The “you didn’t like my genocidal candidate? Ha! now you’re stuck a an even more genocidal president” argument is …ridiculous. Tbh. Sounding like slavers telling the enslaved that they better be happy slaves on this here plantation, because the one up the road they could sell you too is way worse. - ThreadSky

krismeana.bsky.social • 14 days ago

The “you didn’t like my genocidal candidate? Ha! now you’re stuck a an even more genocidal president” argument is …ridiculous. Tbh. Sounding like slavers telling the enslaved that they better be happy slaves on this here plantation, because the one up the road they could sell you too is way worse.

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czxr8.bsky.social•14 days ago

And for some reason they keep blaming the voters, especially the muslim and left leaning ones. Instead of asking why the “good” candidate ain’t give us enough and opted to kowtow to donors and the mythical Republican suburbanite

imagetree.bsky.social•13 days ago

Imagine celebrating endorsements from neocons like the Cheney's of all people.

czxr8.bsky.social•13 days ago

And imagine thinking thats how you beat Donald. As if republicans weren't bigots before he showed up

tllgy.bsky.social•14 days ago

Which is incredible because the numbers don't even back that up, Harris was up or even in the swing states that mattered vs biden 2020, Trump was just up even more than her - and when you point that out to libs they all say I don't care that it's not true I still blame the left/muslims

czxr8.bsky.social•14 days ago

Yep! It's funny how they make fun of right wingers for blaming other groups instead of their elected leaders for their problems and here they are. Doing the exact same thing

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

Missed this because the trolls were on my page over this one ofc lol but yessss exactly

czxr8.bsky.social•14 days ago

Oh I just know they was having a field day on that post but I thank you for your service 🫡😂

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

Anytime 😭🫡

qamped.bsky.social•14 days ago

There is such a thing as a lesser evil. I don’t know if voters like you would have been enough to swing it, but there would be less fear and cruelty in this world if he hadn’t won.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

Please. We've all heard that spiel before. Tell me, was four years of record deportations and shootings by police and a year of genocide under Biden the lesser evil? Is that something you're proud to have fought for?

qamped.bsky.social•13 days ago

Yes. I firmly believe that deportations under Biden were less evil than what is currently happening. At least under Biden deportees were afforded due process. Under Biden student visas were not revoked simply because someone wrote an Op-Ed. Deportees were not shipped to CECOT under Biden.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

"I firmly believe that deportations under Biden were less evil than what is currently happening."

That's the white supremacy, sweetheart.

qamped.bsky.social•13 days ago

White supremacy is an administration that ignores refugees from the world’s atrocities and somehow considers white South Africans fleeing an imaginary genocide as refugees. You are arguing for the administration of white supremacy. Congratulations, “sweetheart”.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

Nope. Unlike you, I have no favorite flavor of fascism. Try again, Cletus.

krustyallslopp.bsky.social•13 days ago

Gaza was annihilated already, what percentage of "lesser evil" is that? Is the fear, death and cruelty meted out to Palestinians, Yemenis, Sudanese etc. lesser fear, death and cruelty because Joe fucking Biden and Kamala "shut up I'm speaking" Harris did it?

qamped.bsky.social•13 days ago

Your theory is that because those awful things happened, legal immigrants should live in fear of being kidnapped by balaclava clad ICE agents? That an administration that ignores refugees from the atrocities you mentioned but welcomes white South Africans is somehow better?

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

I think, that we should center the people being harmed the most by not reducing the harm to “less evil.” The goal should be to reduce harm by stopping the harms we can. We can stop sending our tax money to Israel, for example. Maga accelerates harm under fascism. WE should do opposite, not “less!”

qamped.bsky.social•14 days ago

I am not sure how the people you are advocating for benefit from there being more suffering. Doing the opposite was not on the ballot. We had a choice between bad and much, much worse. Staying on the sidelines was a vote for much, much worse.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•14 days ago

The "Genocide Joe" narrative was a product of right-wing propaganda meant to discourage Ds from voting. And it worked. In truth, Biden was doing everything he could to stop the slaughter while still getting weapons to Israel to defend against the Houthis. He left office with a cease-fire in place.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

You mean like the ceasefire Biden negotiated between Lebanon and Israel? Which Israel violated within hours with no consequences?

