i don't think most of the guys at the top believe this tbh. i think they pretend to believe it because they think it's good marketing. "this AI we made is so powerful and dangerous and we're so scared of how powerful and amazing it is. $10,000 a month and it can be yours" - ThreadSky

jtp.bsky.social • 18 days ago

i don't think most of the guys at the top believe this tbh. i think they pretend to believe it because they think it's good marketing. "this AI we made is so powerful and dangerous and we're so scared of how powerful and amazing it is. $10,000 a month and it can be yours"

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Reminder that our AI obsessed tech oligarchs believe that they will inevitably invent god and only they can be trusted to ensure god won’t be evil and that lesser men will be manipulated by evil future god through time to create evil future god.

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ph00tbag.bsky.social•18 days ago

I think most of them don't believe they are morally more capable of creating a more moral AI. I think they all believe they are creating Roko's Basilisk.

jaaro.bsky.social•18 days ago

Yeah it's basically just "please make this several hundred billion dollar investment into a worthless technology worth it"

koupip.bsky.social•18 days ago

me when i'm in a selling a turing algorithm to a bunch of morons competition and my opponant is a tech oligarch

yasseramerifat.bsky.social•18 days ago

Yeah, and now that regulators are circling it’s all the more beneficial to make AI tech seem like a priesthood that only they know well enough to write the rules for

anniejump.bsky.social•18 days ago

Americans love an "end of the world" story. How many times have we heard from cults that the world is ending and "God" will be upon us? "Rapture."

A Liberal (secular Christianity) version of "the end times." Techno-aristocrat oligarchs finding their cult following in Liberals.

(GOP are libs, too)

birdrespecter.bsky.social•18 days ago

There is no way they believe in that lol. Most of them are praying to god that they somehow miraculously create something useful on accident while continuing to set billions of investor dollars on fire

tehan.bsky.social•18 days ago

I think it's a mix tbh. Confirmation bias gets in there and they start believing their own hype. If they thought it was such a dead end I don't think they'd be so eager to compete as well

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

that's a good point

tannintheyeen.bsky.social•18 days ago

Yeah, there are lobby organizations which tell everyone who wants to listen to them how dangerous AI is; and those organizations are heavily funded by people from the AI sphere. It's a way to make AI seem more potent, but also to monopolize AI development.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/23/ai-safety-washington-lobbying-00142783

rnjesus.bsky.social•18 days ago

The weirdos actually working on these AI algorithms 100% believe they will invent God.

The investors and CEOs just want to manipulate the weirdos into inventing a way to make human labor obsolete so they can horde all the wealth for themselves.

tannintheyeen.bsky.social•18 days ago

I personally don't even think they want to make human labour obsolete, they want AI as a sort of mechanized 'reserve army of labour' to keep wages down. I think exploiting humans will always be more profitable, ask the workers in Bangladesh who produce our clothing with 80 year old sewing machines

rnjesus.bsky.social•17 days ago

No, I think it's their end game. They dream about a day when AI and machines can do the jobs that currently require human dexterity or tangential thinking (whether that's feasible or not). They would LOVE to just upkeep machines they own that run 24/7, no holidays, no breaks, and no need for humans.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

yeah i'm referring to investors and CEOs when i say people at the top. i prolly could have been more clear abt that

rnjesus.bsky.social•18 days ago

To be fair, the investors and CEOs are always the ones ruining things, so I suppose it is always implied...

taylorjoseph.bsky.social•18 days ago

It kinda sucks how dressing up algorithms with smoke and mirrors has fooled basically everyone
We don't even know if true artificial intelligence is possible yet!

theaveragescum.bsky.social•18 days ago

I agree with you but I do believe Musk is the exact kind of person who would go insane when he learned about Roko's Basilisk, and I'm not too sure that's not at least a part of why he is the way he is.

tannintheyeen.bsky.social•18 days ago

He literally came in contact with Grimes because one of her songs mentions a "Rococo Basilisk" as a joke and he contacted her about it and they then met to talk about it.

theaveragescum.bsky.social•18 days ago

wait like for real? I didnt know that haha

tannintheyeen.bsky.social•18 days ago

Yeah

https://www.vice.com/en/article/what-is-rokos-basilisk-elon-musk-grimes/

theaveragescum.bsky.social•18 days ago

god fucking dammit

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

musk is a seperate entity yeah

theaveragescum.bsky.social•18 days ago

absolutely. ive just been sitting on that thought for a while now and i needed to get it out.

dashwallkick.bsky.social•18 days ago

Tech has been getting away with a ton for decades because they can big time everyone with "sure, you don't understand it, but I do, and I'm on your side, so you have to trust me with all the money and power you can find" and this is just that again

