nefooglewitzer.bsky.social
Historian, writer, book-hoarder, enjoyer of: video games, tabletop games, anime, reading, music. Slightly obsessed with Warhammer 40k.
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"One mouth, two ears."
Also, that canvas is lovely!
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We're talking about a setting with dozens if not hundreds of books, it's difficult to sum up in 300 characters.
Oversimplifying things to create sound bytes leads to misunderstandings (like this meme).
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...strenuously object to the popular narrative that they were power-mad and willfully ignorant.
I apologize if my passion on the subject is tiring, but it's also tiring to see you pushing a narrative that I disagree with and then refusing to engage with opposing points.
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I'm perfectly willing to admit their faults, but when the starting point of the conversation is "Magnus and his Legion did everything wrong" then there's a little course-correction that has to happen first.
Both Magnus and the Legion did wrong, but on balance they were wronged more, and I...
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...combat). Many of the Thousand Sons viewed themselves the same way.
From their perspective, Nikaea wasn't a measured critique, it was a condemnation of their very soul.
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...that you cannot be trusted is not likely to win your cooperation.
I encourage you to read Magnus' Primarch novel. Psychic powers weren't something that he used - like a gun - they were something that he WAS. His Psychic nature was central to his being (and used for a lot more than just...
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...popular conceptions to the contrary). The reason why I use the term "enemies" is because they were not interested in discussion, middle ground, or compromise; and because their concerns were based on prejudice and guilt by association, not facts.
Being told that your kind are dangerous and...
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...an entire class of people because some sorcerers did some bad things sometimes.
That's the distinction that you don't seem to be grasping. Neither I nor I think Magnus would have had any objection to regulating the use of Psychic powers (the TSons were already practicing regulations, despite...
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Except that people aren't born with guns permanently fused to their bodies.
Seriously, go read Mortarion's speech at Nikaea. He's about two steps away from calling for Psyker genocide. That's not a critic arguing for sensible regulation, that's someone ruled by fear and hatred condemning...
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In a real-world context I feel like you would have no problem with this.
Is someone who dislikes you simply by merit of what you are, and who tries to push the government towards restricting your freedoms not because of anything you did but because of how you were born, not an enemy?
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I feel like the word "enemies" is perfectly justifiable in this situation.
A critic is someone like Guilliman, who respects Magnus but has justifiable concerns.
Mortarion and Russ are prejudiced against Psykers, and take a much more hostile and hardline stance because of it.
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Explain how I am misrepresenting what happened.
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...away from Magnus and the Thousand Sons, they were publicly sacrificed for the sake of Unity.
There really is no other convincing explanation for choosing that method to resolve an issue that could otherwise have been handled with a private conference.
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...truly convinced of the dangers of sorcery, there was nothing stopping him from banning it via edict; or better yet, not making the Thousand Sons in the first place.
Nikaea was political theater. It was used to gauge public opinion, and once the Emperor realized that said opinion had swung...
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We're all biased. Don't pretend like you aren't. And choosing to nitpick my choice of words instead of actually addressing my point speaks volumes.
You cannot really think that Nikaea was a good idea. Did anyone who spoke there tell the Emperor anything he didn't know already? If he was...
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...in front of all his peers.
That is one of the least effective ways to get someone to do what you want, ever.
As far as the Emperor talking to Magnus about "the dangers of the Warp," he also went on long Psychic voyages into the Warp with him. Very much "do as I say, not as I do."
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Council of Nikaea was the Emperor allowing Magnus' most prejudiced enemies (come on, don't tell me you honestly think "Throw Psykers into woodchippers" Mortarion or "My Psykers are totally different, guys" Russ are unbiased authorities on the matter) to parade across the stage and eviscerate him...
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And herein lies the problem.
ADB can come out and directly contradict what Graham McNeill wrote in a previous book because he has a hate-boner for Magnus and now no one knows who's actually right any more because of "unreliable narrators."
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This just feels like plausible deniability for the GW writers.
Tzeentch being self-sabotaging is very on-brand, but he doesn't self-sabotage every time, otherwise he would have lost the Great Game by now.
And it's not just Magnus either. Primarch duels are as predictable as WWE matches.
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People also forget that Magnus straight punched a hole in Leman Russ' chest (through his power armor!) with his bare hands.
He is one of the most under-estimated Primarchs, largely because A) he's a nerd, and B) he's a Traitor and thus the story demands he always loses through some contrivance.
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...Space Wolves are out here getting half a dozen new kits, I don't think it's unfair for me to grouse just a little about how we've only had two non-character Astartes infantry units for nine years now.
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I understand, but my response would be; can't we have both?
My - fairly mild, to be honest - disappointment about the Sekhetar has not changed my love for the faction. I'm still going to buy some of those robots and probably enjoy building and painting them.
But in the meantime, when the...
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...since then has been just responding to what you say.
And there's something deeply ironic about "instead of enjoying the cool new thing all you can do is complain about what you didn't get" coming from the person who just got a new range refresh and is complaining about not having predators.
