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SoCal born and where I remain for now. Proud dad. Books, Baseball, Beer and Soccer in no particular order.
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7 years of remarkable endurance and then last year the wheels started to come off a bit. There were indicators I guess.
The 7 year stretch have to be looked at as an outlier now.
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You are wildly off the mark here. Wildly.
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Yes
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That has to be on the Mt Rushmore of dodged bullets.
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Eric…..
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On the flip side, do we really believe that the 10-11 owners whose teams have payrolls below that of the NBA floor are going to say “sure, we’ll double our payroll so teams in LA and NY won’t spend”?
Never mind the fact that the system kicks in nearly 1/2 of the CBT taxes into the rev share pool 🤪
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I believe 11 MLB teams have payrolls below that of the NBA floor (a sport with far lower revenues)
People actually believe that owners in Pittsburgh, Denver, Cincinnati etc… are going to adopt a system that will have them double their payroll so the Mets can’t spend $1B in an offseason?
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Is Passan officially here?
For awhile the account here was just someone reposting his X content.
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Except it isn’t. Under no circumstances was he going to get paid $70M a year. It was never a discussion.
The crowdsourced projections for his contract was 10/460ish and that’s exactly where he ended up relative to the CBT. If he didn’t want deferrals, that’s the deal he would have ended up with
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Is it also worth noting that Friedman made it very clear that this was going to be their strategy? He has said repeatedly that they wanted to spend now and not in July. 🤷🏼♂️
Is it also worth noting that they haven’t committed the most salary this off season? It’s not even close.
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Eric
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My man. LA has been at the max 50% penalty since 2023….before Ohtani signed. Clearly they will be taxed and penalized at the max rate for the foreseeable future along with the hit to their draft pick slot.
They’ve avoided nothing by agreeing to Ohtani’s contract demands. 🤷🏼♂️
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You’re living in a fantasy world here. The conditions you are pining for don’t exist. The dodgers *are* paying a tax on every dollar over each threshold that the was agreed upon collectively by the players and owners.
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Just so we are clear here….are you referring to the 10 payments of $68M that kick in after the contract expiration? If so, those do *not* count against whatever tax threshold that will be in place down the line.
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See? You’re getting it. Every team can choose to go the route of deferrals.
Nothing “artificial” about it. We’ve been over that already.
Of course there are other reasons for a player to choose LA, NY or Chicago over Cincinnati or KC other than money but you know that already don’t you?
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You all went from “they choke every off season despite all that money” to “they’re ruining baseball” based on the results of one improbable run in October.
Nothing has changed really. Baseball is still going to baseball. 🤷🏼♂️
LA is incredibly well run. Players will always be attracted to that
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No. It shouldn’t. The owners and players agreed to this structure. It’s not a loophole. There are advantages to BOTH parties to have this arrangement which explains why it exists.
Deferrals have been around for a long time. Did you complain this much when Scherzer deferred $100m?
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This is partially incorrect. For the CBT/Luxury tax they are taxed on the present day value of the contract. In Ohtani’s case the luxury tax bill is $46M/yr. The savings aren’t nearly what they’re made out to be.
Ohtani’s contract was solely his idea and 2 other teams agreed to pay it. 🤷🏼♂️
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Huh? They are paying the luxury tax on his contract. 🤷🏼♂️
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Are you aware how much the Dodgers are paying for Roki?
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Accurate take.
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You truly are in the weeds here. Nine of this is true when it comes to this signing. None of it.
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Correct. Signing bonuses that any team in MLB could have paid him if they so chose. In fact, other teams could have paid him MORE but he chose LA. 🤷🏼♂️
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You are clueless. It’s a minor league deal and he doesn’t have to be added to the 40 man roster if they so choose.
It’s no different than the deal Ohtani signed when he went to the Angels. 🤷🏼♂️
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Incorrect. He spoke with far more than 3 teams. What he boiled his choices down to is irrelevant. Any team had the ability and means to sign him ….but it was his choice in the end.
The OP is suggesting that LA somehow “bought” Rouki and that’s just silly. It’s a minor league deal.
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I’ve read several ignorant posts today covering a variety of topics but this one is by far the most.
You have absolutely zero clue how deferred compensation works in MLB and why it exists. Just admit it and carry on with your day.
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lol. You realize this is a minor league contract and any team could have signed him….right?
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Even that wasn’t original.
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Remind me again what the base property tax rate in California is?
….it needs to be LOWER than that?
Oh fuck off.
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Are you completely unaware of how deferrals are handled in MLB?
Something tells me that you might be.
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0 chance of that happening.
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They are required to escrow the money and the contract counts against the CBT so……🤷🏼♂️
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That’s not how this works but do go on….
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Found one
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Nearly 3800 ABs over 12 seasons and he managed to accumulate a whopping 4 WAR. 😳
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The folks over at If Books Could Kill did a nice job on Haidt’s book.
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Nah
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The market disagrees with you
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Neither do the owners nor the MLBPA both of whom agreed to this facet of the CBA. It is in no way a loophole. The language in the CBA is very clear and intentional 🤷🏼♂️
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I do enjoy people droning on how deferrals are “loopholes” in the system. 🤪
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*leagal 😏
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This is about as random as a signing as you’ll see…right?
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Playoff expansion is also a significant factor here. The easier it is to make the post season (in a sport where randomness runs amok) = less incentive to spend.
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The contract was Ohtani’s idea and the same exact deal was offered to multiple teams and both SF and Toronto agreed to the structure….he just chose LA in the end. 🤷🏼♂️
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Nah. He’s never been a regular part of any rotation at the MLB level but he’s totally going to crack a rotation already containing Snell, Glasnow, Yamamoto, Ohtani, Gonsolin, Kershaw and probably Roki Sasaki. 🤪