Something I’ve come to enjoy about this discussion is the tendency to suggest that nobody has standing to comment on covid origins except a relatively small, tight group of virologists, who happen to have massive moral hazard associated with the answer to the question. - ThreadSky

dfisman.bsky.social • 399 days ago

Something I’ve come to enjoy about this discussion is the tendency to suggest that nobody has standing to comment on covid origins except a relatively small, tight group of virologists, who happen to have massive moral hazard associated with the answer to the question.

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cd8.bsky.social•399 days ago

Guessing it was this post you quoted before Eddie blocked you?

grace2002.bsky.social•61 days ago

I guess that took place after the early days when Eddie Holmes was "80% convinced" SARS-CoV-2 was engineered.
https://bsky.app/profile/grace2002.bsky.social/post/3lejeeoibxs2s

dfisman.bsky.social•399 days ago

Maybe that explains all the ad hominem attacks and Cartman-like appeals to authority

twistianandersen.bsky.social•399 days ago

I can't see who you're quoting due to being blocked. It's a familiar pattern, not surprising. This group pre-emptively blocks, even with no prior interactions. I suspect who it might be, as shown in my meme, but if not her, it's certainly someone from her group

dfisman.bsky.social•399 days ago

I appreciate that it might be more than awkward if it emerged that your colleagues and collaborators were involved in in an oopsy that killed 10’s of millions of peoples, and it’s probably not reasonable to ask you for a dry-eyed assessment of pandemic origins

dfisman.bsky.social•399 days ago

In my view, given the implications of a lab origin of the pandemic for funding, regulations and moratoria on GoF and creation of ePPP, it seems to me that the community from which one could LEAST expect a dry-eyed assessment would be the virology community…

dfisman.bsky.social•399 days ago

…which has the most to lose if this came from a lab, and the most to gain if this is another instance of a zoonotic pathogen that mysteriously leapt the species barrier (which means we need to ramp up our pathogen collection and GoF to figure out how these viruses become pandemic threats)

dfisman.bsky.social•399 days ago

I have no doubt that in their eyes I don’t have standing to comment either. I’m not a virologist. I’m just an epidemiologist. But I’ll tell you: the official timeline on this pandemic never made sense. We were modeling epidemic growth in February 2020, and it was clear that given the R…

rational-discourse.bsky.social•89 days ago

Epidemiologists have more standing than virologists.
The question of where a virus came from is seperate from a more typical virology question like: how does the virus enter the host cell.

dfisman.bsky.social•399 days ago

and generation time this had to have started in October or November 2020. It couldn’t have started at the market.

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