“A mere 57 oil, gas, coal and cement producers are directly linked to 80% of the world’s global fossil CO2 emissions since the 2016 Paris climate agreement”
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If you could magically enforce this, there would be an immediate economic depression, there would be massive riots, probably several regime changes. People would be pissed about expensive heating costs, some people would freeze to death. Gas prices would explode.
People love to blame capitalism, companies and systems because it means they don't have to blame themselves and their fellow citizens. You shift blame from the 1 billion+ ICE car owners etc. to just 57 companies!
So insightful. We need to regulate these companies, starting with the biggest producers and work our way down. And add some heavy duty taxation if they do not comply quickly enough.
And don't forget @elonjet.net tons and tons of CO2 released so that he can fly somewhere every other day. And then they will try to tell you it's really from all the charcoal fires coming out of mud huts in India or some goddammed thing like that. People need to wake up!
Trump and Elon will soon cause so much destruction for our climate and move far from the polluted places far from the poison they created, Typical Billionaires...
The Chinese goal for 50% electric new cars was 2035.
They will have 50% new cars this year.
Also, consider that manufacturers picked China to avoid pollution regulations for products we then purchased. It is still I on the US consumer. They got the pollution and we got lower prices. Still us.
Conservatives keep arguing about people profiteering from climate crisis regulations…and have no fucking clue that oil companies are literally writing legislation to line their pockets.
The 'rise of Asia' was evident a decade ago when this report had it's last big PR push, I know because I personally ran down the ownership status of those "100 companies" that were responsible for 70% of emissions. Framing it is something that has just happened is disingenuous.
So do these ultra wealthy people ever stop to think that they are damaging this earth, the only place to live, for their own grandchildren? All the money in the world can’t buy clean water and air. You have to prevent the problems by not creating them in the first place.
Yeah…sorry…not understanding the push on “personal responsibility” when oil companies are literally writing the policies. Trump chose an oil executive for his energy security. How do you think that’s gonna go? Gonna give us more CHOICES? Gonna make renewables more accessible? Gas cost less?
Yes. Human beings are the literal worst. I’m not arguing that.
Why is it all or nothing with this? Personally I can do things to help the environment. Yes. Globally we can make significant change through legislation. That can’t happen when the oil companies literally write the legislation.
Did the thought ever cross your mind that my post may have been for people who see themselves as victims instead of participants in their victimization -- without ever realizing it?
And they are NOT completely powerless?
IF you just want to argue, I'm an Irishman with plenty of time.
When did democracy and Capitalism abolish personal responsibility?
Who is giving them the money = power to do that?
Who is electing the corrupt politicians they own?
Could it be "We The People"?
I blame voters and consumers for EVERYTHING.
Including myself.
🙄Nobody abolished personal responsibility. Downgraded Public Liberal Art Ed; abysmal Newspaper readership; corporate consolidation of MSM promoting Republican Alternative Facts; flagrant GOP organized criminals; a helluva lot to resist.
These organizations are homeostatic: they wish to survive, and our economics offer perverse incentives to push them to also grow and strangle, like cancers.
But we also maintain these organizations by our purchases and choices. Your wallet, social media, and the ballot box are the tools of change.
Drive less or use less single-use plastics? Fossil fuel companies have a bit less profit. Eat more plants, less meat? Big ag reallocates farms to growing food, rather than growing the food for our food, saving a whole lot of space and water.
The fact our corrupt system even allows billionaires is the problem. The progressive and estate taxes were written to prevent Plutocracy
Corporations used to be required to provide evidence of public need to get a time limited charter.
It was called "Regulated Capitalism", NOT "Tyrannical Communism"
Trump’s foreign policy seems to be driven by climate migration. Musk wants to escape to Mars. Instead, why don’t we put our efforts into preservation, so we don’t have to move.
And many of these companies own shares in road side gas complexes all over the world that are registered in off shore trusts. They get richer off infrastructure exploitation, given subsidies to build and allowed to evade tax.
I disagree that we lack viable alternative options. Yes, they cost money but they are competitive. I have solar panels and an electric car, this has reduced my usage while improving the experience.
So, if we can know this, we can take action, right? Please tell me we have SOME balls to do something?? Can we put a woman in charge? We are much better at upholding accountability.
National scandal: American Big Oil and Big Industry companies have wantonly increased their pollution of our environment at a time when severe weather is causing extensive damage across our country with hurricanes, floods, and fires. Meanwhile much of congress is on the take.