Only person guzzling right wing misinformation here is you.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•13 days ago

Bless your heart.

I'm referring to the Israel/Gaza ceasefire and hostage exchange in place just before he left office.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/article/4032622/biden-announces-ceasefire-deal-between-hamas-israel-in-farewell-address/

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

And I'm referring to the Lebanon/Israel "ceasefire" that Biden negotiated and allowed Israel to violate with no consequences.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•13 days ago

I'm not. That's not relevant to the Gaza ceasefire this discussion is about.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

I don't respect your intelligence, so I'll have this conversation without you.

Me: Do you take Trump at his word?
You: No.
Me: Why not?
You: Because he lies
Me: What, you mean lying in the past affects your credibility in the present & future?
You: Yeah.
Me: Great, thanks! You're excused, Cletus.

krismeana.bsky.social•13 days ago

I know most never open a source from non western sources. they can always fact check anything in the article. recall when he and Bibi were trading war crime stories?

Biden: “we’ll help you, but you can’t go in there n carpet bomb.”

Bibi: “why not? You did.”

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/why-disastrous-gaza-war-will-eclipse-decades-joe-biden-political-legacy

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•13 days ago

I'm not sure why you're offering an opinion piece as evidence. Can you offer a solid news report to support your position?

krismeana.bsky.social•13 days ago

And wtf was there ever a need to have cease fire in Lebanon when it is well passed his raggedy red line? Never held his own boundaries the whole time kept funding.. and they tell us that we are the ones who fell for right wing misinformation campaigns.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•13 days ago

I don't know why you're bringing up the Lebanon cease fire, especially since it was yet another of his foreign policy successes. This discussion is about the Gaza ceasefire he negotiated just before leaving office.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

Well, there's this thing called the past, see, and believe it or not we can learn quite a bit about the present by examining it

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•13 days ago

Indeed. Biden did some great things for our country, and we should examine those things instead of falling for right-wing "genocide Joe" narratives.

krismeana.bsky.social•13 days ago

When the past directly connected to the present, it is all contextual. We didn’t fall out of a coconut tree! 😌

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

No, he wasn’t. He wasn’t doing everything he could. South Africa took Isreal to task, Biden admin sent John Kirby out, to publicly denounce South Africa’s findings. Biden admin also sent billions of dollars to Bibi that year. I don’t doubt right wing hypocrites call him genocidejoe, but it was apt.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•14 days ago

Here's just one example. This was not a one-off, he stopped weapons shipments several times even as AIPAC screamed.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/classroom/daily-news-lessons/2024/05/biden-administration-pauses-some-weapons-shipments-to-israel

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

Also the “cease fire” never a cease fire. Not bidens fault, but speaks to IOF genocidal behavior. Search reports from the days that the ceasefire was in place and see: civilians were still being killed.

These are sourced claims. I’m not a bot, not a maga apologist. I trust you to fact check me.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•14 days ago

I don't believe at all you're a bot or anything other than someone posting their sincere opinion. I'm only pointing out that much of the information that supports this narrative comes from insincere sources, and discounts what Biden actually did to protect Gaza.

soapachu.bsky.social•13 days ago

What did he do to protect Gaza? Because 'arms sales to Israel' isn't really in line with that.

ox45tallboy.bsky.social•13 days ago

Israel was also defending against the Houthis. Biden stopped arms sales several times to get Netanyahu to stop attacks on Gaza and let aid through.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/07/us/politics/israel-biden-arms.html

krismeana.bsky.social•13 days ago

He built a raggedy pier, meant to be “getting aide into Gaza” it was only there for 22 days? Pier was last min reaction to poor polling at that point. A failed, 230 min vanity project, thrown together. Incompetence, left 62 us troops injured during pier construction.

https://www.reuters.com/world/bidens-gaza-pier-injured-far-more-troops-than-previously-known-2025-05-07/

morpheus55.bsky.social•14 days ago

To not too

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

Did you need something? or are you just here to be seen in my mentions. Idk you, so what do you have to say? “Not you too” well yes, me too. Now where do we go from here.

indeedagem.bsky.social•14 days ago

😂😂😂

joedferg.bsky.social•14 days ago

Thanks to the pro&anti-Palestinian blocks and the pro&anti-Israeli blocks of Democrat voters we ended up with the worst possible choice.

