kushghost.bsky.social
another place to scroll and post on. the intel on this was not 100%. i can post lit gang!
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but you can’t have one without the other. socialism isn’t defacto bad. in my experience the conservatives who try and harness the “populism” of bernie are always operating in the worst of bad faith and don’t give a shit about healthcare or whatever and are ultimately just rebranded conservatives
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right but bernie is a dem socialist. his entire platform is expanding good things we already have, reimplementing good things we used to have, doing the good things from fdrs unfinished platform and doing various welfare state stuff that other countries have had for decades.
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well anyway have a good day i gotta bounce.
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hmm weird. they voted for sanders and opposed student debt forgiveness? that was a big piece of bernies campaign in 16-20
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ask your blue dog if they support a strong public option that puts private insurance out of business. i bet they say no. if that is whats on the agenda fine maybe eventually we get universal hcare but another way would be to expand and improve medicare to cover everyone instead
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a good thing for you to ask your blue dog is if they support taking control of medicaid from states and directly administering it at the federal level so conservative controlled states cannot deprive their citizens of benefits. my bet would be they say no.
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well i suppose so but that would include the wealthy as well so its a question of would they allow that to happen and or would WE allow them to do it. alternatively the current private system allows 60,000 americans to die every year. right now with the aca!
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government already gives massive amounts of money to research and develop new drugs and procedures that ultimately get privatized when they should be socialized.
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but still even after medicare for all is passed and we have universal care we will eventually have to do something about the provider sides cost. currently the insurance/providers/pharma dynamic in america drives the total cost through the roof!
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yea which would be a heavier lift than single payer universal health insurance. again the dude who allegedly shot that ceo has become a folk hero because everyone knows exactly how evil insurance companies can be. they are cruel and enormously wasteful and we gave better ways to pool money for care.
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it should be pointed out what you seem to be stressing is the government removing itself from healthcare and letting the market decide whether or not you get care/meds and if so i AGREE!
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i an saying health insurance can be done better and cheaper and fairer by the government instead of for profit companies for a variety of reasons. and its possible that the government could even manufacture the drugs better and cheaper as well and wouldn’t be opposed to that either.
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not what i am saying
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so do you support universal healthcare or not? i do and i don’t believe there is any reason private for profit insurance companies should be involved at all in healthcare. 1/3 of every dollar we spend on hcare in this country is wasted because this is how we provision care.
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it already is under the private system! we have been living under the power of the market for profit system for decades!
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so what are you arguing for? yes we should be funding this stuff to make it work but relying on the private sector has an even worse track record. again the aca is built on a private framework
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you mentioned limited resources yes which is why moving away from private insurance towards single payer is better because the private system is enormously expensive and wasteful. no ceo/shareholder payouts or advertising or denial of claims or expensive billing departments in M4A
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both bills for medicare for all in congress include mental healthcare which would likely go a good ways to helping prevent suicide and depression something that doesn’t currently exist under the aca. m4a also includes dental coverage something else the aca doesn’t include
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when i say something like the nhs what i am talking about is the government providing the insurance and employing to doctors to control costs on both ends NOT a one to one copy and implementation of their system here.
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60,000 some americans die every year in this country because of lack of healthcare (even with the aca) many millions more are functionally under insured. the ceo of a major health insurance company was just executed on the street and the dude allegedly responsible has become a sort of folk hero.
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and if they did single payer they wouldn’t have premiums/deductibles or copays at all!
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and we would all get true universal cradle to grave medical/mental/dental healthcare in exchange
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for 90 some percent of tax payers a switch to single payer universal healthcare would actually be an enormous tax cut!
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i don’t think this is true. i don’t know a single person for whom insurance premiums/deductibles/copays have gone down. the most i think dems could argue is that they haven’t gone up as much as they otherwise would have.
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¯\(°_o)/¯ not following you here. ultimately i think it would be better if ALL of healthcare was socialized something like the nhs but i think a reasonable compromise would be to just do the insurance side considering private insurance is a gigantic expensive parasite that adds no value.
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no i do but you want people in general to participate in something they don’t see much point in doing because it doesn’t benefit them. i think the party that does away with enormous healthcare insurance bills would likely win for decades.
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what in your view does expanding the aca mean? i bet for most dems in congress that means increasing subsidies to insurance companies and not expanding/improving medicaid or medicare. throwing good money after bad instead of building on what works like expanding improving medicare for all.
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the aca cannot deliver universal healthcare because the very framework of it is built on a conservative market based response to universal systems.
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its great that it worked out for YOU but for many it was a bandaid if that. what existed before the aca sucked yes but the aca also sucks. give the markets and all of that shit back to the gop so THEY can be the party of the insurance industry that denies people life saving care.
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the fact that there isn’t a unified position for true universal healthcare in the democratic party is insane to me and that given a huge historic mandate there weren’t 51 senators willing to at least do a public option is an indictment of them.
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single payer universal healthcare takes the same number of votes that the aca did.
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unless you get better democrats in there who will do the good stuff with every bit of power they have then all of this will only get worse. if america voted 75 blue dogs in the senate i honestly believe the first thing they would do is increase the filibuster to 76.
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i think the real problem is that one party is highly motivated to remake society into some horrible idealized version of the past that never existed and the other party is willing to work in a bipartisan way to do the least amount of work to keep things the same provided their donors agree.
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the best stuff dems tried to do under biden was mostly killed by manchin and sinema two democrats who its all but certain this “new” think tank will recommend be the model for the party going forward.
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well then if the only alternative to the gop is a blue dog then they will eventually win but i don’t believe it has anything to do with their policies or their strategy to appeal to the imagined middle which always seems to dovetail with the interests of their rich donors.
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because dem primary voters listen to the millionaires on tv who tell them the things THEY want can’t win and then the wealthy give the requisite money to blue dogs who will protect their interests to get through the primaries and then blue no matter who takes over. blue dogs lose just as often tho
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dems need to abandon “purity politics” and stop trying to demand everyone and everything be a “moderate” they should focus on building upon what is popular and works like improving and expanding medicare to cover everyone in a single true universal healthcare system.
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the problem is the dems aren’t doing the stuff that matches the rhetoric of their speeches. we should be giving people healthcare outright without bills not subsidizing insurance companies because they pinky swear to be less shitty and charge half of a percent less than they otherwise would.
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conservatives get to decide what government looks like and does, its the democrats in congress whose job it is to get their own base to accept that.
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because when older conservatives dems get 60 senate votes they do stuff like pass conservative healthcare bills instead of good stuff like single payer
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can you count suckahs?
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the “lefts joe rogan”
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i mean the kind of rogan on the “left” the democratic leadership seems to want would. they want some third way “centrist” who absolutely would take that money.
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“clintons” plural
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you haven’t ever interacted with the clintons super fans or the khive. dems absolutely do have their cults.
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lol
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well if i found out a youtuber or whatever was funded by united healthcare or raytheon or whatever i wouldn’t be interested in what they have to say about healthcare or foreign policy or whatever.