Tesla has put Nissan back in the list of automakers getting Supercharger access in NA "soon". It sounds like Tesla prematurely confirmed Ariya drivers having access yesterday. However, we hear that it should be coming soon. - ThreadSky

fredlambert.bsky.social • 99 days ago

Tesla has put Nissan back in the list of automakers getting Supercharger access in NA "soon". It sounds like Tesla prematurely confirmed Ariya drivers having access yesterday.

However, we hear that it should be coming soon.

Reposted from Electrek

Tesla jumped the gun, Nissan drivers will have to wait a bit for Supercharger access

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theflyer.bsky.social•99 days ago

Is there a list somewhere of which OEMs have access today? I know of Rivian, GM, and Ford. Anyone else?

fredlambert.bsky.social•99 days ago

Volvo and Polestar also.

Nissan and Mercedes are next « soon ». Next month probably

theflyer.bsky.social•99 days ago

Can you make a post that is updated when new companies are added, so I can have something to point to in my EV advocacy? Bonus if it included a section on any OEMs expected to be approved in, say, the next six months. Isn't Kia due to gain access very early in 2025?

corywright.bsky.social•99 days ago

Yes, a page or article at @electrek.bsky.social would be very helpful, @fredlambert.bsky.social.

The original "Tesla NACS Charger Adoption Tracker" seems to no longer be receiving updates:

https://evstation.com/tesla-nacs-charger-adoption-tracker/

theflyer.bsky.social•99 days ago

Ya, EV adoption sold out and went private.

fredlambert.bsky.social•99 days ago

Tesla already has a page for that. Although as show. By this situation with Nissan, when a new automaker is added, it is worth checking if it was confirmed by the automaker added since Tesla can make mistakes https://www.tesla.com/NACS

theflyer.bsky.social•98 days ago

📌

theflyer.bsky.social•99 days ago

Thanks.

mychaelp.bsky.social•99 days ago

I still do not understand why it's so difficult to get an EV charged. ALL cars can go to ALL gas stations for gas but with EVs, it is not so simple
Maybe part of the reason they are only 9/100 sales.

jamesonbrent.bsky.social•99 days ago

Not 100% true. You'd be surprised how many diesel drivers accidentally fill with gasoline and vice versa. Some diesel drivers accidentally fill with DEF. Our current NACS/CCS divide could have been solved if Elon and the SAE team agreed to make the standard the same thing back in the early 2010s

mychaelp.bsky.social•99 days ago

Ha! I've seen the diesel thing, but at least here in CA the handles are green.

But ok, almost all cars can go to a gas station at almost every freeway ramp or busy street corners and fill up without an adapter

jamesonbrent.bsky.social•99 days ago

Yeah, that's definitely the struggle right now is that most gas drivers can just assume they'll see one when they need one. With EVs you need an app or the cars route planning unless you know your local area well.

jamesonbrent.bsky.social•99 days ago

It continues to get better though. Think that 12 years ago there really were no DC fast chargers and now Tesla has 6500 stations worldwide. It will get better. Also home/workplace charging means you don't need as many

mychaelp.bsky.social•98 days ago

We should adopt standard signage. And have adequate lighting, shade and staff at charging stations too. All required by law at gas stations. Why not elect?.
Imagine sending your teenage daughter to a dimly lit parking lot behind Target to sit and charge for 30 minutes.

I think that would help

jamesonbrent.bsky.social•98 days ago

Not sure if I agree with the requirement for staff full time but yes many DC charging sites are definitely lacking in amenities

fredlambert.bsky.social•99 days ago

This is exactly what this move is fixing, but you have to give it some time. NACS is now the standard but 2024-2025 are transition years.

By 2026, all new EVs in North America are going to have NACS connectors as standard and the chargers will all have NACS.

mychaelp.bsky.social•99 days ago

It's still crazy to see this at all.
It has the feeling that Elon is doing people a favor.

These cars need adapters, correct?
So now Tesla EVs need an adapter to use certain chargers and other manuf also need adapter for Tesla chargers?

It's a mess

mychaelp.bsky.social•99 days ago

Another example
At work we add charging stations to our projects here in CA per Cal Green Code.
25 or more stalls we add 2 chargers. One is ADA. None are Tesla chargers as they won't sell them to our clients.
So Teslas need an adapter to use?
No wonder my Mom doesn't want one

fredlambert.bsky.social•99 days ago

Level 2 adapters are cheap & common, often included w/ the car. It literally adds 4 secs to the charging experience.

I don’t know when this project happened, but now not only Tesla sells NACS level 2 chargers. It makes no sense to deploy non-NACS chargers. If recent, this project was mishandled.

mychaelp.bsky.social•99 days ago

Ok I understand how it all works. Just my opinion is it's not as simple as pumping gas. And it needs to be for 91/100 buyers in the U.S.

As an architect, we can't even buy Tesla chargers since we only install 2 on avg per project in CA.

fredlambert.bsky.social•99 days ago

It’s not a mess. Existing non-Tesla EVs do need a NACS to CCS adapter to use Superchargers and vice-versa for Tesla owners using non-Tesla chargers though the latter is uncommon. The former is becoming more common and adapters won’t be needed starting next years as NACS becomes standard on new EVs.

drivenbyevs.bsky.social•99 days ago

One reason might be because ICE vehicles have had 100+ years of development and societal integration. And working through nagging like problems like standardization, etc. Plus there isn't commodity involved that people are motivated to get rich off of.

mychaelp.bsky.social•99 days ago

I'd say the lithium is getting many quite rich.

EVs have been around for decades, and you could go back even further I believe to near WWII for early version.

I'd like to see all chargers fit one cable. And then maybe a special one for large batteries like large trucks use

drivenbyevs.bsky.social•99 days ago

EVs actually go back to before the 1900s but never enjoyed wide spread adoption. Mostly because the tech at the time couldn't advance enough.

Lithium isn't the same as gasoline which provides a consistent source of revenue across millions of customers.

I agree that standards will help a lot.

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