You can't be lazy and get a red team or blue team role anymore. I'm not being a LinkedIn asshole, and I definitely don't think people should have to have degrees or experience. I'm just telling it like it is. You can't skate into cybersecurity anymore. Don't imply that to your kids or mentees. - ThreadSky

hacks4pancakes.com • 107 days ago

You can't be lazy and get a red team or blue team role anymore. I'm not being a LinkedIn asshole, and I definitely don't think people should have to have degrees or experience. I'm just telling it like it is. You can't skate into cybersecurity anymore. Don't imply that to your kids or mentees.

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n8s3c.bsky.social•107 days ago

Agree, saturated with young (experience-wise) folks and lack of demand has further put out entry to 'Cyber' opportunities. Also, specialized roles are still getting stretched into the 'Jack-of-all' space with more and more being required from both a knowledge/skill standpoint and experience.

hacks4pancakes.com•107 days ago

For us as seniors it makes mentoring and community development that much more vital. We need to be out there helping genuinely engaged newcomers, because it's incredibly scary out there for them right now.

wernherneumann.bsky.social•107 days ago

What do you think of the situation for late-ish career software devs who want to transition to cybersecurity. Bad idea?

hacks4pancakes.com•107 days ago

You had better be aiming for a more senior niche role like appsec or security engineering.

wernherneumann.bsky.social•107 days ago

How about cloud security combined w/ either of those?

hacks4pancakes.com•107 days ago

Cloud security with a full bastion of certs and administration / SWE experience is a good bet.

hacks4pancakes.com•107 days ago

I’m sorry, “lazy” was harsh. I’m not using that liberally, it was more parents pushing kids who didn’t want to work into cyber into it because it was a “good job” and letting them do the bare minimum.

hacks4pancakes.com•107 days ago

I yell because of despair, because I’m booked out for mentees and seeing so many very scared job hunters who got promised the moon by skeevy universities and boot camps. Cybersecurity is a great job but you have to be proactive!

hacks4pancakes.com•107 days ago

One final plea to senior folks to please mentor at least one young person in a structured, formal way. Please, don’t pull the ladder up behind us.

kageneko.bsky.social•107 days ago

where can I learn how to mentor in a structured way?
I've only done wildly unstructured so far.

redteamwrangler.bsky.social•107 days ago

I'm concerned that since it's been decades since I joined, and don't have a perspective on what it's like to be new or looking for work in this day. That my advice is for people only like me.

Do you have suggestions? Should I just be talking to these people and asking what their perspectives are?

infosecgoat.bsky.social•107 days ago

We desperately need them .. some of the MSSPs are providing resources that can follow a script but can’t process logically, so you have tickets closed without any thought to the potential to deviate from the script.

We must mentor, train and if possible onboard these young people!

cynthb.bsky.social•107 days ago

Agree 100% that we need them. However, it's also on us to make sure the mentee is worth the time investment. I'm saying this having had to shut down someone who dropped out of a CS degree in 1st year "too much work" and wanted cybersec mentoring as an "easy, fun ticket".

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