The thing about "the salute is just a troll!" is that the people doing the troll salute are also calling American Jews the enemy within forward.com/opinion/6993... - ThreadSky

emilyctamkin.bsky.social • 4 hours ago

The thing about "the salute is just a troll!" is that the people doing the troll salute are also calling American Jews the enemy within
https://forward.com/opinion/699337/steve-bannon-israel-antisemitic/

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adrianshort.org•3 hours ago

Perhaps we should fight ironic and unironic Nazis just the same.

thegreatgonzo.uk•3 hours ago

A lot of white ppl are pro Israel for the worst reasons. But as with many other things the nuance is very much lost in mainstream reporting.

matchatea420.bsky.social•3 hours ago

the problem is there isn't really a "good reason" to support a right-wing ethnonationalist country

thegreatgonzo.uk•3 hours ago

There are no reasons to support this Israel. There are reasons to support the concept of a country that Jewish people will always be safe in.

thefortunatesmith.bsky.social•3 hours ago

“… and the evangelical Christians and the traditional Catholics in this country have Israel’s back. They have the Jews’ back.” Yes, because they want them all in one place so they can be annihilated and Jesus will come back. Weird version of having-ones-back.

bbofun.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I'm reminded of the "OK/white power" hand sign that was "just a troll" but was used exclusively by white supremacists. It doesn't matter if it's trolling if you still actually mean it.

rabinpw.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The Circle Game.

winedad.bsky.social•3 hours ago

That one seems more ambiguous... guessing most people have no idea it could be taken that way. If memory serves, some dude was mistakingly fired over this during covid.

bbofun.bsky.social•3 hours ago

What do you think people thought it meant? It was a deliberate choice. Your hand doesn't just make that sign. Was there another mean9ng to it?

winedad.bsky.social•2 hours ago

It's just meant "ok" my whole life... type ok in the emojis on your phone and it'll popup.

bbofun.bsky.social•2 hours ago

If you want to do an OK sign, you hold it up. If you put it down by your waist, it's obviously not meant to be OK. Okay?👌

winedad.bsky.social•2 hours ago

I see, yeah I've probably never done that as it doesn't really make sense.

voceofreason.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I'm not sure if jews don't realise that zionist rightwing christians are anti-semitic or if they just don't care.

lamentablyawake.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Even looking past how much of modern far right discourse is just using trolling as the thinnest cover for what they actually want to do the Nazis *loved* euphemisms.

Taking over all of German society? "Coordination".

Murdering their rivals? They "disappeared into the night and fog".

etc etc.

klickedy.bsky.social•3 hours ago

A winking Nazi is just a Nazi with one eye closed.

niais.bsky.social•3 hours ago

They are Nazis who have been saying and doing Nazi things. The salute is just the icing, and it is laughable that people are arguing otherwise.

patocka.bsky.social•3 hours ago

“The unindoctrinated should not be able to tell if we are joking or not,”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/01/15/inside-the-daily-stormers-style-guide

psvail.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Punch a nazi!

emilyctamkin.bsky.social•4 hours ago

You want to align yourself with that for whatever reason, that's your choice, but that's what you're aligning yourself with. Lie to yourself, not to the rest of us.

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