🇪🇺🇺🇦 Readiness to support Ukraine “until it wins” has fallen sharply across western Europe, polling by YouGov, - The Guardian Support for Ukraine's victory: 🇸🇪Sweden - 50%, 🇩🇰Denmark - 40% 🇬🇧UK - 36% Encourage a negotiated end to fighting: 🇮🇹Italy - 55% 🇪🇸Spain - 46% 🇫🇷France - 43% 🇩🇪Germany - 45% - ThreadSky

maks23.bsky.social • 86 days ago

🇪🇺🇺🇦 Readiness to support Ukraine “until it wins” has fallen sharply across western Europe, polling by YouGov, - The Guardian

Support for Ukraine's victory:
🇸🇪Sweden - 50%,
🇩🇰Denmark - 40%
🇬🇧UK - 36%

Encourage a negotiated end to fighting:
🇮🇹Italy - 55%
🇪🇸Spain - 46%
🇫🇷France - 43%
🇩🇪Germany - 45%

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marguerite00.bsky.social•86 days ago

This is unlikely to be true & most likely to be russian propaganda. In any event, I do not believe it.

revfd.bsky.social•86 days ago

I agree with you.
Reeks of kacapstan,IMHO.

msderohanes.bsky.social•86 days ago

😒😔

cgronau.bsky.social•86 days ago

Nope disagree with these findings, back Ukraine to the hilt. Anything else let's russia off the hook for it's naked aggression and allows it to rebuild and continue with other targets down the line
#Ukraine #support

lammiswatching.bsky.social•86 days ago

No way only 50% of Swedes stand behind Ukraine's victory; national polls show a much higher support. WTF is wrong with The Guardian?!

rationalcoypu.bsky.social•86 days ago

I’m ashamed and contemptuous of any of my countrymen who can’t see that to allow Russia to gain from its unprovoked aggression is to invite further murderous invasions.
We MUST support Ukraine and its enormously brave citizens until Russia collapses.

It won’t be long!

jakobgamertsfelder.bsky.social•86 days ago

Ukraine has won. Because it thinks that way. Variations of the finish line exist. Getting nukes. Putin dying. Russian Federation disintegration. The USA becoming reliable. But in all of them Ukraine wins. Polls don't win wars, Ukrainians do.

ahrentlov.com•86 days ago

Fake “news”

ishouldhelp.bsky.social•86 days ago

I have been a supporter of Ukraine since 2014. I have never wavered in that, and I never will 🇺🇦💪🇺🇦

aerkarri.bsky.social•86 days ago

In relation to the Nordic countries this is quite strange, as far as I know. But in any case, when conducting research, one must not mask the truth with the word “peace” in the sense of “surrender” and “occupation in the Buchi format.”

batbrewer.bsky.social•86 days ago

Those who want a negotiated settlement that cedes parts of Ukraine to Russia should list which parts of their own countries they'd be happy to cede if Putin attacked them, and how many troops they will provide to police the new border and stop Putin just doing it all again when he's restocked.

recyclotronix.bsky.social•86 days ago

Just because you see the potential for peace doesn’t mean you don’t want them to potentially win if peace is impossible.

christianmalmgren.bsky.social•86 days ago

What a load of absolue crap ! As a swede I know this not to be true even by a longshot.
Latest poll shows that 90% of us supports Ukraine. This is just a journalistic copy/paste of russian desinformation.

tjoervi.bsky.social•86 days ago

100% agree. Sweden stands super strong behind Ukraine! This poll is in one or the other way desinformation.

christianmalmgren.bsky.social•86 days ago

Thank you. Made me raging mad reading it !

tjoervi.bsky.social•65 days ago

Btw, here the claim is defuted by Gallup.

Disinformation:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/d...

Actual:
https://gallupnordic.com/2025/01/13/g...

christianmalmgren.bsky.social•65 days ago

Thanx friend!

tjoervi.bsky.social•63 days ago

Updated link to the Guardian's disinformation/article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/26/support-for-ukraine-russia-war-yougov-poll-survey

christianmalmgren.bsky.social•63 days ago

Thanx by the way! 🙂

christianmalmgren.bsky.social•63 days ago

😡😡😡

casuallycausal.bsky.social•86 days ago

Yeah, these numbers seem hard to believe. If true, then Europe has forgotten what is worth fighting for and in essence is inviting murderous dictators to keep stealing, killing, raping and forcing free people into submission

lizzygreene-1930.bsky.social•86 days ago

I'm not sure I would trust the Guardian 🤔

lklint.bsky.social•86 days ago

I don't believe those figures a bit. Sweden won't ramp down support for Ukraine.
There is no popular demand for doing so.

botheration.bsky.social•86 days ago

Did they poll the Russians too?

pauldu.bsky.social•86 days ago

Putin has been dug in to win the PR battle since the initial attack was unsuccessful. Propaganda and weariness are his most powerful weapons. By relentlessly attacking the energy grid and civilian targets he maximizes the misery that he inflicts on the victims of his war

mg67.bsky.social•86 days ago

It shows that the Russian propaganda is still very effective.

