If Trump follows through with his Greenland, Denmark, Gaza, Mexico or Iran warmongering and imperialism every US soldier should resign in protest. “Just following orders” doesn’t cut it.
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In order to be duped into joining the us military to be sent to invade other countries to steal resources by slaughtering human beings all over the world
you have to be maga stupid or maga hateful
good luck finding somebody with a conscience in that group
That's not necessarily the case. Lots of recruits are very young and may not know better at the time. A lot of them will probably realize that the price they're paying is not worth the promised benefits.
I’m sure they’ll see a large swath of resignations of officers who they’ll replace with uneducated 19 year old enlisted soldiers who desperately want love and validation. Seems to be the MO for this administration.
They won't. You would be surprised how many of them are already prepared and willing to shoot people in the us. Imagine outside the border or overseas.
I suspect that the U.S. military leans way more MAGA than the general population. The Harris campaign seemed blindsided when no one who served with Tim Walz was willing to endorse him... in fact, his former military comrades campaigned against him despite his honorable record.
"GOVX polled nearly 20,000 members with military, first responder, and government service backgrounds on the upcoming election, and Trump has almost 70% of the vote."
I cannot speak to the methods of this poll or how realible it is but I would assume it didn't change much after biden dropped out. If anything, it probably moved more to trump.
Got the numbers wrong. According to that Responsible Statecraft poll, 65% of vets voted Trump, while 34% voted Harris. These results are in line with previous elections. Active duty probably didn't deviate too much from these numbers.
It's just anecdotal evidence, but I have known a few people who are in the military or were first responders. Those worlds seem to be full of right wing propaganda and a cultish approach to work and 'duty'. This is not surprising to me.
Seems in line with my research. I have read polls and subreddits, and the overall political keaning of the armed forces seems to be on the right socially, but with a hint of "the government sucks".
There are cult-like aspects in a military context that ensure obedience. My posts are almost all info about such stuff, so I think the traits of cults will be my next project. And yeah, that doesn't cut it.
They should but they won't. They'll go and die and lose limbs for buzzwords like they did in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and many more countries and the survivors will cry in documentaries with pitiful music playing in the background.
They won't, though. This country has been training to accept fascism for years. Individualism, ruthless capitalism, and the lie of American exceptionalism all led us to this moment.
Military members can't just resign. There's also a misunderstanding about the poverty draft and the economic violence threatened on members and their families for leaving the military. They face prison time for going AWOL.
Terminally online leftist groyper private college weirdos litter the replies. You'd think they'd have a little more appreciation for victims of the poverty draft that may end up being the same people saving their asses in a civil war
The worst is that there will be no "Nuremberg Trials" for this fetid swamp of fascists: they'll continue to lie and cheat and steal and do racism until they die without every even THINKING of passing their obscene wealth to charity.
google supported the change in name for the gulf of mexico. it gave them the bravado to do this rediculous mess. are they begging for nuclear war, cause thats where this is heading. i'm in the EU and Greenland is protected by NATO. We would not back down.
I can't even imagine how stressful and awful this is for Americans. Fox 'news' has a lot to answer for when they meet their maker...and that's not Trump!
I actually went nuts the other night. I just lost it throwing things screaming at the top of my lungs after I learned they were bringing back the DOGE kid after he posted all those abhorrent racist things. They brought him back...I just can't. He said he was racist before it was cool and much more
Speaking as a military veteran, it doesn't work quite like that. You'll be charged with desertion and that could have very serious consequences. Banking on EVERY fellow service member supporting this is a pipe dream. You need to pressure lawmakers so soldiers don't have to it. We follow orders.
Even Sane Liberals do agree to protest on this, but Centrists & Moderates are not so easy to please unfortunately, and ot just makes it more complicated in every way.
yeah, cool if they fight Canada I guess is implication? Hopefully just the typical thing where we Canadians are forgotten is at play. I agree with the sentiment anyway-they should step down and if it were me I'd do it now. But they should for Canada as well-certainly. And this all better not happen.
I'm secretly hoping that the Traitor Tot's Alzheimer's dials up a notch and he just forgets that we're even here. Even their Dem's though have me worried as they all seem eager to have us join the US to tilt the scales blue. Like we'd ever be given a vote if conquered.
Actually think too that for all they have values more aligned with us, most democrats have no REAL clue about our country and how distinctly different we are. This feeds notion that it would be no big deal and would help them-this is what keeps me up at night. Ok quite a few things do these days!
