I do. I also think we can't act on it because we spent 4 years knocking down their unfounded claims. Sometimes, I wonder if that was the Rethug goal all along. The point of accusing others of what you're guilty of.
We can, of course, act. I was being somewhat facetious. But without proof. We sound exactly like they did. As an AZ resident, I also heard it from Kari Lake, which was excruciatingly annoying. Screaming into the wind won't solve anything. It turns people off of your cause.
The fact that there were bomb threats in all the counties that were won by Biden in 2020, in every single swing state is suspect. They should’ve audited those counties.
Those polling places were left unattended until cleared. Doesn’t matter if it was only 10 minutes. That’s long enough for somebody to hack into a computer and make adjustments. Especially Elon and his flunkies.
Then it should be easy to prove,,,My point is acting on a belief is no different than MAGA storming the Capitol. And again...I started with "I do". as in I believe The election was stolen. Proving it is important here.
Democrats told progressives, Muslims, students, protesters to fuck off. They need all those people to win. This wasn’t rigged stop acting like MAGA.
Democrats abandoned liberal values and new deal principles. Fix that & maybe they’ll win again.
They wrote a bill that was rejected by the White House and the Senate majority leader wouldnt even bring to the floor. " And so I am, indeed, kept up at night knowing the scale of our vulnerabilities and knowing the actions that
That Russia Penetrated voter data bases. Voting systems are outdated and without a paper trail there is no way to audit the votes. That even voting machines not connected to the internet can have malicious code installed.She brought in a computer science engineer to demonstrate this.
Reach Chapter 9 of her Memoir. Kamala was on the Intelligence Committee. She says said, We are currently under attack by Russia influence campaigns in the 2016 election. That coordinated cyber campaigns against equipment against election equipmen tin at least 18 states and maybe 21.
Kamala also wrote "...Chinese theft of American Intellectual property costs us more than 200 billion anually." An yet we have Elon manufacturing Teslas in China. Sounds like conflict of interest there.
Still believe election was compromised. To think otherwise, is highly naive. 🚀 boy & 🍊💩 made countless statements leading to election, alluding to rigging it. Their actions since, only strengthen that conviction. Unabashedly destroying democracy before our very eyes. Of course they would cheat!
YES! I've said it form the beginning. The remark by Musk if Trump loses he's fucked was about that. and people act like he won without interference, all seven swing states, no way!
Putin reminded him that he was in their debt now that he won... Plus, 45 admitted it at one of his stupid rallies, saying Elon really knows those voting computers “and so we won Pennsylvania”. This has been blatantly obvious and the only shocking thing about it is that nobody is stopping him.
Absolutely, but that’s only one of the ways they cheated. There was also a slow methodical agenda for voter suppression over the past year that added up to probably a few million voters. Those voters would have probably voted democratic.
Its possible that some people only voted the top of the ticket & left the rest blank. I drive in & all around Charlotte for work and sadly, there were MANY Trump yard signs. Many.
How can all of them go to trump? Statically that sounds seem right. I'm expecting any day now for trump to admit he rigged it. Nothing will happen to him either
Firmly believe the one line of code was changed .
Otherwise how can it be blue all the way but red for the #1 thing?
At least here in Tennessee i feel that happened.
Can you prove it WITHIN the bounds of reasonable doubt? I haven't heard anything. If you don't have proof, why would you totally believe it?
One thing I heard was that a UPS driver was seen ditching ballots. Good grief. That is Giuliani-level garbage.
They didn't try to get votes
Were saying & doing outrageous bullshit days before the election
Musk pays one million to some voters.
Joe Rogan said Musk knew Trump won
(4 hrs before the election was ever called)
It’s totally possible because literally every time I’ve tried to use my brain and said “oh no…” I’ve been wrong so now I just assume anything might be true, how about faked assassination attempt? Something about that entire event just doesn’t sit right with me
I’ve been convinced since dems won all the swing states at state and local level but not federal. And that several skylinks crashed and burned immediately after election. It wouldn’t be hard
I know. It sounded like an admission of guilt, and if there's something there, let's hear it.
But we all know Trump is an imbecile who lies and can't speak English properly. Why would he boast about cheating? More likely he was trying to say "Musk stopped the other side cheating". A standard lie.
... “he will become even more erratic, impulsive, paranoid, and aggressive than he already is.” And that, he says, is the most frightening aspect: “A demented malignant narcissist as president of the United States would have unimaginably catastrophic consequences.”
“Unlike normal aging, which is characterized by forgetting names or words, Trump repeatedly shows something very different: confusion about reality,” Psychiatrist Lance Dodes, Formerly of Harvard
How many hints do we need?
Trump saying he doesn't need the votes!
Elon's son X saying "We just quietly do whatever we want"and "They will never know" about the election.
Ken Paxton saying that Elon is responsible for stealing the battle ground states with his rocket science.
