tannercampbell.net
🧑🧑🧒 Family man
🏛️ Philosopher of Stoicism
🇺🇸 American born
🇬🇧 UK resident
📚 Author of "What Is Stoicism?"
🎙️ Host of Practical Stoicism
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Are you available for hire?
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Really like that name, “Code and Character.” Great name.
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The more I look at it, @rasmusp.bsky.social, the more I love it.
That you embodied the Stoics love of Nature (and nature) by turning an ornate MARBLE column into an ornate WOODEN column is brilliant.
I'm putting you in my Roladex for my next book. I hope you're available then.
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also, I'm going to stop replying because it's takig me ages to correct my spellig after my son dropped my mecaical keyboard o te floor. (unedited for yor ejoymet).
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I don't think they do leave that out. I think they would say uncertainty in concerns to moral knowledge was something we had to overcome, but certainly that wouldn't be the case in all other domains of knowing.
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And yes, the Stoics imply the the Universe is understandable when they suggested that impressions were the criterion of truth -- you're right about that -- though they do not directly say this... and I think they more so meant that moral choices were possible through examination of impressions.
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I see. I hope this doesn't come off as rude, but this is a poor reading of the Stoics.
The Cosmos are "providential" because, as a self-sustaining system it necessarily gives everything which is a part of it an opportunity fulfill it nature -- but this providence is categorically not human-centric.
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I'm a little confused then, did you mean to say that Stoicism doesn't seem Greek because it says the "gods" are friendly to us?
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Is it very Greek to believe that Gods are friendly to humans?
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You could try our book (published by New World Library, November 2024). Arguably the most accessible: stoicismpod.com/book
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It’s a good program. Congratulations.
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Interested in a philosopher of Stoicism attending and participating?
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Who is speaking? Would love to be on future speaker invite lists.
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That subtitle is making me randy. Love that someone else is potentially calling DoC problematic.
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Ah, well then I will follow you. But are you aware of moderation lists here on Bluesky? I use them to keep people out of the Stoicism Feed I deployed here. bsky.app/profile/did:...
Read about them here if not: buffer.com/resources/bl...
Once on a mod list, a person cannot remove themselves.
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It is ironic that the head is missing... the seat of the hegemonikon, of the daemon.
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Because (actual) Stoicism is really useful (for the individual and the social whole).
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We agree then: CBT and Internet-Stoicism aren’t actual Stoicism. As a philosopher of Stoicism, I’m trying to make the distinction clear: those things aren’t Stoic theory/philosophy even if many people have been convinced they are. We need to reeducate to fix. practicalstoicism.net/p/what-is-st...
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But that’s not what Stoicism does… that’s what fuckboys on the internet who want to brainwash young men do, and they co-opt the word Stoicism to legitimise their bullshit. Stoicism isn’t about training yourself not to feel… that’s is categorically unstoic. stoicismliteracy.com
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In any event, and not to be rude (and I hope I'm not being), I have some projects I need to get started on this morning. Thanks for this back and forth, maybe I'll have more thoughts later in the day and we can continue. Until then (if then comes), take care.
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That feels disingenuous. I read the highlighted part, which is why I commented. It suggests that "Communism" is the "correct" interpretation of Zeno's ideal republic. And, again, I've read the book... so I know that MS does all but flat out say that Communism is the "most Stoic" form of government.
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I didn't see a thread, I just saw your post. Minarchism isn't Zenotopianism either... and it might align with STOICISM (Stoicism is government-agnostic because Stoicism is hegemonikonically centered; government is irrelevant to its practice) but it would be incompatible with Zenotopianism.
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Seems you're misreading me here. I'm only saying that, for want of a word for it, "Zenotopianism" is logically distinct and incompatible with any of those others I mentioned. Also, Zenotopianism isn't Stoicism it's a young Zeno's theory of what global sagehood would result in.
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I don't know how Zeno could have directly repudiated Communism (1800s), Anarchism (1900s), Fascism (1900s), Capitalism (1500s?), or Socialism (1900s). What I'm saying is that his ideas are independent of those, and unique, and shouldn't be co-opted to reinforce their validity (or deny their value)
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I have.
Stoicism isn't sagehood, it's the pursuit of it.
An aim doesn't need to be achievable to make striving for it worthwhile (perfect health isn't achievable, perfect fitness, perfect mathematical knowledge, perfect parenting, perfect partnerships)
I've written and spoken extensively on this
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I'm certain you've misread what I wrote there. The takeaway is that Zeno's ideas weren't Communism -- nor were they Capitalism, Socialism, Fascism, or Anarchism (though they'd be closest to Anarchism; but who's keeping score?) -- they were Zeno's own, completely original, and yet-unreplicated, ideas
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It is also worth noting that his Republic was penned in his much earlier years and it's not at all clear whether he'd have held the same ideas valid or logical at 70.
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Saghood is functionally impossible, as is Zeno's perfect city and the aims of Communism. Zeno's Republic wasn't put forth as a form of government or social structure, it was a fantastical utopian "what if?" No community can be made from the outside in, only inside out. You can't MAKE Zeno's Republic
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Communism, as conceived of back to and since its formal invention, is, in my opinion, an affront to Zeno's republic in that Communism is anything but the idea of a community of morally perfect citizens (sages) (as would be any alternative that wasn't Zeno's). Also, functionally impossible (no sages)