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

for the first two decades of the internet the tech industry made enough good things that it seemed like a net positive for society. but now all the good things they made have become widely adopted and integrated into our lives and for like the past ten years they haven't had anything new.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

the computers are online and connected and portable and mainstream now. there's nothing big left to do in service of that goal and the tech industry for the past ten years hasn't really come out with anything proving that they have anything left to offer

melissaduvant.bsky.social•18 days ago

yup - there's cool, neat, profitable things, but they're all small markets, low % growth year-on-year, not 20% perpetual growth, billions and billions of profit, and so VCs aren't interesting, because they want a hypergrowth unicorn, even if every attempt at one in the last 20 years has failed

voskat5.bsky.social•18 days ago

this is backed up by every new version of any OS in the past 10 years… all filled with new “features” that nobody wants and nobody asked for.

blind panic of obsoletion

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

the one new feature my machines have gotten in the past decade that has actually improved my life in any meaningful way is the ability to select and copy text from images. everything else is bullshit

voskat5.bsky.social•18 days ago

that, and that thing on the iphone where it automatically recognises a code in your text messages and enters it into your form.

apart from that: look how many people are begging for DOWNgrades these days

jacobcaulfield.bsky.social•18 days ago

I love how brand new +$700 GPUs struggle to run games at 60 fps high settings because the powers that be have suddenly decided raster based graphics aren't good enough so everything needs to be ray traced with frame generation now. Things really are better here in the future

porkrocket.bsky.social•18 days ago

We need to kill the Internet of Things.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

thats been a dead meme for a while now i think. that was like 10 grift cycles ago

porkrocket.bsky.social•18 days ago

#neverforget

dashwallkick.bsky.social•18 days ago

Which is why you have Thiel and Musk going "what if we just WERE the government?" and literally no one but them wants that

mongrel.bsky.social•18 days ago

It would be bleakly funny if it turns out it's like the dealer argument, where getting a customer killed now and then is supposedly good for business because it demonstrates you're peddling Strong Stuff.

lorenziniforce.bsky.social•18 days ago

There's definitely a small subsegment of people who are true believers but yeah

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

oh there 100% are people who believe that stuff, i just don't think people like sam altman for example are among that cohort

lorenziniforce.bsky.social•18 days ago

mhm

mistergingerninja.bsky.social•18 days ago

If the new Behind the Bastards is to be believed, they mostly use it to try to impress underage girls at dinner parties.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

men used to build houses and die in wars to impress girls. now they just lie about the computer

vivicorpceo.bsky.social•18 days ago

Yeah it's just marketing. I mean I think they believe in it more than they should anyways, but not that much

fleezlow.bsky.social•18 days ago

I think AI as it is came from true believers (like that guy who was convinced his chat bot became sentient) and Open AI, who seemed like real raisin cakes, but you're def right that people like Sam Altman, who is dishonest as hell, used the true believers to hype up AI

fleezlow.bsky.social•18 days ago

I think they're all ture believers now, because they've poured so much money in it. I think it's a bubble now, so the smart money is only slightly smarter that the dingbats who believe in Roko's Magic Basilisk.

fleezlow.bsky.social•18 days ago

I keep going back to how they had geared up all these mining centers for crypto, and then crypto crashed, and while I don't know that it was a specific plan, but they needed to monetize all this extra processing capacity, which is why I think "AI" is "we dump data we own into data centers we own"

fleezlow.bsky.social•18 days ago

Or data we steal, as the case may be

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

yeah im a believer in this explanation as well. i don't think it's the only reason AI became the New Thing but i think it's a big reason that even a lot of critics of the tech industry seem to overlook lmao. "we got all these GPUs. now what?"

fleezlow.bsky.social•18 days ago

Like they are absolutely flummoxed by the Chinese AI instance that's doing the same thing without gobbling up insane amounts of processing power. If you're not trying to (or pretending to) create a living computer brain, maybe you don't need massive processing arrays

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

imagine like, an arms dealer who keeps going on and on about how scary and powerful the weapons they sell are. they are so scared of these weapons that you can have for the right price please do not buy them. and then this is the weapon

xx-invadr-ellie-xx.bsky.social•18 days ago

This is true but also I believe out of all of them, elon is the one who is actually dumb enough to truly believe in it.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

yeah

acidhydra.bsky.social•18 days ago

that looks like a human-built plasma pistol

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

it's barely even a regular pistol

happymemeco.bsky.social•18 days ago

There's something with how Effective Altruistim got cozy with AI and worries about it. It's more akin to mob protection to me.

