For instance, Lib Dem Daisy Cooper asks about Clause 93b. It states that an assessing doctor "may" refer people to further psychiatric assessment if they have doubt about their mental capacity. She wants "may" turned to "must" & for training requirements to be strengthened. - ThreadSky

iandunt.bsky.social • 95 days ago

For instance, Lib Dem Daisy Cooper asks about Clause 93b. It states that an assessing doctor "may" refer people to further psychiatric assessment if they have doubt about their mental capacity. She wants "may" turned to "must" & for training requirements to be strengthened.

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iandunt.bsky.social•95 days ago

Leadbeater says she is willing to work with her on that. What you're seeing here is how legislation should be debated in a legislature - practical concerns alleviated, changes made to reflect anxieties, leading to improved law. We very rarely see it in Westminster.

ethelcrimble.bsky.social•95 days ago

Not nowadays. Even in the 2000's, we did though.

colindurrington.bsky.social•95 days ago

At tge very basic level it's not, repeat not about helping people to die, it's about a personal choice to live or die. I object to the assumption that I should not have a choice, that the state should prevent my choice. In short does the government own you or do your really have freedom of choice?

farmerukr.bsky.social•95 days ago

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/nov/24/tory-mp-danny-kruger-investigated-by-standards-watchdog-over-assisted-dying-funds
Dodgy Danny

iandunt.bsky.social•95 days ago

Leadbeater says that if the bill goes through, the bill committee will be able to take witness testimony, with representatives of all sides of the debate on the committee. This refers to the stage of the bill with line by line scrutiny, usually conducted in a smaller room by a selected group of MPs.

hannahbeatrice.bsky.social•94 days ago

@iandunt.bsky.social how thorough will the line by line scrutiny of this bill be? I read in your book 'How Westminster Works'* that this stage is not usually the thorough scrutiny it is supposed to be. Will this work differently given this is a PMB? (*which I very much enjoyed by the way!)

iandunt.bsky.social•94 days ago

Tbh should be the opposite of what's in the book - no whip, no majority, all the ingredients for genuine scrutiny

hannahbeatrice.bsky.social•94 days ago

Thanks, that's good to hear. If only some of the other extremely important issues were also dealt with this way...

iandunt.bsky.social•95 days ago

Leadbeater: "A vote to take this bill forward today is not a vote to implement the law tomorrow. It is a vote to continue the debate, to subject the bill to line by line scrutiny in bill committee, at report stage, and further reading, and then of course the bill will go to the Lords."

ruislipr.bsky.social•95 days ago

I think this is what is being greatly misunderstood, especially with some of the media coverage. There's a lot of water to pass under the bridge, possible amendments etc, before this comes into law, even if MPs do approve the bill today.

iandunt.bsky.social•95 days ago

"But the debate can only continue if colleagues join me in the aye lobby today and I wholeheartedly encourage them to do so." And with that, Leadbeater is done.

feelingantsy.bsky.social•95 days ago

The lobby system really needs to be retired

iandunt.bsky.social•95 days ago

There's a lot to complain about here. A private members bill was completely the wrong way to go and the fact it was only published after months of debate is kinda unforgivable. But Leadbeater has been an excellent advocate for this: Decent, kind, empathetic, logical. That was a very good speech.

drjaimeashworth.bsky.social•95 days ago

The debate (and to an extent the bill, especially the delay) have let the issue down.

drsimonwyatt.bsky.social•95 days ago

No Government would ever touch this issue. A PMB is the *only* way to go.

oatc.bsky.social•95 days ago

All such advances in UK have had to be kicked off by eith court judgments or private members bills. Yours is not at all a valid complaint.

iandunt.bsky.social•95 days ago

Danny Kruger, Tory, stands up to argue against the bill. "I like and admire her greatly and I know that we have more in common than might appear today." This is a reference - which I dunno, maybe I'm getting old, I found very poignant - to Leadbeater's sister Jo Cox.

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