The irony of it is lost on those people. For years people railed about dangerous strangers outside the house grooming the kids, and now they’re literally in kids’ bedrooms and the enablers aren’t being held to account.
But if they are upstairs in their bedroom they are out of their parents faces who can now get pissed on the sofa!!
Same as tvs in kids bedrooms.
The 4 year old can watch alien or childs play!!
Love from a teacher who has reported all the above on child protection forms!
My teens weren’t allowed to bring their phones upstairs (to their rooms). Whatever they wanted to do on them, they had to be in a shared space. And they had to charge them downstairs. Not easy but consistent behaviour helps kids.
Also, my phone is also downstairs overnight.
But it's a good indication of why the idea of banning things is always so popular: it pretends there are simple answers to complex problems. It means you don't really have to think.
But Ian you have just described Nigel Farage, Reform, Kemi Badenoch and other right wingers' policy making, and how easy it is to manipulate people into supporting them, when in fact they are the ones who should be explaining the nuances and how nothing is that simplistic.
I think if you ask most teachers, they would prefer not to have mobiles in school. Not least because kids are there trying to watch TikTok when they’re supposed to be learning.
I’m a retired teacher so mobiles weren’t as prevalent when I was teaching, but I worked in a PRU for a while and phones were used to organise gang fights.It’s an extreme example, but we really don’t want phones in school. I could give you lots more examples of bullying in ordinary schools by mob.
Perhaps it’s the parents that need to get off the phones, and do some actual thinking, then we might not have as many knee-jerk ‘ban all the things’ reactions
I seem to be the only person in the country who hasn't watched it, but I'd go so far as saying banning phones in schools is only a very tiny part of the issue. Parents are trying to fight an unknown, unseen enemy, which isn't confined to phones/internet.
As a teacher myself, almost all incidents I deal with are things that have occurred on social media outside of school hours, that are brought into school.
If there was a message of the series
(I think it was a study rather than something with an agenda)it was that parents need to keep an eye out.
I’m a teacher, too, and I discuss the techniques used by manipulative influencers and disinformation communicated through social media. I spend a lot of time discussing the benefits of critical thinking and allowing them to undertake personal research to fact-check the claims of, for example, Tate.
Allowing 10-12 grades open and free discussions on incels was enlightening. Some students had never heard the term before and others were very well-informed. They exchanged information without my input. Some exchanges were impassioned but never aggressive. The feedback was that incels were despised.
Parents also need to report issues. A colleague's child was being sent inappropriate messages by another child. My advice was to go to the police. It may seem like overkill, but every time it is ignored, the problem grows. Only teaching children it is illegal will stop it from happening.
Agree.
My child uses their phone for bus fare, I use find my iPhone to see they are in school. All of their homework, timetables, links to BBC bite size etc are on school app!
Learning to use a phone wisely is a bit part of growing up.
A national ban would take the pressure off individual heads and teachers which would be a good thing in my opinion. Schools can't prevent pupils from carrying phones to and from school, so would have to have a secure way of checking them in and out.
You see, this is the problem, right here.
Mention that banning things rarely works, and some idiot will come back with an idiotic comment like this.
Hint for those lacking in critical thinking skills: Saying something is not allowed in certain premises or situations is not the same as banning it.
There is no difference, except that the former is rather more inflammatory language. But the point is that it's not a ban on phones, but a restriction on where they are appropriate to be used.
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Same as tvs in kids bedrooms.
The 4 year old can watch alien or childs play!!
Love from a teacher who has reported all the above on child protection forms!
Also, my phone is also downstairs overnight.
If there was a message of the series
(I think it was a study rather than something with an agenda)it was that parents need to keep an eye out.
https://bsky.app/profile/jamesh1977.bsky.social/post/3ljuk23btd224
I don't know anyone that feels well served by the police.
They knew he was there and where to find him because it was ultimately organised and executed via social media
Police were wonderful but it was the CPS who were lacking
Personally- I want my 12yr old to be able to have her phone with her, so she has it for walk to & from school. Safety
But absolutely support teachers punishing her if she broke the rules & used phone in school
My child uses their phone for bus fare, I use find my iPhone to see they are in school. All of their homework, timetables, links to BBC bite size etc are on school app!
Learning to use a phone wisely is a bit part of growing up.
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Mention that banning things rarely works, and some idiot will come back with an idiotic comment like this.
Hint for those lacking in critical thinking skills: Saying something is not allowed in certain premises or situations is not the same as banning it.