It’s clear that Elon’s crack team of children ARE IN FACT CHILDREN, because only someone who had never really worked with data before would see a table like this and not think “I must be missing something about how this works”
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If there's really 10+ million people "over 120" who are supposedly still getting checks printed it should be pretty trivially easy to find examples but then again the press will never actually push on them to back these claims up
Genuine question... how would you explain this to someone who has no experience with this kind of data? I want to be well informed, but I don't know how this works.
I’ve never worked with this kind of data but my first thought is that “the death field set to FALSE” does not mean what Elon thinks it means, and these are not checks being sent out. Maybe it just means verified deaths or something, and they actually halt checks when someone isn’t proven *alive*
I am looking for the same answer. I read the 2023 IG report and understand the numbers of people receiving SS who are deceased is MUCH, MUCH lower, but I don't really know how to explain why this is wrong on it's face. (Except, where are the people under 40?)
What reading the IG report also told me is:
1)Data practices change over time which leads to bad or messy data that can't be easily analyzed through simple formulas.
2) The report provided clear recommendations that could have been used as a roadmap for DOGE to actually solve a problem.
I've been in software engineering for nearly 10 years. I've been burned so often by my own hubris that I'm *very* cautious when I don't understand a thing. My assumption until I can prove otherwise is that I'm missing something — I no longer double down on hubris. Then again, I'm not a billionaire.
That and right wing media has been telling them preposterous shit is happening for decades. Their bullshit detectors are completely nonfunctional at this point.
Or they do know and are just manufacturing consent for social security cuts. The media will gleefully report about all the alleged fraud and ignore real people being harmed.
genuine question: what table is this from, and what does it represent? I'm gonna need the facts to back up some claims from MAGA devotees in my family.
As others have noted, this was the subject of SSA Inspector General reports in 2015 and 2023.
These is a database of people who have SSNs not people who are receiving SS.
There is an issue with some people using the SSN of presumably dead people for employment purposes.
It also has the implicit assumption that everyone who has touched this data previously is too stupid to question why 1.3M 150-year-olds are still getting checks. We’re not even reaching Chesterton’s Fence levels of curiosity.
you don't even need to work with data. I'm no data expert but it's extremely obvious to me that the experts working in this area and this department are not overlooking these extremely obvious errors.
My professional dream is to create a software system so good and well documented that even the worlds stupidest and most inexperienced nazis can't misunderstand it.
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They might as well just lay out their “Jump To Conclusions” mat.
I worked in processing industry at that time and all the older programs had to be revamped.
1)Data practices change over time which leads to bad or messy data that can't be easily analyzed through simple formulas.
2) The report provided clear recommendations that could have been used as a roadmap for DOGE to actually solve a problem.
How is this happening 🫤🤦🏼♀️
A handful of people collecting trivial sums of money through historical quirks is a transparently fake problem.
Admin probably just stop the payment/archive the account rather than mark the account as belonging to a dead person
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhLoqSze02s
https://www.404media.co/dei-waste-gov-doge-list-behind-password/
These is a database of people who have SSNs not people who are receiving SS.
There is an issue with some people using the SSN of presumably dead people for employment purposes.
https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf#page7