Judith Butler is a queer theorist not a feminist philosopher. Feminism analyses the power relations between the sexes. Butler obscures them. JB refers to 'trans people' but means 'males'. See comments on sport. english.elpais.com/culture/2024... - ThreadSky

womensportfeminism.bsky.social • 87 days ago

Judith Butler is a queer theorist not a feminist philosopher.
Feminism analyses the power relations between the sexes. Butler obscures them. JB refers to 'trans people' but means 'males'.
See comments on sport.
https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-12-15/judith-butler-philosopher-if-you-sacrifice-a-minority-like-trans-people-you-are-operating-within-a-fascist-logic.html?outputType=amp

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verity-adevrescu.bsky.social•87 days ago

I would add that Butler obscures anything because of her deliberately (or resulted from sheer stupidity) incomprehensible style. If you asked her what the time was, she'd manage to "queer" the answer into complete obscurity.

citternist.bsky.social•87 days ago

Thanks for the link, was wondering about her (their!) current stances (& didn’t know about her french phil influences — people I also admire)

“you can’t have a politics of identity that is only about identity. If you do that, you draw sectarian lines, and you abandoned our interdependent ties”

womensportfeminism.bsky.social•87 days ago

Q. It wasn’t just Trumpism. Some Democratic voices say it’s time to move beyond the issue of trans rights in areas like sports, which affect very few people.
JB: ' ... Once you decide that a single vulnerable minority can be sacrificed, you’re operating within a fascist logic'.

womensportfeminism.bsky.social•87 days ago

The only issue in sport is the asymmetric inclusion of males with trans identities in female sport. The majority of female athletes & the majority of the public do not support this.
They are ofc not fascists or 'operating within a fascist logic'.

womensportfeminism.bsky.social•87 days ago

If those who identify as progressive call those who understand humans are sexually dimorphic, sex is immutable & women's rights depend on recognition of their sex & analysis of power relations btwn the sexes, fascists, they've lost the plot. Useful idiots. Propping up identitarian hyper-capitalism.

parsnip.bsky.social•87 days ago

you are a pathetic, capitulating clown. a limp, vichy feminism

womensportfeminism.bsky.social•87 days ago

Hahaha. Vichy feminism is the very definition of pretending some males are females because they perform (some) oppressive sexist feminine stereotypes. Generally not the bits about not taking up any political or socio-cultural space. It's nonsense.

parsnip.bsky.social•87 days ago

all i hear are fart noises

citternist.bsky.social•87 days ago

I don’t think Butler is calling those of us who want women’s sports for women fascist. I think she’s saying we need dialogue and “intersectionality”. Maybe we should work more on men being accepting of feminine dressing men in their spaces! That’d go far as a solution, seems to me?

womensportfeminism.bsky.social•87 days ago

I think she is. I don't think JB is interested in dialogue. Intersectionality means intersectionalities of sex, race & class. Intersectionality does not mean including males in female spaces & sports. Agree it's a male problem though! Men need to address their sexism homophobia & transphobia.

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