Real, when the wages employers offer is not enough to live off and they want to ask us workers to do more and more work, without additional compensation than yah we are done. I don’t think it’s bad at all to switch jobs , multiple times even until you find the right one.
Yes, you are correct. Social media, freedom of speech, interaction. It's also called reality, you don't own virtual spaces, as you very clearly are trying to.
Yeah, this thread is even FB reminiscent. Critique a system that rewards billionaires and crushes the marginalised and underprivileged? All you'll get is "Pull up your bootstraps, filthy leftist!".
Not true, the job aids that no one is applying to are not even real jobs lol. You see mcdonalds is always hiring but they aren't. What those ads are is "please apply so I can see what the current market rate is, if any one of my employs acts out, i have 100 resumes to replace them with..."
I remember back in my university days, in a tutorial when someone started talking about worker exploitation. "But they're not exploited", replied my professor. "They can always leave".
He's correct. Exploitation implies you have no choice.
Exploitation implies you have no choice...if you don't know the meaning of the word.
To Exploit a worker would be to treat them unfairly in order to benefit from their work, period. Underpayment, for example, in order to reap a greater benefit from employees work.
I literally put the DEFINITION of exploitation in my comment, and no where does it say there is a requirement to not be able to leave.
So your comment of "if you can leave you aren't being exploited" is OBJECTIVELY false. Words have meaning, those meanings don't change for your narrative.
I remember when I was young, we had millionaires, because people were paid a fair wage, at least fairer than that is now. (And with benefits) Now it's all cost cutting, and greedflation. Elon Musk is going to say let them eat cake, and we're going to have a REAL problem on our hands.
I have a masters in business and two accounting degrees.
No text-book I ever read would call what we have "capitalism."
We live in an oligarchic, inverse totalitarian police state.
It's a big circle. Worker feels exploited. Leaves company starts business to support family and be free.
Business grows and now ex exploited worker, hires others to keep up with production.
Ex exploited worker becomes the exploiter by making more money than workers he's hired to run his business.
This is a fun little roleplay. It creates a comforting alternate world from our own where corporations are actually conducting mass layoffs and they only project they'll increase after Black Friday. Everyone's getting the axe and people who do politics but not labor don't seem to notice at all.
Hahahahahahahhaahhahahahhaha one of the dumbest lines I've seen. I guess if you don't want to be EXPLOITED you want to live in a box under a bridge some where.
Hahahaahahahahahahha
Most oligarchs get rich by knowing a banker that will give them trillion dollar loans.
Then, the billionaire can use the loans to buy politicians and get Pentagon contracts to pay off the loans.
I think people are just spoiled, if you don't want to work for some compensation don't , if you are unhappy about your current status, think of your path out. Simple
If you just ignore over half the population sadly 😭 tbh I hate the demonization of capitalism because 99% of the time socialists seem to be talking about a capital based system with worker owned means of productions. Which I’m all for, but we have to admit at some point it’s still capital
The thing that's always wild about this to me is that I absolutely know for a fact that a lot of the people who I heard this line from didn't want to work anymore either, with how much they constantly were complaining about work at work. That is when I realized its just a dog whistle of some sort.
Never claimed to be perfect. I do at least try to avoid punching down when possible however, or being a hypocrite for that matter as is the case when I hear people who don't want to work complaining that "nobody does". For context: I do live somewhere where that line is just a political buzzword.
The people who "don't want to work" complaining about others not wanting to work... by your description (bitching about their jobs) they are STILL working... so ot isn't hypocrisy to be upset about people literally NOT working; which is what they THINK they are talking about
The reality is; people just don't want to work THERE, for THEM. They have been fooled into thinking people just sit home and do nothing when really they are just refusing to work for companies that exploit.
No one WANTS to work, but we do, and chose to work where we are paid well.
That said I do agree with this sentiment here anyways? That people shouldn't be expected to work for companies who want to exploit them if they don't have to.