I can go on and on
Seems like Elon has some dirt that he does not want to be convicted on. Doesn't need to have to do with elections - market manipulation as well as being in bed with Putin and Xi come to mind...
Please do go on. I looked for a single source listing all the things said by Donny and Elonia re: what Musk did or what anyone has found they did to help/rig for Donny to “win”. Have not found one. Why is that I wonder🤔
Trump saying he doesn't need the votes? Big-man-posing. Elon same. They try to blow up their importance and power in the eyes of the public. Juvenile boasting.
My take is that not technology, but gerrymandering and disenfranchement of voters did play a part (but not necessarily a big enough part).
The problem is that you have to use estimations about how people voted whose votes were not counted - usually you try to extrapolate via background, but there is a huge margin of error. So the math is a little bit dodgy.
They have admitted this numerous times and many ways, but noone seems to listen because they have us so afraid to claim election fraud, because that is what they are doing. There is a reason Elon wants all our information. For the next election.
What he said was that because the 2020 election was "rigged" he ran again and now he will be president in 2028. And before you bite my head off, I am not in favor of this guy.
Magical thinking will not help us move forward. We lost because too many democrats either didn't vote or voted third party. Some even voted for the opposition because we were busy trying to tell them their concerns were not that bad.
Duh. The only polling locations where there were bomb threats were in the swing states. The only tight races were in the swing state. Of course he did.
The more I watch congress do nothing. The media do nothing. The general public do nothing. The more I'm convinced those old rich guys were in it together from the start. They just pretended to be oposition to shut us up.
For sure 100% , And they did it openly with help from all of the MAGA, Proud Boys, Republicans, And they did it because they were convinced that 2020 was stolen. They don’t care about civility, they don’t have empathy for anyone except themselves. That was the last Election that we will have.
Me too, but then Trump thanked Musk for using his computer skills and knowledge of voting machines to help him win PA. I don't know how else to interpret that.
Gerrymandering or voter suppression. Voted by and legally implemented by several states. I saw it coming when Biden became president. The Republicans worked hard to legally make voting not fair and easy for the ones who won't vote for them.
If he could get away with it and figure out how he would definitely do it but Trump talking out of his ass one time about PA does not constitute evidence and I don't think Elon has the intellectual ability to pull that off in one state, much less 7. Some of those states had a Dem SOS
Nope. She lost it all on her own by refusing to distance herself from Joe Biden, who in turn refused to step down after promising to be a transitional figure, and Barak Obama, who chose Hillary over Joe in 2016, thus guaranteeing Trump 1.0 & 2.0.
Instafollow there. There is a simple golden rule. See what we are saying? How did we feel when the other side said it? Did it seem legitimate? Did it make them look foolish? Did they provide evidence?
Elon overheard saying that if Trump didn't win, he'd (Musk) would probably end up in prison is enough to convince me...https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=563875362762645
💯 Been saying this since the election. You’d have to not be paying attention/not care or naive to believe he won all swing states. There is no in between.
I just checked my FB account and feed, I found 0 instances of anti Trump/Musk postings (including mine). It appears that in yet another win for “free speech”, all criticism of the current regime is being scrubbed.
A number of you are spouting that this is a conspiracy theory and I wonder that myself but……there’s enough evidence that this warrants looking into much deeper rather than just brushing it off. Ask yourself. What if this turns out to be true?
Remember when the Orange Traitor Puppet told his followers they needed to only vote one more time. Many of us were alarmed but still unsure. I think we now know why he said that.
I thought that when Trump supporters said that, without evidence, that it was outrageous. It demeaned them, and it demeaned the electoral process itself. So why would I believe it now? It's possible, but where's the evidence? Are we all Mike Lindell now?
Didn't Fox have to pay $787 million to Dominion, over accusations that their voting machines were connected to the internet and had votes changed? If they weren't connected in 2024, how were they hacked?
voting machines can be hacked by techs behind the scenes. like what leon and cohorts are doing at the fed departments. can you say positively that leon did NOT have access to voting machine codes in swing states? i am not claiming votes were changed, but that bullet ballots were added to the count.
I have read how the electoral system is designed to make it more difficult for minorities and black voters, among others, to cast their vote. I believe you completely. It can be called election fraud. I have a hard time believing that there have been fake votes casted and voting machines manipulated
I am fully confident if Jesus Christ returned today, stood on the steps of the White House, and preached his message of equality, tolerance, peace, kindness, love, compassion, and humanity, Trump would have him hanged in Lafayette Park on live TV. And Trump supporters would cheer.
They're a cult, you can't reason with them. You need to get those on the fence. Don't argue with MAGA, shut them down by showing others how stupid they are. They have zero clue about the issues. They're cheering this insanity on. I'm done trying to explain nicely to these traitors.