Yes-feel same way. PLEASE forget about us! unfortunately our resources including water make it unlikely. Imagined Americans relocating to Canada due to climate, but didn't quite imagine this. & YES Dems aren't saying enough and it feels CREEPY. I get they're flooded with issues but still. Speak out!
Most military personnel are on contracts and cannot quit. If they refuse to participate, consequences include jail time, a criminal record, and loss of VA benefits.
You can still say that they should, just be aware what you're asking/demanding of them.
I am sure that every soldier who resigned in protest against the orders they received—such as killing the Palestinian people, including women, children, and men; forcing us into displacement and forced eviction; starving us, and more—did the right thing.
He’s threatening to annex Canada. And we are not taking it well. In private conversations people are taking about having to go to war with the United States.
IDK about the military (and I don't trust them anyway) but the country would be in full out revolt if Trump invades Canada. The economy would grind to a complete stop and the federal government wouldn't be able to fuction with the scale of protests.
People from any positions of power LOVE the Traitor Tot. Doubt the military are any different.
Let's not forget many of the Oath keepers and other Trump thugs are ex-military. There might be some dissent, but part the MAGA mind virus is absolute devotion to the Dear Leader
When russia invaded Ukraine, did Russian soldiers resign? I don't think people actually understand what's going on. Trump is copying Putin's playbook, wanting to invade countries, and talks of a 3rd time. Complacency and denial , it's the frog slowly boiling in the pot metaphor (1/4)
The issue is you all thing Trump is going to abide by the law, why would here ? He has faced no consequences. The SC is backing him. Everyone focused on Jan 6 but missed the biggest crime of sending 84 fake electors to swing states to overturn the results. Now he expected to win in 2020. (2/3)
If he is willing to do that in a panic to hold power. What do you think he is doing, firing government workers and replacing them with loyalists. The problem is that this era of Americans has never faced this before. Never had to fight for anything at this level. (3/4)
Look at the history of other countries who have fallen into a dictatorship. Waiting for these plans, waiting to 2026 and / or 2028 will be too late. The end of democracy is happening. It happened because 32 % of Americans didn't vote because of complacency and apathy. (4/4)
Nah, our country is full of cultish propaganda that dehumanizes anyone that the military goes up against, and we treat soldiers like they are sacred heroes that can do no wrong. They won't do what is right.
They don't even check if the person they are bombing with drones is a civvy or not.
Trump is exceedingly popular with white men of all ages. That demographic makes up a good chunk of the armed forces.
However, yes, in a perfect world, that would be great.
Pull up a list of items that are imported from Canada and Mexico to us- and a list of exports of ours they’ll block, too, if a trade conflict gets going. Just like with our farmers here who grew stuff for USAID to export that’s now rotting because the staff’s all suddenly “on leave”, this hurts us
I think you might have misunderstood my post. I was saying that Trump is threatening to invade Canada, too, and I said that no one in America talks about wanting to annex Canada in a sarcastic manner.
Yes, we need Canada as a trade partner. No, Americans do not talk about a desire to annex Canada, nor did anyone vote for that. Kyle's post was about invading countries, not about trade.
I saw a Facebook comment....on a totally unrelated post a phone number for soldiers to call if they feel like they are being ordered to act in a way that compromises the constitution.
Never underestimate those who have been sent to fight an unjust war and returned. Vietnam Vets Against the War ♥️ How many subsequent vets are homeless, without mental health care and VA services, abandoned by the gov't they served?
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Billionaire welfare cry baby bros, seriously, where’s the pause button Dems?!
you have to be maga stupid or maga hateful
good luck finding somebody with a conscience in that group
I guess this is after we ethnically cleanse Gaza of the Palestinians.
Heaven this way.
The sob will rot in purgatory.
Even nazis were just following commands.
But we need to be prepared that we have Nazis in our military, too. Look at ICE. They have no problems cuffing pregnant women and children.
You can still say that they should, just be aware what you're asking/demanding of them.
The phrase "I was just following orders" is truly not an acceptable justification for me as a Palestinian either.
Let's not forget many of the Oath keepers and other Trump thugs are ex-military. There might be some dissent, but part the MAGA mind virus is absolute devotion to the Dear Leader
They don't even check if the person they are bombing with drones is a civvy or not.
However, yes, in a perfect world, that would be great.