My complaint is that many of the people using the phrase in my local area just want other people to be exploited just like them.
I mean in a lot of these cases, that are my personal experience it is "a particular older generation of coworkers complaining about younger ones' work ethics in a way that lets them act like they are superior, because they picked up the phrase from Fox News and think the youth are ruining things"
Everyone has to work for what they want. In America you can do anything you want. No one is making you work anywhere! But if you don't work, you won't live comfortably. Your choice.
Some choice. You still think the superich are heroes to be impressed by. They are predators, completely disconnected with the people who made them rich.
Some choice?? You gave all the choice everyone else has! You made choices, did your choices work out? Are you looking for equal outcomes in life. I've never been hired by anyone poor. I have worked my whole adult life, but I don't begrudge the rich. Why would I? You do understand what envy is?
You seem to think the government is responsible for you & everyone else. This is a free country, you are free to be what you want, you're free to be rich & free to be poor. Your parents are supposed to teach you personal responsibility & a good work ethic
You’re not free to be rich. Your belief that it’s nothing more than a choice is mockably false and you look like an ignorant foolish child to claim such things.
If Americans don't want the work for the exploitation and low salaries, then there are always the immigrants.
Left and right invite them in for cheap labor, even if they say and claim otherwise.
Labor is a commodity, we learned this during covid. Suddenly the big box stores and Amazon could pay their workers more. They raised rates to attract new workers.
Red States have their workers in a strangle hold. Labor needs to rise up and learn their own value.
The CFO where I worked had a green ceiling of $50,000 a year. As I saw my raises get smaller approaching that I told the plant manager either I saw that next year or they could find a replacement.
When I retired I was over $65,000.
Oh yes...the idea that people are once again, are overestimating their worth.
You aren't worth anything to anyone, when you have the educational equivalent of hockey puck.
People can take a risk all they want, own the means of production but still there is no value without labor...making the risk itself isnt the valuable part.
To me this is funny bc republicans applauded when companies were treated like individuals, but when individuals started to behave like companies maximizing profit at the expense of employers, they just lost their shit
They could not grasp that eventually employers would be getting the same kinds of treatment that they have been giving the rest of us. That's why they lost their shit.
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To make it more like like the original.
A comment section with a block list!
Nice
He's correct. Exploitation implies you have no choice.
To Exploit a worker would be to treat them unfairly in order to benefit from their work, period. Underpayment, for example, in order to reap a greater benefit from employees work.
So your comment of "if you can leave you aren't being exploited" is OBJECTIVELY false. Words have meaning, those meanings don't change for your narrative.
No text-book I ever read would call what we have "capitalism."
We live in an oligarchic, inverse totalitarian police state.
Business grows and now ex exploited worker, hires others to keep up with production.
Ex exploited worker becomes the exploiter by making more money than workers he's hired to run his business.
Hahahaahahahahahahha
Then, the billionaire can use the loans to buy politicians and get Pentagon contracts to pay off the loans.
"What? No! That's completely unsustainable!"
"Ugh! Nobody wants to do business anymore."
When people are unhappy; they bitch. Calling this a dog whistle because people are bitching about a job that makes them miserable is willful ignorance
The people who "don't want to work" complaining about others not wanting to work... by your description (bitching about their jobs) they are STILL working... so ot isn't hypocrisy to be upset about people literally NOT working; which is what they THINK they are talking about
No one WANTS to work, but we do, and chose to work where we are paid well.
My complaint is that many of the people using the phrase in my local area just want other people to be exploited just like them.
Left and right invite them in for cheap labor, even if they say and claim otherwise.
#6'Elon
Better usage is something like this - not perfect but still
Red States have their workers in a strangle hold. Labor needs to rise up and learn their own value.
When I retired I was over $65,000.
You aren't worth anything to anyone, when you have the educational equivalent of hockey puck.
One even tried to tell me "bigot" was a slur LMFAO