Imagine how the people they lead in the military and intelligence feel today. Lead by liars who compromised their safety. And who refuse to take responsibility for their grievous mistake.
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"And who refuse to take responsibility for their grievous mistake."
This is what irks me the most. Firstly not accepting they have made a mistake almost makes a repeat inevitable, and secondly I'm sure they expect accountability of those they supervise
I have 2 sons serving.
They both know more about the law than anyone in that group.
They both also know they'd be in Leavenworth for being in that chat.
#WarCrimesPlan
total inability to learn.
ALSO; everyone below these ppl now know CLEARLY what's going to happen 'next time'. They will all become fall guys. No question. And that's supposed to encourage dedication? The worst approach to managing people. The WORST.
It’s proof positive that the Trump national security team has been using ‘signal ‘ often and routinely! They likely have risked our intel being collected by Russia and China !
gonna guess most of them don't give a shit as long as it's not a democratic party administration - you can suck up to them if you want, but for the most part that's the way it is (see also: local police forces).
My father was a world War II and Korean War veteran. A Lt. Colonel, Corsair fighter pilot in the Marines. He would have been 107 last week. I miss him dearly, but I'm so thankful he's no longer on this earth to see what has happened to the military and country he served so proudly.
A friend who retired from DoD contract work is absolutely horrified. He spent 12 yrs in the Army in counter-terrorism. All he can say is I'm glad General X or Y isn't alive to see this.
Ya know that was my thought too after reading more of the chat transcript. Imagine being a military personnel on that mission and reading this. Knowing it was completely unsecure. I wonder how much the military would back this administration now.
I don't care about how some rapists and murderers feel. Any person who volunteered to kill on behalf of (Trump's) America is a scumbag. They don't deserve a safe genocide. If Trump's admin accidently hurts or kills them that is fine. It is fine when evil people kill each other.
Look, the reason they are ALL using Signal is that it evades the record keeping and retention laws: they don’t want to create a paper trail of their blatant racism and reckless and potentially illegal actions.
Beginning to think that 47s potential plan to institute the Insurrection Act and declare martial law may not go over well amongst the troops. Disobeying an illegal order and all that stuff.
Aren't most of these military people Trump supporters? And, won't they rationalize their way around this mess? Won't they simply blame the messenger, Jeffrey Goldberg? It is more & more apparent to me that fierce trumpers chose to ignore all news that questions the omnipotence of the orange king.
Well, press sec sandpit was just a policy discussion, so, ya know, no big deal. Gawd i hate every last one of them. 77M selfish morons who don't give a flying f*ck about their country.
In 1961, JFK took full responsibility for the Bay of Pigs fiasco, though his administration didn’t plan it, a Republican one did, because it was the right thing to do…
Imagine being in the military 🪖 being asked to go on a mission, not knowing if the enemy had information on When,Where and How you were going to strike but also if you got injured, when you got home your pension would be taken away, and your commander in chief would call you a sucker. #SignalGate
With Hegseth’s long history of alcohol abuse/addiction, I don’t believe he stopped drinking. It’s not an easy thing to do. Most of Trump’s appointments have no clue about how to do their jobs and that’s a great danger to our safety and security. God help us all!
The military is full of cult Trumpists. They will take their lead from fox. Our country is unsafe. Our military is not going to evolve into what it should be, but rather be full of racist and election deniers.
If that were true, people like hegseth would be veterans…
And since we worship uniforms in the US, we would have to respect his service anyway. They’re heroes. Thats what I keep hearing.
Hegseth IS a veteran. Tulsi Gabbard is a veteran. Those milquetoast military guys at the hearing are active. My Navy veteran brother and all his friends are in the MAGA cult. Remember, they play FOX on every base in the world 24 hours a day.
My 26 year Navy veteran cousin drank the Kool-Aid. He thinks this is fine. He told me that Democrats lie. His grandfather fought in World War I,in France,crawling under the barbed wire. That was my great grandfather even though I'm older than him. Just makes me sick.
How do the pilots who accomplished this mission feel about the fact their “leaders” sent them in there with a heads up to the target first? I’d be out of my mind pissed.
I'm sure that would depend on the pilot. If they're MAGA, it'd be "No biggie, I'm tough, they never would've got me, and if they did I would deal with it like a real man. Maybe die a hero, even"
Whereas if they've got even an ounce of intelligence, it'd be
"WTAF you good-for-nothing 💩for🧠 morons!"
Can you please get a simple question to someone you know on the committee questioning them today - Was the Atlantic free to publish this group text last Saturday one hour before the attack?
I keep posting this because the Russian connection is undeniable, yes, but Putin doesn’t care about birth control and Christianity taught in American schools, the traitors are American
I just like to say something about Trump he never held office other than being president of the United States, he's been bankrupt six times over, harass and sexually assault women in January 6th was on call for and he's getting away with everything if he was a Democrat to be a different situation
So maybe now is a good time for the military to make a visit to the White House. Arrest the insurrectionist and his coup makers. Put them on trial. Call for a new and fair election in a few months.
Radcliffe thinks "someone's drinking habits" shouldn't be brought up at the hearing. That someone is the Secretary of Defense not secretary at an insurance company
These guys only care about covering their own asses. They have no honor. They're reckless. Who would want to put themselves in harms way for leaders like this?
These people are literally tye scum of the Earth. Bottom of the barrel, Mediocre losers with no sense of morality, Patriotism or humanity. They can all Fuck Off
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Follow orders, their commander
In chief is Trump….what a horror show
This is what irks me the most. Firstly not accepting they have made a mistake almost makes a repeat inevitable, and secondly I'm sure they expect accountability of those they supervise
They are incompetent morons
They both know more about the law than anyone in that group.
They both also know they'd be in Leavenworth for being in that chat.
#WarCrimesPlan
ALSO; everyone below these ppl now know CLEARLY what's going to happen 'next time'. They will all become fall guys. No question. And that's supposed to encourage dedication? The worst approach to managing people. The WORST.
Liars all.
I am not in their shoes, but I don't know how in good conscience they can obey any orders given by these people.
But we don’t know what to do with all this chaos
This should be the focus of questioning. Why are they using an unauthorized coms channel that both NSA and the Pentagon have issued warnings about?
We're all incredibly pissed off. And while I am one of the more liberal persons in my office, even the maga-to-the-core conservatives are pissed.
Don't feel too badly, Senator.
If they've worked in the private sector, they're used to it...
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The Drone Operators and Navy Sailors are generally far away from “Target Sites.”
And since we worship uniforms in the US, we would have to respect his service anyway. They’re heroes. Thats what I keep hearing.
Nobody ever questions when that is repeated ad nauseum. It must be true right?
#impeachtrump
Whereas if they've got even an ounce of intelligence, it'd be
"WTAF you good-for-nothing 💩for🧠 morons!"
Why?
They are taking our government from us, the people, in a bloodless coup.
They are close to success. They're already talking about election changes.
Everything else is slight-of-hand.
The camps are running.
People are disappearing.
RESIST!
Or, for being particularly bright.
These are the characters the Republicans wanted in charge of consequential departments and agencies--comic book characters.
The Republicans OWN his debacle!
"He who acts to save his country from tyranny, domestic terrorism, Project 2025, and radical right wing criminals, violates no laws.”
He's lost the Military.
There is a tangible sense of entitlement, that comes from believing there will be no consequences for their actions.