hunter biden probably deserved a pardon, but it still irritates me in a sense. joe biden and establishment democrats badly misunderstood the republican party, and we're stuck living in the world they left us while they head for the escape pods
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Biden didn't fix laws because of norms. And now he's breaking norms not to save democracy but his own kid. Biden could have fought to fix the law that applied to his family and to everyone else, but he didn't even try. Instead straight to the pardon power
Absofuckinglutely. It’s as if both parties now openly acknowledge that the Justice system they built is fucked up, not repairable, and to be applied politically from now on.
I am not “hallelujahing” this moment at all… unless thousands of other sons and daughters are getting pardons soon.
It’s us who voted. The American people. Well, the ones that voted for the orange. It’s not Hillary’s or Joe’s or Kamala’s fault. We have something broken
Oh it's their fault, and Chuck, Nancy, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz most of all. If they fought Republicans half as hard as they fought progressives we'd probably have universal healthcare by now and be working on other amazing things.
He doesn't deserve a pardon more than everyone in jail for lesser stuff who didn't get a pardon.
And it shows that when push comes to shove, dems don't care about etiquette or optics or protocol. But they do not wanna mae good things happen
My thing is like "don't blame him for doing this, do blame him for the many many things he could do instead and feel angry that this is the line for a lot of Dems who could excuse genocide" I hate it
I couldn't give two shits. I'm hopeful that this will set a precedent for Democrats to stop giving a shit about "the rules." Let them lean hard into every unscrupulous ratfuck strategy that has been institutionally adopted by conservative america.
There was nothing more grating than Kamala’s concession speech where she said “It’s gonna be okay”. Yeah, okay for you. Not so okay for all the people who are about to get deported or can’t get an abortion (the second example supposedly part of her actual electoral base!)
They didn’t misunderstand the party. They misunderstood how many of that party would just go along and how many of us stayed home for…who the hell knows why.
I don’t know… MAGAts are st in ll so unhappy they might end up giving Joe the Saddam after the bunker treatment. A party built on tearing down the establishment can’t really handle being the establishment. Joe should consider retiring to Hawaii like Obama.
No, not really. Hillary and Kamala both ran two of the shittiest campaigns of all time and Biden got lucky with covid. Their abandoning of the working class base in an effort to court people who will never vote for them is a proven loser, but they jus can’t stop themselves.
Do you really not think Biden staying in the race for as long as he did was bad for Dems? The lack of a primary is bad optics if nothihg else (like, undemocratic). He also had 4 years to be a transition candidate and help build a resume for the next Dem face of the party
He had one job, and he failed to accomplish it. That may be because it's an unfair system, or because Trump has powerful buddies, or because Americans are, statistically speaking, drooling racist morons. But none of those explanations changes his failure at job one.
I’d argue that he had two jobs, the policy one and the political one. I think in time, we’ll all appreciate the decent job he did with policy, especially with the hand he was dealt. Politically? Yeah, he failed miserably.
joe biden has far more respect for donald trump and the leadership of the Republican Party than he does for regular people who don't have the ability to ask their friends/family for a Federal Pardon
Look at all his previous presidential campaigns where he got laughed out. You couldn't have had Biden without Trump, and you couldn't have had a second Trump term without Biden
If America had genuine presidential elections and not two companies in a state of financial capture, never woulda happened
yeah, in a vacuum, i do not actually give a shit about the guy getting pardoned. I don't care about what he did, it doesn't matter. but did they have to spend so long acting like they thought it was the slightest bit wrong to do so. like fuck offff
I am 10 years into being confused by how it's not an act. How are the Democrats *not* merely front-facing customer service/complaint department for the GOP? They are staggeringly bad and dumb in a way that feels intentional.
How would it feel to be so overshadowed by a sibling that you subconsciously will your forehead and hair to stretch higher and taller in the hopes you’ll be noticed by someone
if he doesn’t also commute the death sentences of the 40 men on federal death row im gonna be pissed.
honestly, not even. the fact that pardoning his son was more urgent a matter to him than preventing the deaths of people in a system he campaigned on trying to abolish is disgusting.
I don't think they misunderstood the Republican party; that excuse died like, in 1994. Not figuring them out in the last 30 years is incompetence of such high degree as to be willful.
They were glad of it; they thought would keep them getting elected without effort on their part.
Yeah. Like, don’t care about Hunter particularly but it’s just so obvious that the highest priority for the folks who are supposed to be looking out for us all are first and foremost looking out for themselves. Biden could be doing all sorts of last minute gambits, but we just get this
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I am not “hallelujahing” this moment at all… unless thousands of other sons and daughters are getting pardons soon.
I hope he pardons a lot more. I’m more interested in him doing it now instead of in a clump on the way out the door
And it shows that when push comes to shove, dems don't care about etiquette or optics or protocol. But they do not wanna mae good things happen
and that's exactly the problem
If America had genuine presidential elections and not two companies in a state of financial capture, never woulda happened
honestly, not even. the fact that pardoning his son was more urgent a matter to him than preventing the deaths of people in a system he campaigned on trying to abolish is disgusting.
They were glad of it; they thought would keep them getting elected without effort on their part.
I get it, you don't want to instigate chaos. But you KNOW the chaos is coming regardless of what you do.
People want populism! Fuck being rational, give em what they ask for.