Canadas response to the attacks on Iran have made it clear. There is no red line. There’s no limit to the excuses they’ll make for American imperialism
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Not saying we are the good guys, but also, it's absolutely not as simple as good vs evil, when talking about the humans in the mix.
Atrocities have been committed in each hemisphere, axially or laterally, over thousands of years.
Capitalism has caused a lot of them, recently.
"flay us" isn't a fix.
Two genocides doesn't fix the first genocide, is the point.
It is on us to stop the first one, and to repair the damage done. Saying "please kill us and maim us, now, so our descendants can do similar to you" accomplishes absolutely nothing. It just doesn't.
I think the only atrocities that are currently relevant are the ones that are currently happening, not the thousands of years ago ones. But that would really undermine your point if we can't count the ones from millenia ago I guess
Like, seriously, your argument justifies the past 20 years of war in the region, with a "they hit me, so I deserve to do anything I want to them". And nope, can't look back farther than the immediate event, so of course it's justified...
No idea what youre talking about anymore. I'm just agreeing with the person who said "western hegemony is the axis of evil" and i really don't think that statement supports Bush in any way. I suggest you work on your reading and writing skills my man.
Because the US “shot first”, technically article 5 of the NATO treaty is no longer applicable. However, should this “3 day special military intervention” drag on I have no doubt the Blight House will demand NATO support.
You know just as well as me what our foreign controlled media does to ANY politician who strongly criticizes hardliner neo cons in both Israel or the U.S.
I just woke up about an hour ago, and im getting all the Iran talk in. I hagent heard much from canada yet, ither than Mark saying negotiations should start.
Ive said this since the US dropped on iran: Canada better not get involved. This is the HOLY WAR - no winners, except the puppets on strings
I see what you are saying but consider that if Carney said nothing he would be accused of complicity. Lately there have been many examples of silence equalling complicity vis a vis the fascist take over of the U.S., as an example.
He said the wrong thing, sided with genocide and an aggressor. So, he IS complicit, and so are we if we let Canada get away with supporting either of those.
Chris Hedge describes the 2024 US election as one between two ruling class groups: oligarchs, who profit from chaos by privatizing services and erecting toll booths, and corporatists, who require predictable rules that favour them. Oligarchs won there, corporatists here, but both are for the 1%
Or factions within the 1%. The oligarchs like fucking up the rules and then forcing the corporatists to come begging for special exemptions or fragile favourable deals. Canadians were just so desperate for order over chaos that we chose the Red Tory ruling class faction over the insurgent blue ones
lol name a single country, religion, race or creed that doesn't hate women. The only consistency now and throughout history that brings everyone together on this planet is hate for women.
Because people famously choose progressive values when they're under siege?
This will push people deeper into extremism. From a leadership who was willing to negotiate, who stopped developing nuclear weapons, who was not an immanent threat...
Can you name a single instance where bombing the shit out of a country has caused progressive values to advance, rather than reverting to the safety of more intense conservatism?
Considering all the violence perpetrated against women and young buys by HNL hockey players and minor hockey officials I guess your cool with bombing hockey rinks (when women & gay leagues aren't playing of course.)
bombing women and putting Iranian women at the mercy of the notoriously sexually violent US military on top of all the shit they already put up with is great for women!
how could i, silly womanfolk, forget that war is good actually and totally doesn't result in sky high rates of gendered violence
like idk man i think "war crimes are bad and we shouldn't bomb Iran" and "iran's government sucks for women and gay people" are two ideas perfectly capable of coexisting, and do coexist in the mind of any remotely well-adjusted person.
as a woman. a queer one at that: stop using us to justify horrific war crimes. you very clearly do not value the lives or rights of Iranian women and queer people in Iran if you are in favour of bombing them.
Are the women-hating MAGAs with a demented, racist, convicted rapist and authoritarian wannabe leader in charge not in possession of the largest nuclear stockpile on earth?
My kingdom for people that will vote for a functional left wing party in this country. The NDP aren't even left and they're too left for Canadians. WTF is wrong with us?
Agreed, we can't even vote in a decent centrist party. North America has no idea what left even means anymore. Especially with Liberals, Democrats and even Libertarians calling themselves Left all while being hard core right wingers. Those who identify as right are essentially fundamentalists.
I honestly don't think they're too left at all, the Layton wave proved that, they're just terribly bad at communicating to the public about how their policies are good and help people. Like this past election cycle was brutal for that
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Western hegemony is the axis of evil.
If we won't force our government to do the right thing, we deserve whatever the global south wants to dish out.
Atrocities have been committed in each hemisphere, axially or laterally, over thousands of years.
Capitalism has caused a lot of them, recently.
"flay us" isn't a fix.
It is on us to stop the first one, and to repair the damage done. Saying "please kill us and maim us, now, so our descendants can do similar to you" accomplishes absolutely nothing. It just doesn't.
Saying we'd deserve what came at us is not saying what you said. It's saying retaliation toward the west would be justified.
Expansion and exploitation under capital leads to plenty of modern atrocities, and so does religious fundamentalism.
But saying "eye for an eye" is deeply stupid, and leads to losing more eyes.
Congrats, you supported Bush by your logic.
I’m not an Anti-Semite, I’m against religiously based Jewish nationalist fascism.
I’m not anti-Muslim, I’m against religiusly based Islamic nationalistic fascism.
The common denominator is obvious.
They seem to think this is a video game with a reset button when people lose their lives behind their stupidity.
Ive said this since the US dropped on iran: Canada better not get involved. This is the HOLY WAR - no winners, except the puppets on strings
We are not in the right here. This is very, very wrong.
Canada should have kept its mouth shut. Carney refused.
Le sigh.
Here's what Amnesty International has to say about it: https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/iran/report-iran/
So, can we invade your country? If we use your justification, we surely can.
That never changes.
This will push people deeper into extremism. From a leadership who was willing to negotiate, who stopped developing nuclear weapons, who was not an immanent threat...
To one that is.
Sorry, what's good about that?
I guess we could start with London Ontario first.
how could i, silly womanfolk, forget that war is good actually and totally doesn't result in sky high rates of gendered violence
as a woman. a queer one at that: stop using us to justify horrific war crimes. you very clearly do not value the lives or rights of Iranian women and queer people in Iran if you are in favour of bombing them.
*israel proceeds to massacre Palestinians, is biggest threat to gay life in gaza*
2025: Iran throws gay people off buildings how dare you critique Israel