"Are we really comfortable with a situation where a party – even an extreme party – can win a...majority with just three out of 10 votes? Because if things continue, that’s where we’re heading.” @alexsobel.co.uk is bang on. Ludicrous to suggest first past the post will protect us from extremism. - ThreadSky

zackpolanski.bsky.social • 100 days ago

"Are we really comfortable with a situation where a party – even an extreme party – can win a...majority with just three out of 10 votes? Because if things continue, that’s where we’re heading.”

@alexsobel.co.uk is bang on. Ludicrous to suggest first past the post will protect us from extremism.

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propvoting.bsky.social•100 days ago

By way of support, we're now publishing proportional division recounts here on bsky, Zack 🙂

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andrewgowen.bsky.social•100 days ago

True. History shows that extremist regimes get in by the last election; more rarely by outright revolution.

nicholasdangus.bsky.social•95 days ago

With the votes of 20% of the electorate.

tr1shw.bsky.social•100 days ago

No we are not - people can help to get electoral reform debated in parliament if they sign this petition https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700109

julie1176.bsky.social•100 days ago

I hear so many people saying that we shouldn't have PR because Reform will get more seats, which is true. But how long before Farage pulls off what Starmer did? At least with PR they'll never get a majority unless people vote for it.

twinklebutt.bsky.social•95 days ago

So under a PR system when one major party gets 40% of the vote and the other major party gets 40% of the vote and they both start sucking up to the extremists with 11% of the vote, what happens to democracy then?

twinklebutt.bsky.social•97 days ago

I'm far more comfortable with FPTP keeping extremist parties artificially suppressed than I am with PR giving them quite unjustified influence in the resultant coalition.

zackpolanski.bsky.social•97 days ago

It's not unjustified influence. It's literally proportional.

And it doesn't keep them artificially repressed. We've just been through a period where it was regularly giving them the keys to no 10 and leaves a supposed Labour leader engaging in anti migrant rhetoric to keep awful coalition together.

twinklebutt.bsky.social•97 days ago

Here's the 2024 UK election if PR was applied.

Who is going to be making decisions about what laws get passed?

It certainly won't be Labour or the Tories, they don't have enough seats. It'll be the minor parties - Reform nutjobs, LibDems or Greens all acting as vote whores.

PR is undemocratic.

twinklebutt.bsky.social•97 days ago

When there is a coalition of parties, which is the almost inevitable consequence of a PR system, minority parties *always* hold more power than their voter base justifies because they control the decision-making process. Always.

PR, in practice, is fundamentally undemocratic.

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