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Here we go again. *sigh*
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this sounds like something that's hilarious in theory but exactly the opposite of hilarious in reality
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The blackpill about AI is that it shows us how slop was all that the average Creative-Art-As-Entertainment Consumer really ever wanted, and that they didn't (and don't) care whether anyone got fairly compensated for producing it.
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You're right that being Taylor Swift takes genuine talent in multiple areas, but there are a plenty of people who couldn't carry a tune in a bucket who nonetheless became popular as "musical entertainers"
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=CORA...
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historians in the year 3425: "Lacking contemporary records we can't really tell what these symbols meant, but their appearance mostly in the rear windows of open-compartment service vehicles suggests that one use of that space was for urination while at a work area..."
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Weta got heat for doing Lord Of The Rings, and you know what? It was all practical!
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You think that, but you haven't got a kid who has read all of the Warrior Cats books (current count: 594, not including spinoffs) and is jonesing *hard* for more of them.
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and in fact that will be what "popular entertainer" means, that you're a Personality first and any kind of artist a distant second. A future where every celebrity is Richard Simmons or Kim Kardashian.
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but this is what I mean when I say that AI is gonna kill jobbers, because you could totally have gotten something like that before AI - but you'd have had to pay a local band to write it, perform it, and record it. Now it's free! And that local band can go flip burgers.
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I was in a harbor freight a while back and the manager had AI generated country about the store playing and it was indistinguishable from actual bro country beyond the inclusion of "Harbor Freight" every few bars.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=CORA...
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heheheheh at my wedding the one guest my dad spent any amount of time talking to was my podcaster buddy's girlfriend, who could be described as "alternative".
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historians in the year 3425: "Lacking contemporary records we can't really tell what these symbols meant, but their appearance mostly in the rear windows of open-compartment service vehicles suggests that one use of that space was for urination while at a work area..."
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traveling back in time to Imperial Rome with a printing press and plates for Pokemon cards, six months later I'm the emperor
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I think a lot of people are used to things having been built with so much excess capacity that they can absorb inefficiency and age-related degradation without losing their ability to function, and so they don't recognize that the world needs to be created and maintained.
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a really common story of these past few months seems to be "I didn't think Trump meant *me*, I thought he meant all those *other* dudes"
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no, that was actually Shaq, you're misremembering because a lot of people on the internet also think it happened
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I blinked and said "yeah, guess so?" She rolled her eyes, said "this guy here wants something", pulled a Bluetooth earpiece from behind her hair, and said "yeah?"
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Conversations with integrated microphones will never work in public places. One time while waiting in line, the woman ahead of me looked me full in the face and said "this is a fucking shitty cunt of a day"...
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"PC Load Letter? What the fuck does THAT mean?!"
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although you *know* they get a hundred emails every year from people who get headaches from reading words, blindly clicked-through everything, and now are upset that Their Health Insurance Costs So Much Money...
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also Armadillo Aerospace (John Carmack's attempt to start his own rocket company like what Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos did, they had a couple test failures and he gave up on the idea)
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Although 38 Studios got sued because it signed up for a bunch of tax breaks and then didn't deliver on its end of the bargain, so maybe the lesson is "if you're going to fund a project yourself then you actually have to do that, don't try to run it like a business"
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There were people who nonironically jacked off to this:
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This is why:
www.gamesindustry.biz/curt-schilli...
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They're also probably looking at how "38 Studios" turned out:
www.gamesindustry.biz/curt-schilli...
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The "Librarian" in "Snow Crash" is, I think, a good example of what AI is going to be like. It can't make its own analogies or comparisons or judgements, but it can quote ones that it has in its database.
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The thing AI won't be able to do is create *new* knowledge. It can make new fiction that echoes existing fiction or knowledge, but something genuinely new - a connection, an insight, an emotion - will need to be done by humans. (and the AI can promptly copy it, of course.)
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I think it's because "fat/thin" has so much of the English language pushing it as the duality, and there's no real juice behind something like "obese/healthy" (which gives a space for "larger body but within the range that supports expected quality-of-life".)
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"If I could have done this differently myself then I'd have already done it differently the first time!"
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It is really weird to remember how people were angrier about the fact that these ads would pop up new browser windows than that they were that the whole theme of the ad campaign was "creepshots"...
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Your posts suggest that movies should be challenging to the viewer and present an artist's personal vision, but that also movies should be unchallenging fantasy tailored specifically to the viewer. (I think both are acceptable but the post I'm responding to suggests the latter is not desirable.)
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regrettably, "make it horny so they'll click" has been part of internet advertising since the concept was invented
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It's like grabbing a bucket of Lego blocks and building something. The pieces already exist and you're choosing the ones you like and defining the goal, but you're still the one doing the actual work of pushing the process to completion.
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I put in the general parameters I want, and the AI generates some stock characters with a little random-roll individuality, sets out the goals, creates the environments, and that's a couple hours' noodling around with a sense of direction and closure.
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I think "full AI-generated narrative" will still be clocked fairly easily, but I also think "side story in role-playing-game" can probably be done by AI to the required degree of quality as easily as it can by a human team.
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And people still pay for albums...but the last few pieces of physical media I bought were semi-premium products, including special-edition bonus merch or a signed disc or something, and there was no "just the CD" version.
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I maintain that Steve Jobs's greatest achievement was the iTunes Store, convincing music labels to allow downloading at the same time they were actively suing Napster and MP3-dot-com.
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Back in the 1990s they had the idea that the Internet would be run mostly by "Intelligent Agents" that would pick through all the available knowledge and find what the human operators were looking for. I guess we're actually doing that now!
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If I'm just looking for background beats while I work, I'd think that an AI random-roller can do that as well as a human could. I'd be happy to find that a human got paid but I actually don't want something that took too much time and care because I'm not paying much attention to it anyway.
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"organic food labeling laws" but for AI-created or AI-assisted media. "at least 90% of the creative work must be directly guided by human actions" to be certified as "non-AI", if it's 75% it's "AI-assisted", anything else is "AI created"...
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I think you're trying to have it both ways here.
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The top end will still make money, just like it does today (people still buy Taylor Swift albums even though you can find everything she's ever made online for free) but, e.g., people whose whole thing was "background music" won't be able to make a career out of that.
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...so there won't really be room for "replacement level creators", no reason to pay triple the cost of an AI spread for something that's only a little better than that AI spread.
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I mean, "the future of art is performance" has been a thing ever since Napster showed up and made it clear that people would rather take stuff for free than pay for it. AI is pushing that even further.
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What's going to happen with AI is that it'll kill the idea of art-as-profession, the jobbers, the people who write advertising jingles and do design layouts for local grocery-store posters and shoot commercials for diarrhea medication. AI will do all that well enough for the purpose...
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Why is that a bad thing to want?
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I mean, there's so many articles about this-or-that film that go "we did all the effects in practical and it was so much better for the actors, it was so much easier for them to perform" and then productions just...keep on *not* doing that!
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One of those moments where you're at a party and someone tells you a story that you're clearly meant to laugh at, and instead you're like "wait, you did *what* to the guy's car?"
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"see that guy? he dies at the end."
"okay honey this is it, this is the part where he goes on the Impossible Mission."