This report says this as if it is some profound insight. All this says is that there is consolidation in corporate oil and gas. But there are billions of end users so you couldn't shut them down and accomplish anything. We would just have to buy and use oil and gas from many smaller sources.
People who think consumers are the ones to blame should find out how much money and effort those companies have spent to suppress the development and use of alternative energy sources and building materials that could cut into their profits.
Lots of people are buying solar panels as the cost has come down and with some subsidies. Even up here at the 49th parallel. Also, the state of WA has a pretty decent amount of wind energy, but I suppose now we'll be tearing it all down to save the National Bird or something???
What we needed was a push for alternatives fifty years ago. Instead, the constant push was to get people to buy and use fossil fuels, including in the way cities were designed to make it difficult to get around with a car.
Fossil fuel co.s should pour $billions into green energy R&D, halt methane flares, clean up pipeline leaks/oil spills, cap orphaned and zombie wells. Instead, they pour $$ into PACs to elect a climate change denier who will deregulate fossil fuels and hand them federal land leases dirt cheap
Most people live within 5 km of a grocery store. You could walk or bike there instead of driving.
People can also choose where to live. If rent/mortgage is $3,000 close to work, but $2,000 in suburbs, choose the one near work. Because after car + gas cost you aren't ahead.
People also have choice in things like the color of curtains they put on their windows, but how many people can choose where those windows were placed or how big they are?
Infrastructure matters, and only people with influence over the design of infrastructure have the real choices.
Not really. If people start making deliberate choices about where they live, how they commute, where they shop, and only buying what they really need, people making decisions about infrastructure will have to adapt and make different choices. People have power. Most just choose not to exercise it.
That's what voting or participation in policy is for. Show up to a town meeting, you might be able to influence new energy standards like where windows can be placed, so new constructions have a bit of your stamp on it.
Mainly because for 50 years the fossil fuel industry poured a constant stream of money into lobbying and advertising to convince people that climate change was not a problem, despite the fact their own researchers told them it was over 50 years ago. They could have transitioned to green energy.
Where would we be now if oil companies had not actively suppressed the development of green energy alternatives and consistently lied about the harm of CO2 emissions for more than the past 50 years?
I don't know, but the top.. uh "contributors" would necessarily still be them? This is the idiocy.
Unless you are trying to imply that without their lobbying, crazy sci-fi technology would have been invented, most people would have given a damn, and emissions would be a tenth of what they are today.
People don’t need 6,000 sf homes. People don’t need trucks that get 12 miles to the gallon. Peopke don’t need lawns and pools in deserts. People don’t need single use plastic everything. We all have choices.
but please keep preaching to average people how we have to change our way of life to fight climate change. we could do everything right and 57 companies will erase all of our progress. oil and coal companies have known about these dangers since the 50's and 60's, they did their own studies lol
If these companies were shut down and the capacity removed, average people would blame their governments for the shortages and being unable to drive their cars or heat their homes
they knew the risks and dangers of this roughly 3 decades before I was even born. I don't need to change my way of life because I'm stuck in a system they created. yes people would be pissed, because the entire civilization is designed to be mainly powered off of those two things...
You are blaming these companies while asserting the right to be pissed about higher gas prices. But you realize being pissed about higher gas prices is what prevents politicians from just banning oil and gas production/imports right?
They always will. Cars are the climate anchors around our necks. We can't all have electric ones and be better off; just aren't enough resources for that.
While this technology does identify where the emissions are coming from, the only scalable technology we have for capturing & monetizing methane is Bitcoin mining!
But if it’s not preventable, we can’t let canards about Bitcoin mining stop us from employing it when it might be our only hope for mitigating climate change.
Many economists think that climate change (+4C) is going to cause a 7% drop in GDP over 100 years relative to no climate change over the same period, which is annualized to lower than the uncertainty in the measurement of GDP YOY,
so they basically convinced themselves CC is just hysteria,
"Chinese state coal production accounts for 14% of historic global C02, the biggest share by far in the database. This is more than double the proportion of the former Soviet Union, which is in second place, and more than three times higher than that of Saudi Aramco, which is in third"
It's a little bit frustrating that they don't say in the article if the calculated emissions of the oil and coal companies count the burning of the fuel or just the production of it.