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lmao dude, I don't even dislike the robots, not really. I just would have preferred more Astartes, because I play TSons primarily for the wizard space marines.
All I said was they shouldn't have given the army with the least unique Astartes units the new non-Astartes unit. Everything else...
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...squad of heavy weapons Rubrics led by a proper Numerologist who can repair vehicles)
I could go on.
The Rubric doesn't mean everyone in the Legion is identical. There is still plenty of lore to draw from for new units, but dusty and flesh-and-blood.
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Plenty of ways:
- Khenetai Occult Blades (could be Rubricae, since we've seen how Scarabs can fight in SM2)
- Some sort of "Seer Council"-type unit of lesser sorcerers
- Sekhmet Terminators as a Scarab Occult alternative (like how DG have Blightlords and Deathshroud)
- Numerologists (perhaps a...
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That was my whole point, though. If they were going to pick a marine faction to get a non-marine unit, it shouldn't have been the one that currently has the smallest number of marine units.
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Emperor's Children have more non-character Marine units than TSons do, even if you count Infractors and Tormentors as the same since they come in the same box.
-Infractors/Tormentors
-Noise Marines
-Flawless Blades
as opposed to
-Rubric Marines
-Scarab Occult Terminators
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The problem is they picked the wrong marine army to get "not more marines" stuff.
TSons have 6 marine kits (counting Ahriman), and 4 of them are characters.
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...why did he put the word "fictional" in quotation marks though?
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Every faction in the game needs a "Get a new joke" rule, for real.
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Me but with writing.
I still remember the glorious feeling of the story taking on a life of its own. Felt like I was channeling some legit magic and the characters were alive and making their own decisions.
Then life got hard and it sometimes feels like I've lost the inspiration.
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I would argue that the pre-Heresy TSons were much closer to an actually "good faction" - preserving the knowledge of xenos and divergent cultures, spreading education and quality of life, making Prospero a paradise - but we all know what happened there.
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Yes, but - they don't understand humanity. Like, at all. There was a HH book where a Space Marine had to step in because a Custodian was failing so completely to interact with a human child.
They want what the Emperor thinks is best for humanity, and he doesn't have the best track record either.
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In their headcanon universe, the poor somehow-still-white equatorial Fenrisians are getting horrifically sunburned every day because incels don't understand how melanin works.
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...Ultramar - be the same ethnicity or skin color?
Just because the Space Wolves use Viking aesthetics does not mean they are actually Vikings. They're basically cosplayers.
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The fact that there is an explicit lore blurb makes it even funnier, but in general with people upset about black Space Wolves, black Ultramarines, etc., I honestly wonder if they understand how planets work.
Why would everyone on an entire planet - let alone everyone in the 500 Worlds of...
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I don't think they know about much of anything, to be completely honest.
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"Any Greek sculpture ever," as if the ancient Greeks weren't one of the gayest civilizations to ever exist.
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"I was only following orders" type shit.
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I mean this - or something very much like it - basically has to be correct, otherwise there's no way humans became Ogryns, Ratlings, Nightsiders, Longshanks etc. after only a few tens of thousands of years in space. Evolution doesn't happen that fast on its own.
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How long before we reinvent the whole "the sky is a bunch of crystal spheres" thing from classical antiquity?
As if flat-earthers weren't bad enough...
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All the Space Marine fanboys who want to believe Boltgun is canon get real quiet whenever someone brings up Fire Warrior.
It's such a unique game because it was made before GW discovered that Space Marine stuff makes 5x the money of everything else. We'll probably never get another like it.
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Or they're going to do the Baldur's Gate thing and pretend that it was never really woke to begin with.
Maybe because it features one male character and one female character and thus represents heterosexuality or some shit, I dunno. They'll find a way.
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People throwing a fit over bad TV adaptations of their favorite franchises are WEAK.
I'm a historian. I've been dealing with bad TV adaptations for my entire life.
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A World Undone, by G. J. Meyer.
I have yet to read any other WWI book that is simultaneously so comprehensive and so readable. A bit dated (was published in 2006) but one of my favorite books of all time.
Also, Storm of Steel, by Ernst Junger. A 1st person account of the war by a German soldier.
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...people from making content like that.
It's a minor problem in the grand scheme of things but it's a pet peeve of mine and is turning the community into an even bigger cult than it already was.
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...flooded - and I mean FLOODED - with variations on the same "joke."
"Heresy" / "Yes Inquisitor, this one right here" / et cetera, ad nauseum.
Not only is it uncreative and not funny, it just feels like they can't stand to not be the center of attention for five seconds, and it disincentivizes...
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As somebody in the 40k fandom who enjoys Chaos, boy howdy do I sure resonate with this statement.
On the rare occasions when someone creates and posts fan content about non-Imperium characters or factions - especially, Gods forbid, defeating an Imperium faction in some way - the comments will be...
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The fact that he is popular AT ALL will never cease to baffle me, let alone him having as much influence as he apparently does in some circles.
The man is literally a cartoon character, a walking, talking parody of all the bad aspects of "gamer culture" given horrible sentience but no intelligence.