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

It’s not thanks to anyone except people who said there are two choices, Joe. I feel like deep down, you have to see that. The people who said we have a choice between two horrible outcomes are the reason. Trump voters ARE the worst. No reasoning w them, or ppl like him. Are you the same? I hope not!

joedferg.bsky.social•13 days ago

Getting To the two finalists was indeed problematic. Choosing between them was not. I believe we need five viable parties. But between Trump and Harris, there really was no problem seeing what SHOULD HAVE BEEN the right choice. So, thanks to the hobby horse voters for their “statement” votes.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•14 days ago

There were two choices. You had to decide which option of those two were better. Many Americans failed that test and now we have the worse option. They picked the option of in addition to being whipped, we will now starve you.

penfoldsfiv.bsky.social•13 days ago

lmao you guys insisted that you'd win without us and didn't need our votes

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•13 days ago

LMAO. You think not voting was a win for you....

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

Nah, there were plenty of choices. You chose to vote for genocide because you are okay with genocide. I voted for the woman who was arrested protesting for Palestine because I am not okay with genocide.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•13 days ago

You voted for someone with no chance of winning because you are so moral.....so the very worst choice is in power because you have "moral standards". I am sure the starving children of Gaza appreciate your "moral choice" as they are death marched to Libya.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

Again, you voted for genocide. Get off your high horse, Hitler.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•13 days ago

Again, you let the worse choice.... genocide plus starvation plus likely death march to Libya happen because you refused to vote for "moral reasons" and you think you made the moral choice.

prostate-solution.bsky.social•13 days ago

You voted for genocide. No amount of excuses and bitching and whining will change that, genocide boy.

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

So you agree, enslaved people, and people being genocided are less human than you; therefore, we should accept your version of oppression, because the other one is worse. Funny, the ppl in control of the “two options” are never the ones doing the dying. You are always the one yeilding the “options.”

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•14 days ago

I don't agree. Your flawed analogy implies a slave would pick the plantation that whips and starves you over the plantation that whips because the whipping plantation is awful and does not have the best interest if the enslaved in mind, so they should pick the whipping and starving. It is so stupid.

izquierda22.bsky.social•14 days ago

Look up the concepts of "neither" and "both" it might blow your mind.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•14 days ago

They did. And we ended up with a worse choice. Not only are Gazans being bombed and starved, but Trump is going to move them to Libya so he can make Gaza into a beach resort for the wealthy.

izquierda22.bsky.social•14 days ago

So there was a third choice? Seems people took it. That's the right thing to do in a choice between two evils, pick neither.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•14 days ago

No. No hon. When you have to choose between two evils, you choose the lesser of the two evils. Those who don't choose are picking the greater evil. They think they are making a moral choice, but they are allowing the greater evil. They should be ashamed, but instead they actually try to shame others

izquierda22.bsky.social•14 days ago

It sounds to me you knowingly chose an evil choice, still lost, and are now wishing you'd just stood on principle.

izquierda22.bsky.social•14 days ago

The lesser of two evils is still an evil.

krismeana.bsky.social•14 days ago

Right. A lesser evil party should not be difficult to move toward policies that are not evil, at all. if they had principles, instead of trying to gain centrists and never trump gop votes? maybe they would have captured new voters, youth voters, uncommitted, and maybe even some 3rd party voters.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•14 days ago

Right. Allowing the greater evil by not voting for the lesser evil enabled Trump. Now Gazans are being bombed and starved. Good thing you thought the centrists would save Gazans.

sohearmeroar.bsky.social•14 days ago

Look up the concept of either/ or. There was no valid 3rd choice.

izquierda22.bsky.social•14 days ago

Hmm, so if there was no valid third choice, then what did all those non-voters you're so upset about do? Sounds like they took the neither option.