There are centrist Dems who dislike party leadership because they're venal careerists and the olds aren't letting go of their positions. There are progressive Dems who dislike party leadership substantively. Remarkable there hasn't been a convergence to sweep Schumer and the rest out by now. - ThreadSky

ositanwanevu.bsky.social • 17 hours ago

There are centrist Dems who dislike party leadership because they're venal careerists and the olds aren't letting go of their positions. There are progressive Dems who dislike party leadership substantively. Remarkable there hasn't been a convergence to sweep Schumer and the rest out by now.

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ceu---azul.bsky.social•8 hours ago

paul9876.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Centrist and right leaning Democrats don't want to give up the grift they've been getting from their sponsors.

hobogue.bsky.social•17 hours ago

converging
but of course, the party, like all sentient things, will protect its own survival
(eg, Nancy Pelosi)

suzai.bsky.social•16 hours ago

I swear, I will go in and do it. I’m Gen X. I don’t give a shit.

aiiswizardofoz.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Don’t forget AIPAC Dems which are the majority—all supporting genocide. They will never resist. https://www.trackaipac.com/shame

barbiedory.bsky.social•15 hours ago

People like myself didn’t go the distance past voting in the past. This time is different. We’re under siege by Ku Klux Klown and his circus of monkeys while the Democratic leadership want decorum. FFS, do something! Vote no and no. It’s that simple signed We the People!

stogachess.bsky.social•17 hours ago

The Democracy in turmoil. Crazy times ahead.

robertpbaird.com•10 hours ago

I suspect the big hurdle is, “Ok but who’s next?” Both sides might share a dislike for Schumer but I suspect they dislike the other faction’s alternatives more.

timfitz.bsky.social•8 hours ago

Then the centrists need to get over it and accept the principled, high-integrity leadership that the left offers. Centrist liberals have to realize, by defining themselves relative to the edges of the overton window, they've forfeited all power to determine its boundaries, and must rely on the left.

timfitz.bsky.social•8 hours ago

A centrist "leader" promising to return things to balance has zero credibility when that "balance" has fallen off a fascist cliff. Only the left can pull us back on to the ledge.

theradiostar.bsky.social•17 hours ago

historically, the centrists hate the progressives far more than the leadership

islandofreil.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Yup. Because the leadership isn't a threat to their gravy train.

eheart.bsky.social•17 hours ago

I don’t know any “centrist” Democrats. All of those I did know went MAGA.

cfaller96.bsky.social•17 hours ago

::sigh::

Two days and several maneuvers ago, and yet I’m still right. I hate this timeline.

seraphim1.bsky.social•13 hours ago

You would have made a better point leaving out the ageist crap

73k.us•10 hours ago

I feel like the problem is that traditionally the centrists generally trust authority and therefore trust party leadership. They trust careerists, I don't think that's been a problem for them.

jginsburg.bsky.social•5 hours ago

The current party leadership has spent decades attacking anybody who might have ideas about changing course, getting republicans to win their districts, securing their power at the cost of a future

tr0yster.bsky.social•9 hours ago

Centrists hate progressives more than conservatives for some reason so here we are.

catpushmike.bsky.social•17 hours ago

The real dividing line might be between those who are so beholden to beltway tradition and culture they’ve lost their way, and those who dgaf about that, whether they’re moderates, progressives or fighting lefties.

The latter side needs to come together as a coalition and plot the party’s future.

mattferrel.bsky.social•16 hours ago

Fighting > Ideology

discoafterlife.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Schumer is universally despised, I'd say

ryangermann.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It'll come, sooner than later hopefully, young voters will primary the legacy types and hopefully new blood will lead.

More idealists not trying to get rich off the system are needed.

drgrat.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Methinks the convergence has arrived.

marknyes.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Because they don't have the numbers. Centrists are a dozen or so, progressives are half that. The rest is all center-right, mainstream GOP trailing Democrat.

ccsooner.bsky.social•17 hours ago

That would be contrary to decorum and we would never.

cockymf.bsky.social•17 hours ago

That's cause most of the progressives also have issues with the Black base of the party and can't get along with others enough to form a coalition.

dillgarlicsalmon.bsky.social•16 hours ago

That's a complete load of nonsense ll the way through.

ositanwanevu.bsky.social•17 hours ago

To be fair, there's been a belated generational transition these last couple years in the House. Not an ideological one though, naturally.

freediverx.bsky.social•9 hours ago

I'll take an aging progressive over a young centrist/moderate/neoliberal any day. Focus on policy, not ageism.

y2skot.bsky.social•17 hours ago

AOC can help salvage the now-stale Democratic Party's future. She's a forward-looking strategic and tactical thinker with a robust moral compass that points true north. Empathetic. Passionate about the common good that can come from politics and governance. Believes in civil discourse and community.

taojonesing.bsky.social•17 hours ago

Bill Clinton was the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party. He taught his successors to "triangulate," that saying the right thing matters more than believing in anything. Pelosi and Schumer are the ending of the end of the Democratic Party because they held on to power too long. Bastards

viycoffin.bsky.social•17 hours ago

we 👏 demand 👏 younger 👏 cold 👏 war 👏 liberals 👏

atherton.bsky.social•17 hours ago

heard it reasonably argued that Hakeem Jeffries is largely in position as a holding action for the gerontocracy, the old guard's ideal next generational handoff.