"I'm making this thing that might be evil. You should pay me to make sure it doesn't do bad stuff. That's called Altruism because it involves everyone or something."

bluesuedepuma.bsky.social•18 days ago

I’d feel safer with a broken antenna and a .22 round

atriflemiffed.bsky.social•18 days ago

To be fair I would be pretty scared if I were using a Zip

tgirl.fail•18 days ago

Finally, the gun that killed that ceo revealed.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

i know you're joking but in case you were curious they actually did reveal the gun. it was a 3D printed glock
https://bsky.app/profile/jtp.bsky.social/post/3lcvjcei5pk2k

atriflemiffed.bsky.social•18 days ago

The gun the cops very obviously planted on him in a clumsy attempt to hide that they found the guy using illegal facial recognition software installed in McDonald's cash registers yes. Assuming he even did it which we'll never know because lol presumption of guilt.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

oh yeah true

tgirl.fail•18 days ago

I remember, just liked how it seemed every gun, but a glock was seemingly in the running.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

oh yeah i just noticed you replied to the post i linked lmao. and I KNOW RIGHT?! i know it's a weird hangup for me to have but that was actually getting under my skin for some reason. people were suggesting the dumbest most wild bullshit even tho you could tell in the video that the gun was square

tgirl.fail•18 days ago

It was really funny to see media and random people assume it was a ww2 relic, welrod, or a veterinary gun, B&T vp9, instead of like an example of the most common handgun or a clone of it.

generalgoodsman.bsky.social•18 days ago

just learned about this nightmare hand gun

thechenry.bsky.social•18 days ago

what's more embarrassing? Getting shot by a zip gun, or owning a zip gun?

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

if someone pulled a zippy on me they wouldn't even need to pull the trigger cuz i'd die of laughter on the spot

thechenry.bsky.social•17 days ago

they'd probably have to beat me to death with it cos it would just jam

thesheepmafia.bsky.social•18 days ago

Laugh all you want but that gun kicked ass in Timesplitters.

minisculewhoop.bsky.social•18 days ago

I don't know man

xdresstera.bsky.social•18 days ago

I feel like I've seen that in games or movies or something. Just casually walking them through all the handguns, rifles and explosives then the, "Now THIS one here..." but it's like, actually a BFG or similar.

zuthal.bsky.social•18 days ago

That scene in Men in Black where they are showing the arsenal and the tiny gun is absolutely mental

reft01.bsky.social•18 days ago

The zip22 really is the perfect way to describe AI progress so far holy shit

jazzguineapig.bsky.social•18 days ago

zip gun mentioned everybody drink!

thermitenjoyer.bsky.social•18 days ago

the zip 22 is the imperfect will of god, shunted in its efficacy by the faltering shackles of reality. It will have its day.

smcl.bsky.social•18 days ago

Imagining the state of US homicide stats if all handguns were as effective as the USCA ZiP

smcl.bsky.social•18 days ago

USFA* fuck

bladepuppy.bsky.social•18 days ago

the zip gun is a great representation of being an rpg character with incredibly poor stats
miss, gun jam, gun jam, gun jam, miss, gun jam, miss, gun jam, hit 2 damage, gun jam, damage to self -3 hp, hit critical 5 damage, out of ammo have to reload

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

also you need to shoot it left handed if you dont want brass ejected into your palm

bladepuppy.bsky.social•18 days ago

thats another accuracy debuff on top of the massive debuff from using it

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

you're honestly better off throwing it than shooting it

zuthal.bsky.social•18 days ago

If you're lucky, the enemy will pick it up and try using it!

astrid-x.bsky.social•18 days ago

This is an apt analogy because AI companies are already involved in the weapons industry. But that isn’t the weapon. These are the weapons. And they’re terrifyingly effective. Downplaying the use-cases of AI for bad actors with access to server farms and weapons is a mistake, AI isn’t just ChatGPT.

jtp.bsky.social•18 days ago

i think they would be killing the exact same people in the exact same amounts with or without whatever bs AI systems they're spending money on. this looks like them just using AI as a justification for killing civilians. "we have algorithms that prove we needed to bomb this hospital"

astrid-x.bsky.social•18 days ago

An AI can autonomously comb through much more footage looking for “threats” than a human can, giving the trigger pullers more targets (and eventually the AI itself will be the trigger puller). But beyond that, AI is also effective for other things. Banal administrative work, data de-anonymization

astrid-x.bsky.social•18 days ago

surveillance and tracking, etc. And it can do all of these things MUCH better and more efficiently than humans can. The danger of AI is that it’s hyper-effective at analyzing patterns and data that humans could never feasibly go through because we either aren’t sensitive enough to see them or the

astrid-x.bsky.social•18 days ago

sheer amount of data to parse is too much for us to handle. Yeah, the video generation sucks, but the image recognition on a well-trained model doesn’t, the image reconstruction doesn’t, the metadata analysis doesn’t. That’s where the danger lies

sharkmode.bsky.social•18 days ago

Right like I’m not gonna go “I made Mal A.I. It’s fucking DOGshit, it can’t do anything. Please give me a quadrillion dollars”

scholarlycowboy.bsky.social•18 days ago

Absolutely, most fear mongering with ai beyond: this will take your job and do it 65% worse, this will use all your drinking water, and this will crash your 401k is just advertising.

tuna.pookie.gay•18 days ago

It’s cult dynamics 101. The people at the top know it’s absolute schlock, but it’s useful for coercing rubes who think they’re smart. “[Buy my classes/work for free/promote my shit] or you’ll go to computer hell forever.”

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