The startling thing about this is that 26% of Americans are *for* sending innocent people from other countries to hell prison in El Salvador for no reason other than they are in America and they don't like that - ThreadSky

jackhewson.com • 4 days ago

The startling thing about this is that 26% of Americans are *for* sending innocent people from other countries to hell prison in El Salvador for no reason other than they are in America and they don't like that

Reposted from Nathan Kalman-Lamb

Polling finds Americans are

- 51% to 32% AGAINST deporting international students who participated in pro-Palestine protest

- 61% to 26% AGAINST deporting immigrants without criminal convictions to El Salvador without due process

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asfried.bsky.social•4 days ago

I remember the birtherism polling. It was always around 27% of Americans who were birthers. These are the same (or at least the same sort of) people.

fiztig.bsky.social•4 days ago

Just over a quarter of the US population is terminally batshit crazy.

soren-lorenson.bsky.social•4 days ago

27% is the Alan Keyes Constant aka the Crazification Factor.

https://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/april-2011/the-alan-keyes-constant/

thelordgod.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yeah it's because that 26% are CERTAIN nothing bad could ever happen to them because they're TRUE Americans. And they'll be the first to be fucking crying when shit goes wrong for them and saying, "But this isn't what I voted for!"

Because they're human fucking garbage.

pi3832.bsky.social•4 days ago

> innocent people from other countries

innocent people from other NON-EUROPEAN countries
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Remember that despite the anti-Irish, anti-Italian sentiment in the US, it was the immigration of *Chinese* people that prompted congress to pass immigration quotas.

curleysound.com•4 days ago

They would support throwing babies into wood chippers, gas chambers are too timid for these psychopaths

matthewtriponey.bsky.social•4 days ago

"One in four Americans is irredeemably evil" is a tough thing to process, even though it's easy to believe at this point.

philippos42.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes, because you have radio & Facebook personalities who go way past Fox News in telling actual lies about who the Democrats even are and what's going on. It's not just xenophobia. It's an actual belief that to be "illegal" in the USA is to be part of a sex trafficking gang alongside Barry Obama.

no-ky.bsky.social•4 days ago

This German here was going to produce some remark on how long to hold a grudge against those fascist US of A and then rather quickly saw the poll results for the German anti-democratic parties and well here we are

exys.org•3 days ago

yeah glass houses etc.
time to clean up our own shit i guess.

daisyjingles.bsky.social•4 days ago

Whitewashing history and videos like the one from PragerU being used in schools will only increase that percentage. The far right is using the same tactics to indoctrinate children as the United Daughters of the Confederacy did during Jim Crow. Teach racism and you will have more racists.

dmiyasaki.bsky.social•4 days ago

How on earth is this startling? Many Americans and citizens of allied nations demonstrated that they were fine with this sort of thing during the War on Terror. It's absolutely consistent with the history of the global north, on both the short and long view.

quasihistorian.bsky.social•4 days ago

Liberal pundits are like human goldfish, they have to learn these things anew every 15 months or so

dmiyasaki.bsky.social•4 days ago

Btw I don’t say this to score cheap points, it’s important to realize fascism doesn’t come from the populace but the powerful who manipulate them. The Democratic party’s reliance on polling-politics and its use of demographics to excuse not fighting, much less preventing, fascism is how we got here.

complexifire.bsky.social•4 days ago

Crazification Factor is 27%, as a couple people in thread already mentioned
h/t @johnrogers.bsky.social , October 2005
https://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

everydog.bsky.social•4 days ago

That last point is important. Example: A noteworthy portion of rabid anti-trans accounts believe everyone who lists pronouns in their bio is trans

spacejamveteran.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes, I remember another term that was bought up during the 1st trump administration TFG (too far gone)

lurkermcgoo.bsky.social•4 days ago

Some crazification factor then was pro life stuff. A larger portion now is xenophobia. But the size of the group is consistent.

professorg.bsky.social•4 days ago

The “Crazifaction Factor” strikes again.

huddledmass.bsky.social•4 days ago

I’ve been saying for years that 26% of the population are irredeemable assholes! I based this on the percentage who still thought Nixon was a good president the day after he resigned, but this statistic confirms it!
I’m a genius.

yupperdoo.bsky.social•4 days ago

Also isn’t there that whole “26% of people have an authoritarian psychology” thing? That number has come up a few times tbh

caerdroia.bsky.social•4 days ago

Nixon is one of the worst presidents to pick here. By virtue of having no real politics he was one of the most liberal presidents in our history. Yeah He did some crimes, that doesn't matter. You will have to do a lot of crimes yourself if you don't want to die to this fascist regime.

rjnerddad.bsky.social•4 days ago

Um.. you ok, bro?