Residential users account directly for <3% of the sales, including gas for cars.
Indirectly, they account for far more, but we'd have to stop buying anything to dent that as there's nothing that doesn't rely on some oil & gas in production or distribution. Consumers don't have a real option.
so is your position that 97% is thrown into a pit? all 100% is used as an energy source by our collective society. i promise you ppm doesn't care why we burn the fuel or who benefits. we need to completely redo our energy system and that will require personal sacrifice from every human on earth
Producing cement involves driving the CO2 out of limestone by heating it with gas or oil in a large rotary kiln. Its one industry that is very hard to eliminate CO2 emissions. 60% of all cement is sold to the Government for roads schools and hospitals. Cement is what makes concrete hard.
Old cement kilns were very dirty dusty and used lots of high sulfur coal. A new plant will return its investment to build in 7 to 10 years. Thats too slow for US investors so Germany, Switzerland, France and Mexico bought up most all plants. Then they consolidated to bring down avg labor costs.
That's all a hoax.
There's no proof of that.
Children are having sex changes at school.
They're eating the dogs...
There is no global warming.
There's more...
MBM
This is fixable, or at least we can drastically slow this process. Someone just needs to step up and do something about it. But that’s the sad part. Nobody will as long as money is involved.
How about a renewal energy infrastructure that creates low energy prices all around? Creating cheaper bills to power and heat your home, cheaper bills to operate your vehicle? Cheaper bills to operate industry. Less pollution and climate change. Being stuck in the old way is not always the answer.
These 57 companies sell the oil, gas and cement to you and billions of people like you right? They don't just throw it in a pit. Closing these 57 companies is not a magic fix, its just a path to oil, gas and cement shortages, which is not a price ppl are willing to bear to lower CO2
Gas prices would spike an unbelievable amount. And there was so much complaining when gas prices went up and it cause people to vote for Trump. Regular people are not willing to bear the costs to lower CO2 production.
@colonialoneship.bsky.social - succinctly points out the box canyon we are in. And not stated but perhaps implied is that the folks who make money producing those high carbon intensity items aren't inclined to stop producing them either.
President Carter
Was an innovator, he put Solar panels on the White House during his administration.. he knew the dangers we would face .. another great American that will be missed
If you take a look at David Koch’s 1980 libertarian VP platform, you’ll see a blueprint for project 2025.
In 2010 SCOTUS made the Koch wet dream become reality with Citizens United.
Fascism is here because of the Koch Machine.
So much stupid in one document. This reads like what a college freshman would write if there was an essay requirement to join the Young Republican club.
This is not a money laundry scheme this is power grab operation. The only current salvation for the US is for the military to take control and start judging this people for treason.
What seems ironic to me is that these media folks, and I think you know who I'm talking about, all say that Free Speech is so great in USA, yet it's controlled by the oligarchs who are themselves now controlling the very government itself. Just like RUSSIA! Perhaps we need another revolution too?
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rationing if this capacity was taken down??
They will have 50% new cars this year.
Also, consider that manufacturers picked China to avoid pollution regulations for products we then purchased. It is still I on the US consumer. They got the pollution and we got lower prices. Still us.
Most people see the money pressure and don't fall for the bs any more
The problem is "us" not "them".
Blaming drug dealers for junkies just doesn't work.
NOBODY said "YOU" are personally responsible. I said "WE" are personally responsible. As in human species.
BTW, any chance production of your device and the electricity used to yap at me consumed any carbon?
Ya know, like Personal Carbon?
Why is it all or nothing with this? Personally I can do things to help the environment. Yes. Globally we can make significant change through legislation. That can’t happen when the oil companies literally write the legislation.
And they are NOT completely powerless?
IF you just want to argue, I'm an Irishman with plenty of time.
Who is giving them the money = power to do that?
Who is electing the corrupt politicians they own?
Could it be "We The People"?
I blame voters and consumers for EVERYTHING.
Including myself.
But we also maintain these organizations by our purchases and choices. Your wallet, social media, and the ballot box are the tools of change.
Majority rule don't work in mental institutions.
It's 100% the billionaires. Attempts to blame anyone else is dangerous disinformation.
Corporations used to be required to provide evidence of public need to get a time limited charter.
It was called "Regulated Capitalism", NOT "Tyrannical Communism"
An important archive to have, Judd.
That won't be public information after 9 days from now.