Quite often ”people” shows up on social media saying that supporting Ukraine is equal to war mongering, and that peace negotiations with Russia is to prefer to ”save lifes”.

They all seems to forget that Russia never lives up to it.

putte666.bsky.social•65 days ago

Its not true. Check how good yougov are historically. When it comes to sweden its 90% support ukraine. Not 50%. Its a lie.

trump-is-a-virus.bsky.social•86 days ago

This poll is highly sus

markoestergaard.bsky.social•86 days ago

As a Dane I find it very hard to believe those numbers. Ukraine must prevail

rodrigo4.bsky.social•86 days ago

Infiltration of the ruble into the media ...

ricardopagano.bsky.social•86 days ago

The people who took part in these surveys wouldn’t be saying this if they were invaded and being murdered

rahuladler.bsky.social•86 days ago

of course as with israel until the enemy is not wreaking havoc on you and not breaking your own window glasses it is important to tell others stories about world peace. when someone shoots at you rockets or is raping your family daily you think differently.

notafkingnpc.bsky.social•86 days ago

YouGov is SHIT! Stop posting western media articles, they've been SHIT for THREE YEARS!

dkniels.bsky.social•86 days ago

Something is not right. Poll doesn't reflect support in Denmark.

nilsanders1965.bsky.social•86 days ago

Given the Public discussion in Sweden hardly correct.

Dig in to whatever sources are behind this.

theenormousroom.bsky.social•86 days ago

If the West actually armed Ukraine and let it do a bit of high visibility winning, like dropping the Kerch Bridge, then public opinion might not be quite so negative.

I seem to remember when Ukraine was running rampant through Kharkiv and Kherson, public opinion was sky high.

pavelsklenar.bsky.social•86 days ago

Let us not betray the good that is in us by cowardly submission to what is bad in society.

thelostcomms.bsky.social•65 days ago

YouGov often has rather questionable statistics.

dbyoungs.bsky.social•86 days ago

The Guardian unfortunately always dooming the Ukrainians. Not sure why. Luke Harding really ought to know better.

anastaria.bsky.social•86 days ago

Guardian is a left-"peace for the sake of peace and bothism" shit. They had an article last week or so with "poor ruSSkis hit by ukrainian" with photos of bombed Ukraine lol. They have a narrative and they will push it.

dbyoungs.bsky.social•86 days ago

I don't mind the leftism. It's the defeatism I don't like.

rfb71.bsky.social•86 days ago

The question 'until it wins' is loaded in itself. Pointless survey

kenheblaze.bsky.social•86 days ago

Wanting a negotiation now doesn't mean whishing for a capitulation. Putin must be forced into negotiations, but the options on the table are unfeasible in the mid term. We need to buy time while ATST preventing Ukraine from being further drained. Obviously, I oppose any removal of sanctions.

sciscribbler.bsky.social•86 days ago

The two options are not mutually exclusive, the poll is misleading

dannyaltman.bsky.social•85 days ago

How about asking people if they support Ukraine's right to self-defense under the UN charter. Or if they support creating the conditions under which Russia will feel free to attack other European countries.

jususisforsuckers.bsky.social•86 days ago

Elon is winning..

mushtaq44.bsky.social•86 days ago

Whether you “believe” these figures (and to extent they are accurate they are a consequence of Western weakness creating perception of Russian strength in an “unwinnable” war), they say all that is wrong about polling. A subject of complexity boiled down into two “one sentence” competing “options”.

kastero.bsky.social•86 days ago

This development was anticipated by the de-nazifiers already from the start.
Sometimes they outsmart the democracies so badly, that it´s worrying, if those are able to protect themselves against dictatorships, even in a broader sence - than Ukraine.

petecomplacent.bsky.social•86 days ago

Suggestive question. People anticipate negotiations now the orange idiot is taking power in the US.

Ask if people want Russia out of Ukraine, Putin on trial and Russia to pay reparations.

renelosna.bsky.social•86 days ago

Between 1/4 and 1/3 did not answer the questions from that 🧻poll.
The only thing we can deduct is, that now people are more tired of the war, than one year ago.

renelosna.bsky.social•86 days ago

BTW those that keep saying 'All wars ends at the negotiation table' should educate themselves by reading about Dönitz Flensburg Government:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flensburg_Government

tordenskjoldcph.bsky.social•86 days ago

📌

auonsson.bsky.social•65 days ago

Wonder where the Russian Flensburg is =)

renelosna.bsky.social•65 days ago

Gelendzhik 😁

auonsson.bsky.social•65 days ago

Antalya, Turkey =)

renelosna.bsky.social•65 days ago

Could be.