I can’t believe there was ever a doubt! It was blatantly obvious but rather than protecting our democracy Dems elected for the noble “peaceful transfer of power” optic. Why no forensic audit when Dems knew the stakes?
The other thing I would love to see info on are the ones Elon gave 1 mil to for signing a petition. Were those people close to their states election processes?
Because of the craziness in the MAGA cult, the critical thinkers of the Democratic Party are being pushed aside and not taken seriously! We are not them! We have critical thinking skills!!! We’re not wearing tinfoil hats!!! That’s THEM!
Yup, I was watching with my husband and sister-in-law, and all three of us just kept scrolling on our phones, watching the news and returns in disbelief.
Watching the map live the entire night like i usually do, those numbers were doing crazy shit right in front of my eyes. It was like the real results would come in and then like 200,000 red votes would immediately get added.
Yea and he won every swing state even the one democrats won… Come on nobody is voting for Trump then voting Democrat in the other races…It’s such bullshit that I don’t understand why they are not doing anything😡
Yeah. & the numbers were too perfect. I think they voted for everyone that signed the Pennsylvania pact but didnt actually vote. I think after votes were counted, the computers added all the pact names that didn’t vote as a Trump vote to even shit out in democratic areas of states.
I think the pact was just a way for them to get the personal info of a huge pool of ppl w the promise of money & signatures of their intention to vote for Trump so if ppl sued later they could say that they had signed a promise to vote Trump anyway.
Explains why Pennsylvania & Georgia both voted in 2 democratic senators but somehow had a Trump majority. Machines probs werent voting the whole ballot for the “ghost votes”.
I’ve known that since before the election. Trump & Elon both broadcast repeatedly their plans. Everyone knows but no one does anything. Or perhaps the system is to infiltrated with traitors and their hands are tied. Scary.
There's a lot of evidence, actually. And they did it in severakl ways. They removed over 3 million likely Harris voters from voter rolls. They spread wild misinformation. And finally, they manipulated voting machines with a vote switching algorithm. Check elation truth alliance or Jessica Denson.
Well I firmly believe many of his activities in this election were illegal or amount to some sort of illegal influence and diaper don seems to owe him an awfully big debt which is indicative of having been purchased.
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https://bsky.app/profile/romansmith.bsky.social/post/3lgk4u2kcp22o
I distinguish between
a) RIGGED! (implies satellites, thermostats, trucks w/ boxes of ballots, ballots under tables, people voting 400 times in one day, etc)
and
b) legal methods described by @gregpalast.bsky.social
While (b) can very definitely be called 'rigged,' and very openly happens,
I distinguish between the two by never using the word, 'rigged' ('cause people would think I'm talking about satellites and thermostats if I did)
Was watching when, 'he admitted it' comment was made.
Would give more credence to
https://truthout.org/articles/texas-ag-says-he-helped-trump-win-state-with-his-lawsuit-against-mail-in-ballots/
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/texas-ag-credits-trump-victory-to-blocking-mail-ballots/
Democrats abandoned liberal values and new deal principles. Fix that & maybe they’ll win again.
IS TRAITOROUS TRASH!
I think very important people know that they're just trying to teach Americans a lesson
Otherwise how can it be blue all the way but red for the #1 thing?
At least here in Tennessee i feel that happened.
One thing I heard was that a UPS driver was seen ditching ballots. Good grief. That is Giuliani-level garbage.
Were saying & doing outrageous bullshit days before the election
Musk pays one million to some voters.
Joe Rogan said Musk knew Trump won
(4 hrs before the election was ever called)
I call BS
He got himself elected
He did not win
Big difference
Yet here we are
But we all know Trump is an imbecile who lies and can't speak English properly. Why would he boast about cheating? More likely he was trying to say "Musk stopped the other side cheating". A standard lie.
Donnie has rights but the rest of us do not against a king thanks to the Supreme Court.
Trump saying he doesn't need the votes!
Elon's son X saying "We just quietly do whatever we want"and "They will never know" about the election.
Ken Paxton saying that Elon is responsible for stealing the battle ground states with his rocket science.
I can go on and on
Full source and context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oiVAF_BIho&ab_channel=TimesOfIndia
That took you longer to type then this did to find....
My take is that not technology, but gerrymandering and disenfranchement of voters did play a part (but not necessarily a big enough part).
https://www.watchvigilantesinc.com
Would love to use *literally the same* talking points the republicans used for the last four years and see what they say when it’s used on them
If you want to deal in conspiracies, go ahead.
How could there be so many people at her rallies and so few at Trumps and Trump wins?
Makes no sense.
Don't believe - fine. But don't blindly say no problem - please.
Do your research - millions of voters were disenfranchised in minority communities within battleground states.
I know this is true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UPYR6xjAFY
I was literally shocked when I found out he won. It was a bad day. 🤣🥺