migueldelaney.bsky.social
Chief football writer at the Independent. Author of 'States of Play'
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this is the point, though, he has a clause
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It’s now “part of the show” - until they do actual business and it’s delicate info!
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Guehi not progressing, I’m told
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thanks!
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See also: the Euro 2000 semi-final
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haha - justifiably
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That’s Wilson’s topic! Blame him!
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thank you! Haha, a good tale
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haha
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Haha, what are the eyes for
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Yes!
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I had thought it's a bit mixed? Some geographical cares really care, some don't; some bases in US care, some don't, with that influenced by factors like time, clubs involved, local work on sales...?
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And when I’m covering the women’s Euros in three weeks time, I won’t be making constant references to the men’s game. I’ll be discussing it in its own context
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No, it’s exactly what I was doing, and something I know I was doing - since I do it all the time. You’re not talking to “many folk”, you’re talking to someone who has covered multiple women’s tournaments.
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No, that's your own interpretation of how to ascribe importance, that only applies to you, not to anyone else.
I have merely spoken about the men's game in exactly the same way I do the women's: talking about both in their own context.
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the phrasing I used specifically had the words "95 years". The women's World Cup has only been running for 34 years, not 95, something most people know just by knowing how many times each country has won it. When I write about the women's game, I don't bring in lots of stuff from the men's game
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You don’t seem to be registering that my post was solely in the context of the men’s game, something I’ve now repeated several times.
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I didn’t forget it, though. I’m fully aware of what context I’m speaking - this very summer, I’m doing the Women’s Euros, rather than the Club World Cup.
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Only in relation to the Club World Cup. I’m speaking solely in the context of the men’s game. Why would I be comparing the men’s game to the women’s? This is usually considered unhelpful and even misogynistic.
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yes, especially given the wider state of development in the country
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I think there is an interesting debate over whether Oceania should have a direct place, given it doesn't get a direct place to the World Cup (or at least didn't).
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It's true. It was about crowning women's world champions, at a very different point in its history.
By contrast, the men's club game and international game have been around the same length of time, and are obviously interlinked. And we know a lot about the impetus that went into this
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they didn't create the women's event for the same commercial reasons.
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Fifa's intention is literally to create a club version of their immensely commercial successful national team World Cup.
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I didn't forget about it, though. It just wouldn't be much use or any constructive comparing a men's tournament to a women's tournament, given the completely different contexts, and totally different stages of development of the game
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and it's not that "men's sports are the only ones that matter", it's that it's fair enough to compare a men's competition to a men's competition, rather than a men's to a woman's, given that there are completely different contexts
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that's in a competition that has existed for 34 years, not 95, as I mentioned, and thought that was a fair enough signifier.
Also, disparity in the women's World Cup has been a live issue
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in addition, quality disparity has been discussed a lot for the WWC
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None of those are 10-0, though, which was what I said. And while, yes, I should have maybe specified men's, I would have thought it was obvious enough from mentioning 95 years (the women's World Cup has existed nowhere near that long) and the fact this CWC is men's.
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I didn't say it reflected anything, though, just said it took two games, whereas it ha never happened in the World Cup.
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10-0 is a symbolic scoreline, and stands out a bit more than the relative randomness of two teams from different countries playing
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clearly not, as there has been an eight-goal margin of victory in the World Cup
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but you don't combat how Europe-skewed the game is (which was your point there) by subjecting them to a thrashing in a competition that will almost certainly increase disparity
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None of those are 10-0.
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not bothered, I'm simply stating a fact. 10-1 and 9-0 aren't 10-0. It does have a symbolism. Also, in fairness, the question of a confederation champion being in is directly linked to live bigger debates about impact of the CWC on global football
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I was just stating a fact.
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a statement that would be immediately disproved by Fifa's own prize money plans - which will actually increase disparity, not reduce it.
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ha!
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I'm literally just stating a statistic there with no commentary