead.
The suggestion that watching Jews die is snuff for me is another sign of your Jew hatred. Itās vile.
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If youāre saying that Nova attendees were killed by the IDF and you have seen videos that prove it then yes! Because that would important to share with others and raise awareness, which I assume you would want?!
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Fucking hell youāre an evil Nazi. Saving six thousand wasnāt a death sentence for the other six million! The Holocaust was going to be carried out by the Nazis regardless of those six thousand being saved.