On genAI and art: "A machine can ostensibly produce the same results as a basketball player, throw a ball in the hoop and score points against other machines. But [...p]eople don't watch sports for the concept of throwing balls in hoops, people watch sports for human spectacle and physical ability." - ThreadSky

beleghir.bsky.social • 281 days ago

On genAI and art: "A machine can ostensibly produce the same results as a basketball player, throw a ball in the hoop and score points against other machines. But [...p]eople don't watch sports for the concept of throwing balls in hoops, people watch sports for human spectacle and physical ability."

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genuine question and I hope it doesn't make you feel uncomfortable answering. If it does feel free not to!!
I know LLM's, l… —

Apologies in advance, this is going to sound harsh.

'What is different then?' It's not complicated. A computer is not a huma…

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alfiegallagher.bsky.social•233 days ago

People enjoy the arc of human frailty in sports: burst on the scene fearless new pup, mid-career pomp, sliding trying to hold on to past glories, ‘one more fight’. Mulch is mulch.

jdrch.github.io•281 days ago

I mean, there's also the fact that most Gen AI art is objectively bad

filbi.bsky.social•281 days ago

Also yes.

abadchoiceofwords.bsky.social•281 days ago

It's more than that. Why is there a chair in the background of your painting?
GenAI: "There are chairs in the background of similar paintings."
Artist: "Because that's where he likes to sit, and that's the sort of chair he likes to sit in. That's his chair. That's 𝘩𝘪𝘮."
Details matter.

iedamarcondes.com•233 days ago

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beleghir.bsky.social•281 days ago

This is officially getting more interaction than I can respond to; what a surprise twist to my Monday. 😂 Glad that the quote I pulled from Chira's post is resonating with so many people; the whole post is worth reading too!

beleghir.bsky.social•281 days ago

Also please don't expect erudite analysis of tech and art if you follow me; this is an anime fandom account

jeffreyellis.ca•281 days ago

This is spot on!

ceetar.bsky.social•281 days ago

Not every image created is meant to be some grand art.

Sunsets are pretty universally better in person. So are waterfalls. We still photograph them.

lostcity.bsky.social•281 days ago

You’re arguing for the ball-in-hoop machine. The machine is boring. It was impressive the first time, and then it’s always the same. No two amateur photographers see the world the same way, and they’ll photograph the same sunset differently. The human is the vital link to the emotions of the sunset.

lostcity.bsky.social•281 days ago

I would rather spend the rest of my life only seeing the art or photography or writing or movies of amateur hobbyists, than have all the art I see split 50/50 between professionals and AI. AI art is dead inside.

ceetar.bsky.social•280 days ago

dead inside to you. That's fine. Not to everyone.

the human connect is the human feeling of knowing what a sunset is. Connecting with that.

Then someone wonders "Wonder what a sunset localized entirely within in kitchen looks like." That's the human moment, no matter what tool is used.

lostcity.bsky.social•280 days ago

An AI is not alive. If no human was involved in making it, it is BY DEFINITION dead. Legally dead, even. It can’t be copyrighted. If a robot can’t be bothered to look at a sunset, it’s got nothing to say to me, someone who has opinions and feelings about sunsets.

ceetar.bsky.social•280 days ago

lots of humans were involved in making it.

lostcity.bsky.social•280 days ago

Lots of humans whose work was stolen and mashed up into pulp to feed the program.
The people YOU’RE referring to are programmers, not artists. The artist of a photo is the photographer, not the engineers who built the camera, who then have no say in how the image looks. AI has no photographer.

brushwolf.bsky.social•280 days ago

If I photograph a sunset or a waterfall and real life was way better maybe that’s because I wanted to remember that sunset or that waterfall rather than an average of sunset and waterfall photos which comes with a steep environmental price tag.

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