Sorry for that by the way, I really liked the old Kaleiçi behind Emperor Hadrians walls, 20 years ago.
At that time mostly Germans, but now Russian 💩

matsrodeby.bsky.social•64 days ago

Fake news at least Swedish support is a lot higher

per52oskar.bsky.social•64 days ago

YouGov IS FAKE NEWS. !

JUST WOMIT ON THEM.

SLAVA UCRAINA FROM SWEDEN

per52oskar.bsky.social•64 days ago

SLAVA UCRAINA FROM SWEDEN

darth-vlad.bsky.social•86 days ago

If it is true, it is Russian propaganda! We should stop Russian propaganda in Europe!

lungta1260.bsky.social•86 days ago

As our televisions repeat that Ukraine is losing it is normal that people are influenced by what is said but we all know that it is false

metsot.bsky.social•86 days ago

obvious falsehood is obvious, not to mention the guardian is a rag

jsanne-wander.bsky.social•86 days ago

Luckily Ukraine's future is not determined by a popular vote in these countries.

derkrustenshultz.bsky.social•86 days ago

The guardian def puts out of crazy pieces

adrian-h-sophia.bsky.social•86 days ago

A meaningless poll, with meaningless questions. 'Is war a good thing? ' 'No.' 'Is it better that the war should stop? ' 'Yes.'

jtay2023.bsky.social•86 days ago

This wouldn't be happening had the European governments done as their people wanted anf supported Ukraine properly from the start.
The only reason it's happening now is because the war has become a stalemate slugging match with heavy casualties for little gain. Ukraine should be given whats needed.

kresten2.bsky.social•33 days ago

The big countries are failing Europe on the governmental level and if this is true in the electoral level.

daveacoley.bsky.social•86 days ago

Seems the R bots and trolls who infest our media have been successful.

comandantediavolo.bsky.social•86 days ago

Supporting Ukraine doesn’t mean ignore reality. Even zelensky told that retake occupied territories by force it’s not possible at the moment. Nonetheless I would like to see total support as long as it needs.

endofthe.bsky.social•86 days ago

The EU should be like a wolf - instead it resembles a stoned koala: weak support for Ukraine, broken cables at the bottom of the Baltic Sea, Moscow's influence in the EU.

bjornfagerstedt.bsky.social•64 days ago

This YouGov survey has been critized. For example in Sweden, recent surveys from more reliable institues show support for UA "until it wins" MUCH higher, close to 80%

kriann8.bsky.social•65 days ago

YouGov is basen on people who themselves enrolled in the pole.

Not statistical best practies.

I would say 90 % are pro Ukraine in Sweden.

valkyriansyn.bsky.social•64 days ago

Absolutely. If the question is do you support ukraine its 90% .depending on what the question entails it's rarely ever under 75%
https://www.tv4.se/artikel/6mkbeyzKKtWwGhmoU5oGjb/tre-av-fyra-svenskar-stoettar-ukraina-hoegst-stoed-bland-kvinnor?utm_source=tv4.se&utm_medium=shared_link

mick2mark.bsky.social•86 days ago

All must be ONLY stating Ruz Must exit all of Ukraine,nothing less than all ,and closed down till that happens, Kazak India chyn must be on that same page as all of @un in fuk back to #ruznastia

klastommy.bsky.social•86 days ago

Ok, i joined the yougov panel. I have no idea how accurate the international yougov panels are since all you need is an email and a name. Could be lots of fake accounts...

specialattack.bsky.social•86 days ago

And who exactly researched this?

123xyz.bsky.social•82 days ago

Did you read the post? It identifies YouGov as the source.

voluntold.bsky.social•86 days ago

I guess Trump can just take Greenland after all. No point in fighting over sovereignty and what-not

nikostg.bsky.social•86 days ago

We in the U.K. are higher than that I guarantee you.

notsoblackcat.bsky.social•86 days ago

fuck Guardian. fuck all polls.

bobafella.bsky.social•86 days ago

I struggle to believe this tbh. It’s hardly the sentiment I see here in Scandinavia.

zeseadog1966.bsky.social•86 days ago

Estonia next, with even less support to expect.

needtopee.bsky.social•85 days ago

BS! I support them more than ever, as do most in the UK.

b-rad-lee.bsky.social•64 days ago

All of Germany and all Germans should hang their heads in shame!!!

Shame on your cowardliness!

pacientcz.bsky.social•86 days ago

I don't believe those numbers.

imbor.bsky.social•86 days ago

From a swedish perspective this seems strange, this polling must have some serius issues. The general feeling here is that of a cemented support for Ukraine.

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