We are going to survive, but America will have changed. It’s our third act, middle of our book. Full of villains and monsters and a few hero’s. Let’s be hero’s.
It has. While I’m not thrilled majority decided to take this route I am fully aware what’s coming is survivable. While I know I’ll be okay, many people are not gonna handle this environment well.
Fascism didn’t exist when Grant was alive. The only reason we exist after it was invested is because our grandparents gave their lives to ensure it never came to America. I hope they haunt their descendants who voted for this.
Yeah, I was thinking that DJT and USG belong in the same category. Big difference--USG was an honest man and wrote his memoirs while dying to ensure his family was not destitute after his demise. The USG is less memorable than Hoover's, which had the Great Depression as a historical marker.
I find reading history right now really does help with that hope piece of this nightmare.
Reminding me of who had it worse, to also remind me that the horror didn’t last infinitely-
And to remind myself it required some level of fight by masses each time ✌️
I really don’t think there is any real equivalency. History does tend to repeat itself and at this point not for the better. I am reading Doris Kearns Godwin’s An Unfinished Love Story about the 1960’s. I think here is more equivalency and what I am seeing is a return to the dark old days.
They should have said "since you tried to secede, we've gone over this whole 'electoral college' setup, and we're gonna go straight up with population. Sorry, you don't get to keep your 'black people get to boost our electors but can't vote' crap."
Yeah a lot of people don’t seem to remember his Presidency as basically him and a bunch of other drunk dudes blatantly stealing and being incompetent. Big difference though here is that Trump has access to nukes.
Yes, but then we had Lincoln, Seward, Stanton, Grant & Sherman. And the anti-slavery forces in Congress. Plus Grant & Sherman (among others) leading the fight. Now?
That's such a good read, and the circumstances surrounding its inception and publication are fascinating, too. Mark Twain was *begging* Grant to publish them.
How many, many times did I say this about reconstruction. Grant was something else. And, I'll always contend, when Reconstruction went craaay-z, it set this all in place. No healing, no read reconstruction. Here we are, an outgrowth of that.
Is this the one that Mark Twain published?
I read Ron Chernow's book on Ulysses S. Grant and it was fascinating. I finished 500 pages in 3 days which covered the civil war.
The second half took a little longer covering his presidency and reconstruction.
All fascinating though...
Not to be Debbie Downer…but - we didn’t have the issues from external forces (Russia/China) like we do today. Europe basically sat the war out without choosing sides. Also - no nukes in 1866.
Thank you for the reassurance...it's truly needed...I keep thinking it's just for years...but the effects from those four years will last for years... maybe decades.
Read David Corn's American Psychosis to get the full spectrum of lunacy we've experienced throughout our history. I have no idea if it will confer a sense of relief or sheer terror.
Hate to be a Debbie Downer, but 620,000 - 750,000 people didn't survive the Civil War, or 2% of the population. In today's bodies that would be about 6.9 million people. Plus, you have to consider in the Civil War, they only had muskets, cannonballs, and bayonets.
I was helping my son with a world history class (which I'm sure at some point I took in high school but is infinitely more interesting now). To read about history repeating itself over & over & over is really mind boggling
Exactly right! It only took about 130 years to circle back there. They say history repeats itself. Maybe the Hoover years are coming up and they’ll be a Roosevelt out there. A Teddy or FDR type - doesn’t matter, either will work!
But they didn't have Social Media, instant communication across many platforms and all the expertise in Marketing (lying) that politicians have today. Hell, they didn't even have radio!
It’s been my thoughts lately that our forefathers must have felt like we do now at many points in their lives during the civil war. I believe we will persevere and come out the other side for the better. The glass always taste better half full.
I recommend the podcast Totalus Rankium: American Presidents for the same reason: it has always been like this. But that doesn’t mean sit back and wait, either.
Recently read The Bully Pulpit about Roosevelt and the muckrakers at the turn of the 20th Century and made me feel better for the same reason. Every generation has to fight for democracy and opportunity. And every generation forgets.
Please let me know. If you remember to. If you want to know her story, I can send you my script lol She was a wild lady! Sarah didn't tame the Wild West. She kicked its ass. 😎
I still think reconstruction was a complete and utter failure example in musk land before the election the number of far right people from the Deep South advocating for secession was obscene
Well Reconstruction was never completed. It was upended. Those fuckers always want out.They'd rather live separately in a sovereign land than live peacefully under a D admin. Bonkers. But also, I'd rather live separately in a sovereign land then live in their hellscape of autocracy. Sooooo...
A deep bench. Believe it, we do. Among them are California Gov. Gavin Newsom; Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker; Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear; Maryland Gov. Wes Moore; Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer; North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper; Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro; Georgia Sen. Raphael ..
Warnock; New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker; Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman; California Rep. Ro Khanna; and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. And there are others. This list is from an ABC News story. I'm sure there are even more. Deep bench. I like our chances.
There are many things that need to be done. We have entered a conservative time where people think the 1950's were a good time socially and social control was expected.
Today, even the Catholic seminaries are filled with young men who parade around in cassockd and liturgical garb, waiting to tell their "flocks" how to think and behave.
We need a Renaissance of new ideas, with new thinking and new people, honoring American intellect.
That takes time to grow again from the ashes of the dark time we are in. We are entering a time of great struggle and suffering, but that is where there is rebirth. It will take generations.
Never when a Party held a “Superfecta”. Sorry, it’s just reality that this is not going to end well. Especially when the base of said Party is all in on the Doomsday ending.
I was amazed at his writing skills, particularly as he was in such pain from throat (I believe) cancer. The first time I read it, I wasn’t sure what I’d find.
It is the height of lunacy that Joe Biden and the military would actually stand by, normalize Trump, and let a traitor and insurrectionist take over our country. Jack Smith has the proof that Trump is a traitor and insurrectionist, and our generals should throw Trump in the brig. Hello Prez Vance.
Collapse driven by climate change / overshoot is the different factor. It changes the future prognosis entirely, as well as explaining what's driving a lot of what's happening now.
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Reminding me of who had it worse, to also remind me that the horror didn’t last infinitely-
And to remind myself it required some level of fight by masses each time ✌️
You guys need to chill 🤣
You guys made all sorts of crazy claims about Trump in 2016. None of that came true. Why would 2024 be different?
You’ve spent this whole time running away from imaginary Nazis. It’s been incredibly bizarre!
They should have said "since you tried to secede, we've gone over this whole 'electoral college' setup, and we're gonna go straight up with population. Sorry, you don't get to keep your 'black people get to boost our electors but can't vote' crap."
I read Ron Chernow's book on Ulysses S. Grant and it was fascinating. I finished 500 pages in 3 days which covered the civil war.
The second half took a little longer covering his presidency and reconstruction.
All fascinating though...
2. You are correct!
We’re not in a good place
And will a lot of blood be shed
Black AF History
The Un-Whitewashed story of America
Fuck The 2%
We need a Renaissance of new ideas, with new thinking and new people, honoring American intellect.
Doc on prohibition. Holy corrupt...
Lots of Black, Brown, and Queer folk will not.
Oh, yeah, I remember.
"Acceptable losses"