I mean if the goal is winning elections, bloodless partisan media that doesn't frag the center-left for attention-economy points is probably better than left media. - ThreadSky

rev-avocado.bsky.social • 97 days ago

I mean if the goal is winning elections, bloodless partisan media that doesn't frag the center-left for attention-economy points is probably better than left media.

Reposted from Adam H Johnson

How do we have 800 of these articles and none contend with the fundamental issue which is rich liberals don’t want to fund left media, they want to fund liberal media which is bloodless and partisan, by definition. GOP courts its extremes, liberals discipline theirs.
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veleda-k.bsky.social•97 days ago

Some of us want a left-wing media so we can keep republicans out of power. Other people want a left-wing media so they can listen to (and make) some real cool podcasts.

airshipchronos.bsky.social•97 days ago

I feel like a lesson of these past couple years is even if we don't have a full on propaganda network, yeah left media needs to be more positive about things.

airshipchronos.bsky.social•97 days ago

A LOT of left media, not even the dumb influencer stuff, but like Current Affairs and shit, are in the business of selling a specific type of leftism, a leftism of disillusionment, even at the points where they're positive.

airshipchronos.bsky.social•97 days ago

And it's their right to do so, but also damn it it's so damning of *us* that we couldn't really big pushes singing the victories of the CTC or the NRLB or Lina Khan.

airshipchronos.bsky.social•97 days ago

Again liberal and left media need not be propagandists, but they do need to, at least sometimes, support a constructive vision.

dabenner.bsky.social•97 days ago

Another factor here is left media as practiced by that guy is unbearably tedious. The two parties are different; their media consumption habits reflects this.

greenbirds.bsky.social•97 days ago

Ezra and Chris are both very nice!

siebznet.bsky.social•97 days ago

Yes

figgityfigs.bsky.social•97 days ago

Plus like the fundamental criticism here is from a left podcast host saying the problem with rich libs is that they’re not paying him enough money.

foghorn453.bsky.social•97 days ago

I never thought I’d see the day where “Dems would win more elections if they adopted all of my preferred policy positions” was the more reasonable option

walmsley.bsky.social•97 days ago

and, as a guy on the liberal end of things, that involves left-populist messaging sometimes. "technocratic land use reform" moves less votes than "ban price gouging for rent", even if I think the former is more effective

walmsley.bsky.social•97 days ago

I've been thinking about this, and I think the core difference is not that the right courts its radicals so much as that when the right disavows its radicals, they trust that the disavowal is a lie. creating that dynamic on the left requires work from both the center and far left.

geminidrgn.bsky.social•96 days ago

The right disavows the most visibly disturbing elements of its radicals but doesn’t go full bore dumping on all of their priorities

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