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We can't 😭 It's a GitHub limitation
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Glad to hear it! Yeah the new stateless protocol is much better.
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Yeah but the story is even easier. You can run compute, either before or after the cache. That’s p much it
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Still cooking in this PR github.com/vercel/next....
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Writing has been on the wall for a while, just finally starting to slowly roll out example updates, followed by actually deprecating the product soon (and change management)
We moved forward with Fluid compute instead
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`dynamic` can be the entire route. Make your `page.tsx` file render the `<Route>` component and use `dynamic`.
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nextjs.org/docs/app/gui...
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Can you share what issues you saw so we can fix?
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What docs are you referring to? I don't believe we show this anywhere
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Vercel for the backend is Vercel 😁
Can deploy APIs, connect to databases/queues with first-party integrations, built-in logging/observability.
And can also bring & use your backend frameworks (e.g. Express, Hono, etc)
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You can also have v0 generate vanilla HTML if you don’t want React stuff. Also can ask it for Svelte.
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Andrew has made some massive improvements to prefetching, including fetching segments. It's under an experimental flag `clientSegmentCache`.
x.com/acdlite/stat...
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Myth: you can fetch data with "use server"
Taking your RPC explanation further, could talk about how you can think of it like a POST, and the broader umbrella of Server Functions as maybe where you could have a GET.
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Myth: RSC requires dynamic rendering
You've covered it already in previous posts, but linking back to your longer explanations would be nice.
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Myth: RSC doesn't work with CSS-in-JS
It would probably be helpful to talk about runtime CSS-in-JS versus zero runtime variants.
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It's running on the same Vercel infrastructure as everyone else. It's a pretty simple site, although we do have some overly heavy SVGs on the homepage I'd like to replace.
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I got in touch with the TikTok creator. They took down the video. Unfortunately they got scammed by a job posting on Indeed claiming to be from Vercel.
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This was false. The TikTok poster took down the video.
They unfortunately got scammed by a got posting on Indeed claiming to be Vercel.
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It's not. Appears to be some kind of skit.
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Hot
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That's like saying solar companies invented LED lights to leave lights on longer.
The whole point is to use fewer resources.
The default behavior of Next.js is to prerender. And with PPR we're trying to prerender to static as much as possible. You're only using compute when it's necessary.
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Yes, Vercel employs me. Yes, I want Next.js to be great when self-hosting or not on Vercel. Will I recommend Vercel first if someone asks me? Also yes, or I wouldn't work here if I didn't believe in the product.
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That's not necessarily true. Yes, you can have unconscious bias, but part of my job is confronting bias and being pretty open about it.
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This argument gets confusing to me because Vercel also supports SPAs who want the PR previews as well. From a Vercel perspective, we want to support *all* frameworks and types of apps.
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There's a bunch exploring RSC:
• parcel: parceljs.org/recipes/rsc
• waku: waku.gg
• redwood: redwoodjs.com/blog/rsc-now...
• mfng: github.com/unstubbable/...
• kotekan: github.com/bndkt/kotekan
• tangle: github.com/lubieowoce/t...
• twofold: github.com/twofold-rsc/...
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If you figure out a good way to get this through, please let me know. I've tried and it hasn't really landed, probably cause everyone assumes my bias.
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This isn't the same thing, though.
- Agree we want to (and will continue to) invest in React
- We also invest in other frameworks and libraries
- RSC is not tied to Vercel, so it's not vertically integrated
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Been there, absolute nightmare material 😱
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Agreed. Made a PR.
github.com/vercel/next....
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Yeah I think something like this is closer, maybe too verbose
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To clarify, are you advocating for not showing inline "use server" usage, or just this specific example?
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IMO "use cache" is similar to all of the upcoming Next.js changes (dynamicIO, PPR). If we could have known from the start, we'd short circuit there.
But the only way to arrive at these APIs is to put something out there, watch and listen, and iterate. Unsatisfying but seems to be true.
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I hear you, but this would be a pretty big breaking change, so likely not something we would do soon. Longer term, I'd like to move away from dotenv entirely, personally.
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I have a plan to re-do the entire page, but it will take a bit longer to get right. We'll probably keep templates to get started but that marketing-speak needs to go.
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github.com/vercel/next....
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You can click on the team name in the top left of the navigation bar to switch between other teams.
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Next.js *prerenders* by default. Caching is more nuanced, it depends what we're referencing. We stopped caching many things by default in Next.js 15.
x.com/leerob/statu...
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For example, when I go to my "leerob" team, that value is persisted and if I go directly to vercel .com, it redirects me to the last team I used.
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I'm still a bit confused. Using GitHub as your OAuth provider doesn't automatically assume anything on the Vercel side - it is just forwarding an email over. Then, on Vercel, you went to your hobby team. Was that not the last team you were using?
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Did you already look at the Observability tab? There's a specific section for Image Optimization. We also have some docs here for ways to optimize.
vercel.com/docs/image-o...
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It should remember the last team selection you made and persist that if you navigate to the Vercel dashboard directly versus the team URL.
Maybe you can DM me a video so I can see what you're seeing?
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Are you saying it is defaulting to your Vercel team connected to your personal GitHub, versus the Vercel team connected to your work GitHub?
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Thanks for sharing, this is painful. Will have our team look into this 🙏
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Ah, it seems you pushed a fix – didn't see your other reply.
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You can think about OG images similar to other pages:
• /app/opengraph-image.tsx → /opengraph-image
• /app/test/page.tsx → /test
This allows the OG to be dynamically created (or updated). If you want a static file (with extension), you would do:
• /app/opengraph-image.png → /opengraph-image.png
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I also see it rendering correctly with the direct link. Were you not seeing this before?
overreacted.io
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Testing here and it seems to be working okay.
www.opengraph.xyz/url/https%3A...