very, very, very bad sign. Being scornfully ignored is mark of pie already divided and now only thing for EU to do is fully commit to UA. - ThreadSky

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herrbpl.bsky.social • 108 days ago

very, very, very bad sign. Being scornfully ignored is mark of pie already divided and now only thing for EU to do is fully commit to UA.

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martparve.bsky.social•108 days ago

I doubt it's a sign of anything other than Europe just not considered useful for these discussions. Why have a bunch of crazy uncles present who can't agree on anything?

jubejuss.bsky.social•108 days ago

And more. Europe took its negotiating chance in 2014. Very badly. Perhaps what is happening now is indeed a wake-up call. Let's hope.

martparve.bsky.social•108 days ago

Also, there are 3 possible statuses: inviter, invited and not invited. Long ways to go from not invited to inviter. The only way it could happen is the United States of Europe. Which is something the crazy uncles and the spoiled-brat EU citizens will never achieve.

martparve.bsky.social•108 days ago

There are a few countries where there's still some "sisu" in the population. These are UK (hard core war daddies since forever), Poland, Finland (never mess with a Finn), Sweden and Estonia.

herrbpl.bsky.social•108 days ago

end result is the same, no? Loss of sovereignty over own territory

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