Nixon did a lot of really bad stuff.

caerdroia.bsky.social•4 days ago

He passed one of two civil rights acts. He signed the EPA. He normalized relations with China. The latter no liberal would have done.

Yes he did bad, but the same bad as the liberals. The genocide Nixon and LBJ supported completely eclipses Watergate and you are a scoundrel if you act otherwise.

proseandkahn.bsky.social•4 days ago

He and Kissinger illegally bombed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Cambodia/Laos, countries we weren’t at war with. His entire political career was built on inflaming red scare tensions in the US. Things like the EPA were broadly popular and passed through congress

caerdroia.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yes, and so did LBJ. You can condemn Nixon's war crimes but unless you are willing to condemn every single president, because every single president was a genocidal monster, it rings hollow.

Nixon did some good things. Compared to most presidents, who did only evil things, that is rare.

jones77.bsky.social•4 days ago

I thought it was famously a third after Trump's primary run in 2016? ie His floor was 35% or so and could only go up.

But whatever, it's no good, bad, terrible, etc.

countrymarxist.bsky.social•4 days ago

also been saying it for decades, but I used to think it was closer to 22%. Assholes are definitely on the rise though.

garbagearsonist.bsky.social•4 days ago

I think at this point that's going to be a pretty firm floor for any vile but imaginable proposal you can cook up. Between 25-30% would probably support nuclear war on N. Korea, or US military occupation of Gaza, or summary executions of DSA members on the grounds they're admitted Marxists, or...

martycrabneck.bsky.social•4 days ago

26% MAGA Nazis. Could be worse.

snake-lloyd-wright.bsky.social•4 days ago

About 20-25% of Americans are freedom-hating monarchists who want a king to rule over them. But another ~20% would reluctantly accept a king in order to own the libs, which is the only thing that really matters to any of them.

exys.org•3 days ago

* "for no reason."

seachanger.bsky.social•4 days ago

great news - 24% is far from a majority, we do not need them

asteroidnova.bsky.social•4 days ago

And 99% of Americans agree that homeless people should freeze outside. We're evil. We're coddled so we don't realize it. So I don't get what's startling by this.

aminhnow.bsky.social•4 days ago

I wish I was startled by this number but the last ten years has shown I shouldn't be surprised by anything that about 1/3 of the country believes and/or does. Hate radio, hate TV, and hate algorithms has indoctrinated a huge number of Americans.

wykstrad.bsky.social•4 days ago

And 13% are like, "Uh, is that bad or--?"

stephstephking.bsky.social•4 days ago

I grew up in a small town in a red district and... this does not surprise me at all

moxiecotton.bsky.social•4 days ago

Same I thought it would be higher to be honest 26% is awful but better than I expected.

harfenist.bsky.social•4 days ago

It is startling, but I can assure you, Jack, that people are really, really dumb and hateful here. Even in New York.

rfksbrainworm.bsky.social•4 days ago

"I just want them to come here legally" is that common argument from people trying not to show their racist cards, and it's so disingenuous. "Being treated like a human is contingent on filling out the proper paperwork" is not the way anyone actually thinks, especially in the bureaucracy hate club.

seymourbermudez.bsky.social•4 days ago

37% (!!!) support amongst Gen x. The fascist generation truly

jenpoll.bsky.social•4 days ago

I want the names of the 26%. Do unto others and all that. They should be sent to that prison just for thinking that

thmosqueiro.bsky.social•4 days ago

Maybe more than 26%, because in that question 13% were "unsure" 😭

starscape15.bsky.social•4 days ago

We've always been racist af.

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