Does that make Veilguard a failure? Depends on your metric. We have many cases of games that sold well but came under whatever the internal projections/forecasts for that game were. Whether those were out to lunch or not, to them they’re the only numbers that matter. - ThreadSky

davidgaider.bsky.social • 20 days ago

Does that make Veilguard a failure? Depends on your metric. We have many cases of games that sold well but came under whatever the internal projections/forecasts for that game were. Whether those were out to lunch or not, to them they’re the only numbers that matter.

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darovic.id.au•20 days ago

Amazing how an expectations problem never gets handled as an expectations problem. Veilguard was solid fun.

Also seems to be part of the usual sinosodal pattern of pure single player VS multiplayer live service.

lotwk.bsky.social•7 days ago

From everything I've seen in life, one could make the best story in the world but there's no guarantee that it will be a commercial success. People are fickle about what media they want to consume and how and when they want to spend their money.

IMO Bioware has a habit of underpromoting while the>

lotwk.bsky.social•7 days ago

rynrealmwalker.bsky.social•20 days ago

Case in point: most square Enix published games are considered "failures". Rise of the Tomb Raider was a "failure" even though I would never consider it to be.

rdubisz.bsky.social•20 days ago

So was Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy - an absolute banger of a game that Square gave very little marketing money and it failed to reach their 'success metric'. Go figure.

mossainite.bsky.social•20 days ago

I'm sure anything less than inquisitions' numbers would've been considered a disappointment by the higher ups, they only ever expect inclining market share

gulder.bsky.social•20 days ago

Understanding how a ‘business target’ comes to be has been both enlightening and disappointing, especially given how they run the world.

fudgeshicle.bsky.social•20 days ago

It undersold DA2, Bubba. That's a failure. Maybe don't worry so much about pandering and "live services" and focus on a single player story and experience like the previous titles that outsold Failguard.

darkishphoenix.bsky.social•20 days ago

I was excited for the next dragon age installment for a very long time, then I wasn’t because of all the news coming out about production behind the scenes.

Then it came out and the reviews were not that bad. Was it hailed as the greatest thing ever? No. But the reception was good enough to buy it

darkishphoenix.bsky.social•20 days ago

Corporates always get the wrong message out of “failures”. A vocal minority were complaining about the inclusiveness and art direction, forgetting that dragon age has always been inclusive and forgetting the graphics of the original. Loved the game but the art was janky even for the time

darkishphoenix.bsky.social•20 days ago

My main issue with veilguard was a lack of real choices and consequences for those choices which the original and other rpgs like BG3 did really well. It’s what makes a good rpg. The problem was putting it more as an action game with rpg elements, but that’s not the lesson corporate will learn

davidgaider.bsky.social•20 days ago

As is usually the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle between all the claims… but that’s boring, and doesn’t make Veilguard the example (or cautionary tale) that some really want it to be.

ragnarok-in-a-box.bsky.social•17 days ago

Honestly, I do feel that there are some... opportunities with Veilguard. But personally, I just am sad that the IP is owned by the company and not the creators that sweat blood; and tears to make the prior games as amazing as they were.

I can only imagine how this makes you feel, David.

bareloto.bsky.social•19 days ago

my metric is my happy hours with it. Not many. What is worse, while it had good moments, i can hardly recall those.
It could be so devastating bad, like dating someone you though you like and turn out to be what was i thinking kind of relatiship. Almost disgusting or ashamed - ( no prob with DEI)

leliwardens.bsky.social•20 days ago

Your thread and posts on All Of This has been very insightful and deeply appreciated as someone who's just a consumer, but I must say I have never heard the word "ballyhoo" and I'm smitten with it. Thank you for the new vocab.

lunkensko.bsky.social•20 days ago

The whole problem with that assessment is that the other games are JRPGs where the sales in the homeland, by the home-grown CEOs is fine at like 225.000 copies sold cuz it's relative to JP's gaming population. EA's problem is that they think everything has to be like FIF-- excuse me, 'FC Sports'.

briancjensen.bsky.social•19 days ago

It depends on the budget. And Veilguard was very expensive and sold less than 3 million copies.

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