There is FAR too much wealth driving the production of carbon emissions to EVER see a material decrease at any future point in humanity.
Deplorable!!!
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/we-sign-on-to-uphold-the-paris-agreement
We're mad at somebody who has a bigger car while coal plants run non stop. Get next day delivery of a phone case from california on a jumbo jet...
Do what you can.
Reagan had them removed.
Not everyone has a choice but lots of people do have a choice and continue using fossil fuels and eating meat.
What other choices have we ever had?
Most people live within 5 km of a grocery store. You could walk or bike there instead of driving.
People can also choose where to live. If rent/mortgage is $3,000 close to work, but $2,000 in suburbs, choose the one near work. Because after car + gas cost you aren't ahead.
Infrastructure matters, and only people with influence over the design of infrastructure have the real choices.
But not just for the fact that.. other people purchase their products and use them?
Not everyone has a choice but lots of people do have a choice and continue using fossil fuels and eating meat.
Unless you are trying to imply that without their lobbying, crazy sci-fi technology would have been invented, most people would have given a damn, and emissions would be a tenth of what they are today.
If it's a short trip, walk or ride a bike. Take trains and buses, carpool when you can.
Eat less meat, more plants. Buy local or in season, don't support monopolies or oligopolies when you can help it.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-edges-biden-on-gas-prices-174049744.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFc3u-LaidOQ6p8zUTs9OCWC9SsCFR0b8da5ziGLn_n5pX164rLclde5SWeP6TSUN1VrorOxammjPtNeUpQq_BAR_VY_pXia5rWvW71xeUxwYK-skjcxuwq_qjm8HwCSJq_ZTOt5MKc7-Q_0T_vWk52VWD8YR91fgiwExe4ptUiY
The oil companies do not burn their own product.
https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/jpl/methane-super-emitters-mapped-by-nasas-new-earth-space-mission/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-edges-biden-on-gas-prices-174049744.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFc3u-LaidOQ6p8zUTs9OCWC9SsCFR0b8da5ziGLn_n5pX164rLclde5SWeP6TSUN1VrorOxammjPtNeUpQq_BAR_VY_pXia5rWvW71xeUxwYK-skjcxuwq_qjm8HwCSJq_ZTOt5MKc7-Q_0T_vWk52VWD8YR91fgiwExe4ptUiY
I don't think building data centers in the middle of Turkmenistan is the solution to climate change.
We can even use those profits to fund more climate change effort elsewhere on top of mitigating methane
But if it’s not preventable, we can’t let canards about Bitcoin mining stop us from employing it when it might be our only hope for mitigating climate change.
It's that there's nowhere near this to use the energy on, when you spend the money to burn it
But if you spend money to burn it to turn it into energy and you use that energy on mining Bitcoin, you make more money than it cost to burn
so they basically convinced themselves CC is just hysteria,
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140988321004898
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-edges-biden-on-gas-prices-174049744.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFc3u-LaidOQ6p8zUTs9OCWC9SsCFR0b8da5ziGLn_n5pX164rLclde5SWeP6TSUN1VrorOxammjPtNeUpQq_BAR_VY_pXia5rWvW71xeUxwYK-skjcxuwq_qjm8HwCSJq_ZTOt5MKc7-Q_0T_vWk52VWD8YR91fgiwExe4ptUiY
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/co2-emissions-by-country
Indirectly, they account for far more, but we'd have to stop buying anything to dent that as there's nothing that doesn't rely on some oil & gas in production or distribution. Consumers don't have a real option.
There's no proof of that.
Children are having sex changes at school.
They're eating the dogs...
There is no global warming.
There's more...
MBM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-edges-biden-on-gas-prices-174049744.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFc3u-LaidOQ6p8zUTs9OCWC9SsCFR0b8da5ziGLn_n5pX164rLclde5SWeP6TSUN1VrorOxammjPtNeUpQq_BAR_VY_pXia5rWvW71xeUxwYK-skjcxuwq_qjm8HwCSJq_ZTOt5MKc7-Q_0T_vWk52VWD8YR91fgiwExe4ptUiY
… we can no longer deny that.. climate change is real..
Was an innovator, he put Solar panels on the White House during his administration.. he knew the dangers we would face .. another great American that will be missed
In 2010 SCOTUS made the Koch wet dream become reality with Citizens United.
Fascism is here because of the Koch Machine.
Spoiler alert: the bears win!