Power of Myth & Symbolism: Anakin & the Orphean Myth with @fangirling0nly.bsky.social Youtube: https://buff.ly/40z3NIY Itunes: https://apple.co/3YvxKYI Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2T7rVxy iHeartRadio: https://ihr.fm/2EbTHac LinkTree: https://buff.ly/40Redp3 - ThreadSky

wtforce.bsky.social • 29 days ago

Power of Myth & Symbolism: Anakin & the Orphean Myth with @fangirling0nly.bsky.social

Youtube:
https://buff.ly/40z3NIY

Itunes:
https://apple.co/3YvxKYI

Spotify:
https://spoti.fi/2T7rVxy

iHeartRadio:
https://ihr.fm/2EbTHac

LinkTree:
https://buff.ly/40Redp3

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fangirling0nly.bsky.social•28 days ago

Pre-TROS analysis that dives deep into some of these motifs, including more on false bride/black swan aspects!

https://www.tumblr.com/allgirlsareprincesses/187026539910/the-quest-for-the-lost-bride-anidala-and-reylo?source=share

aviendha69.bsky.social•28 days ago

a great podcast on a basic myth: how men treat women - and thus their own femininity - and how it leads to either happiness, or destruction.

And in the long run: how one must learn from their failures/darkness and then do better.

Again, and again. for all life, and then the next generation.

fangirling0nly.bsky.social•28 days ago

I think it's deeper than that... it's for all of us: do we approach each other with domination or care? Control or trust? Violence or love?

fangirling0nly.bsky.social•28 days ago

The lesson of Orphean heroes is that the loss is precipitated by a betrayal - a refusal to keep faith, a need to be in a position of dominance and control. This loss causes a wounding of the masculine, and it will harm the world/galaxy until it is healed.

aviendha69.bsky.social•28 days ago

oh yes. it's hard to synthesize so soon after putting it down.
This message is so damn important right now.

the tale is simple, but the message it tries to convey is hard to see through all of today's complexities

aviendha69.bsky.social•28 days ago

It also brought me to wonder about the Clone wars... how the 'evil' separatists had a point, how they used tech, how Dooku had turned against the Jedi.

why?

and that 'holy war path' also caused Anakin to break with his gentle soul.

The Victory was Pyrrhic.

aviendha69.bsky.social•28 days ago

our cultures are full of ancient myths and symbols that we collectively (re)cognize.

They tell of our struggles, they tell of our victories and failures.
They are the lessons of humanity, as told by the survivors: our ancient wisdom.

aviendha69.bsky.social•28 days ago

Disney has tried to make them funny and cute. ai is now the threat.
But LeGuin warned us about industrialized/corporate culture.

flimflamjimijam.bsky.social•9 days ago

the call at the end of the episode is hard to resist considering the intersection of masculinity through my personal and professional life. over the last 5 years i've worked at gender-based violence support organizations focusing on education and culture change.

flimflamjimijam.bsky.social•9 days ago

continually asking myself not "what needs to change", but "how does change occur? what spurs change?"

when i first entered these roles i distinctly remember having the goal of "leading men by the hand into an identity crisis." the enemy is patriarchal masculinity and i needed to kill it...

flimflamjimijam.bsky.social•9 days ago

because i needed to kill it in myself. i had been trying to kill it in myself. i knew the ways it showed up throughout my life and was bullshit. and i knew the ways it showed up in me and i hated it. i hated patriarchal masculinity, i hated men, i hated myself.

flimflamjimijam.bsky.social•9 days ago

the only way i was worthy - the only way i was a good man - was if i could shun everything that looked like a man inside of me. and when i looked in the mirror, the thing that looked the most like a man to me was anger.

anger that jumped to conclusions and was wrong. anger that was hurtful. anger

flimflamjimijam.bsky.social•9 days ago

built in injustice and unfairness that turned to rage that turned to resentment that turned to a fire that could only burn bridges. anger was the source of all my problems. if i didn't grow up with anger, i wouldn't have these issues. anger was the problem, killing it was how i could accept myself.

flimflamjimijam.bsky.social•9 days ago

so i killed my anger. i didn't allow it. it would rise occasionally, but it was justified. it was righteous. i was righteous.

i was finally living my life the way i thought i needed to. the way i needed to in order to be worthy and accepted.

i was a good man. a safe man.

and i was alone.

twirl4mek.bsky.social•14 days ago

I am shocked you didn't already do this like 5 or 6 years ago, while the ST was happening, I almost could've sworn you did, lol (you maybe mentioned it during the "Vader: Immortal" episode or something).

wtforce.bsky.social•14 days ago

Never in-depth yes I might have called it out then.

mariennemaid.bsky.social•26 days ago

This was like a balm to my soul. Genuinely just putting this on and listening to your wonderful insights, which I hadn’t really connected re: Anakin, was exactly what I needed this week. What a gift you both are 🤍

wtforce.bsky.social•26 days ago

💜💜💜💜

cha-cha-arts.bsky.social•28 days ago

Thank you, MC & Missy, for another thoughtful episode. I think another retelling (or maybe taken some inspiration from) of the Orphean Myth (with a happier ending) would be The Book of Life. It clicked in my head when you brought up the viper biting Eurydice and the masculine is split in two.

87zoolemons.bsky.social•27 days ago

Ah! I came here to say this, yes! 😄 It's such a good story!

cha-cha-arts.bsky.social•28 days ago

Manolo is that caring, creative side and doesn’t want to be a bullfighter, but a musician. Not saying that Joaquín isn’t caring, but he is a military hero.

Maybe I’m looking at this too surface level and need to rewatch the movie to see what I missed.

cha-cha-arts.bsky.social•28 days ago

As a final endnote, thank you for reminding us to love and care about each other. I think I’ve gotten too caught up in my anger in the current state of the world. Your words mean a lot and I had to hold back my tears since I was driving while listening to the episode.

fangirling0nly.bsky.social•28 days ago

🫂

maidenesque.bsky.social•26 days ago

this was really good, thank you!! 🥰

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